Kriswest
June 17, 2016, 1:07am
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A bit too much acid and scifi
CelineK
June 19, 2016, 6:37pm
22
sorry, you don’t see the big picture… how can you endorse the right to financial security when 90% of world populations will (in less than a generation from now) be depending on “government basic income/pay checks” to survive because there wont be any jobs?
I see a major war around the corner – do you? what right to financial security?
Wouldn’t it be better to just get what you need than to have to work for it? I mean, a lot of jobs are completely unnecessary, and it’s like you could send all those people home and just pay them anyway. Then those people’s lives would be better.
Kriswest
June 22, 2016, 7:49pm
24
I am trying to figure out where I endorsed the right to financial security.
One day, we are going to be living in the woods, passing around saltines as gold, with minutes of the internet rationed out!
CelineK:
this is really saying whatever, in 10 years from now, robotics and even more powerful computers will take over ALL jobs. Or maybe do you mean it is right that only 10% or less will have rights to financial because they were able to save millions/billions (while having destroyed the ecosystem earning their financial security)?
the drawinian mindset that led us there and is getting close to a full fledged state of precariat itself.
No, they wont take over ALL jobs, still need overlords, mechanics and artists.
What starts out as science fiction eventually becomes science fiction reality.
Ultimate Philosophy 1001:
One day, we are going to be living in the woods, passing around saltines as gold, with minutes of the internet rationed out!
No, they’ll shut down the internet and those foolish enough to even try to use the internet or cellular communications for rebel activities they will track down for extermination.
Kriswest:
Dune would be cool.
The spice (oil?) must flow?
Kriswest
June 24, 2016, 11:31pm
32
Did you not read the whole series??? Spice was only part. Must say that the first 5 chapters were hard to get through the first time reading it.
Finland is about to launch an experiment in which a randomly selected group of 2,000–3,000 citizens already on unemployment benefits will begin to receive a monthly basic income of 560 euros (approx. $600). That basic income will replace their existing benefits. The amount is the same as the current guaranteed minimum level of Finnish social security support. The pilot study, running for two years in 2017-2018, aims to assess whether basic income can help reduce poverty, social exclusion, and bureaucracy, while increasing the employment rate.
The Finnish government introduced its legislative bill for the experiment on 25 August. Originally, the scope of the basic income experiment was much more ambitious. Many experts have criticized the government’s experiment for its small sample size and for the setup of the trial, which will be performed within just one experimental condition. This implies that the experiment can provide insights on only one issue, namely whether the removal of the disincentives embedded in social security will encourage those now unemployed to return to the workforce or not.
Still, the world’s largest national basic income experiment represents a big leap towards experimental governance, a transformation that has been given strong emphasis in the current government program of the Finnish state. Additionally, the Finnish trial sets the agenda for the future of universal basic income at large. Its results will be closely followed by governments worldwide. The basic income experiment may thus well lead to the greatest societal transformation of our time.
demoshelsinki.fi/en/2016/08/ … -our-time/
Protesting Bolivian miners on Friday abandoned a roadblock where a day earlier they kidnapped a government deputy minister, who was later found beaten to death.
President Evo Morales called for three days of national mourning and declared Friday a day of “deep pain” for the country.
reuters.com/article/us-boliv … ld+News%29
