If I am pursuing for the same reason as Buddhism and you don’t know why I am pursuing overcoming delusion, then why pursue what we don’t know the reason for?
Really? I don’t mean suppress the urge for a while. You can pull up a weed in your garden, but another will come along soon enough.
Anyway, do you think it’s a positive thing to not try to overcome delusion? Do you think we should be content in our delusions? If that’s your attitude, fine. But I don’t believe that’s your attitude. People don’t feel satisfied, they don’t accept the way things are. They don’t like the views of other people. They think others are deluded, and they see that as a problem.
Anon.
The reason I went through all of that is to circle back to where I started, yet was not articulating well from me to you.
You are still looking at a separation, and that’s fine.
But let me flip a perspective in hopes that you’ll see why Buddhism doesn’t fit this bill I’m describing.
It depends on how to understand what you’re saying, Jayson. In just being, there is no delusion. In desiring to be deluded, there is plenty of delusion. Even in desiring positive mental states, there is plenty of delusion, though according to Buddhism some kinds of delusion are more useful than others, in that they help create the causes and conditions which make overcoming delusion more likely.
Suzuki Roshi (from a pretty rough, unedited transcript):
