12.10.06.1764
While Dawkins reads his excerpts, which are well written, the real awe is the Q&A afterwords where he pwns questions from students of Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University.
Loading it now… Pwns Liberty “students”, bet he felt good after that, woooo, haha.
12.10.06.1765
Club, I didn’t mean that as a joke, I’m serious. He really does tackle very serious questions and I would imagine that if someone gave him evidence which he could not refute, he would feel good about that and gladly test it to check its validity.
It’s not hard to qwn Christendom.
I just wish him a good reason-rampage. 
In all seriousness, “he pwns them”. Yes I’m sure he would, I don’t doubt Dawkins is mature.
Really? How so? Dan who believes he astral projects.
12.12.06.1770
Have you watched it yet Club? If so, what did you think?
Club29
It won't do you any good to point out the hypocrisy inherent to the system. Criticizing Christianity is 'freethought', criticizing astral-projection or candle-magic is 'bashing'. It may seem unfair at first, but it's a blessing in disguise. A Christian who takes it all in stride ends up so much more tested and refined than those who are cut loose.
Consider it 'boot camp'. If you want to have the very best beliefs, this is the slogging you have to go through. If you don't like the pressure, there's plenty of other systems and paths out there that hide behind victim culture, where you can believe what you want, free from any and all examination. Some consider that 'washing out'. :slight_smile:
Not too long ago, simials believed the earth was flat, and you were insane if you thought otherwise. What’s the point in pretending that you know the truth, hmm? For many thousands of years, endless billions were “wrong”. Now you humans pretend to be right, just like you always did.
Don’t pretend that you’re the victims. You “Christians” killed countless thousands during your crusades in history, and now you just want us all to accept and forget it. Your religion only got so deeply rooted because in early history it was enforced at the end of a sword, and also, humans had hardly any “scientific knowledge” back then, compared to now.
Response forthcoming.
People who thought the earth was flat were stupid, and I don’t know of any record of a mass of people who believed this.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth
Greeks and Early thinkers. Certainly not stupid folks.
It’s the first idea that comes to mind. I’d imagine Seminoles believed it while others before them found it wasn’t, for the lack of knowledge Seminoles took it as they saw it. But billions? That’s a stretch, I figure he was only joking lol.
Anyhow this argument of people believed the earth was flat in biblical times is a horrible argument if this in anyway refers to Dan’s statement, probably a worse argument than Irreducible Complexity. But yet it’s heard many times.
Yes Satori you are correct, and while I was taking Dan’s statement in his context to say what I said. For if in later biblical times when it refers to the earth it never claims a flatness, in fact many believed it was round, so those who refused in proof were stupid. Sad fact is anyone who doesn’t know something that is true is stupid to it. And we have the right to say that if we have the facts, even if they lived so long ago 
(no Im not calling them stupid).
Nice tid bit.
Agreed.
Yes, people will always struggle against the actual proven i.e. Holocaust disbelievers. But I would label them as misguided in that the guide to show them (science) is a fickle leader to some.
Agreed. Nothing more to add…
12.13.06.1773
Club, world population didn’t make the one billion mark until 1802. Did you mean “millions,” I assume you did, but consider this a moment…
How about a thousand years from now people are discussing a similar topic; instead of the world being flat or round, it’s the belief in a god or not. Certainly, assuming that the population of Atheists and whatnot exceed religious folk in one thousand years, they might find it hard to swallow that once billions of people believed in a deity. They would say, how could they be so stupid back then when the proof was clearly there? They would find the Theist as fascinating as you find a person who once believed the world was flat.
We humans of today will be wrong tomorrow, you- Dan of tomorrow, will be wrong two days from now.
Sage, my remark was made toward Dans, Dan used billions. Of course that many people weren’t alive back then.
Well if were are on the track of assuming, and we’ve missed the evidence that proves God does not exist, however we can ever get to that stage, then yes I don’t see much wrong in critiquing and yes they most likely would. But as you very well know, we can also assume this the other way . And furthermore as I hinted at, however we ever come to proving that no supernatural being exist will be a very intellectual day, for even now I don’t see how that’s possible.