Indeed, we are supposed to support ukraine, despite knowing nothing about the geopolitical issues going on, merely because the media is manipulating our emotions.
Fact is, Russia is under constant threat from NATO and NATO doesn’t even have a reason to exist anymore— except to invade other countries in the name of neoliberal globalist corporate-plutocratic hegemony. Russia poses no threat to Europe and just wants to trade some stuff and be left alone.
People forget the role western powers played in ukraine in 2014, setting up a CIA-inspired coup and continuing to push missile systems closer to Russian borders. Instigating fake political riots and installing a western puppet president with direct links to the world economic forum.
If Ukraine didn’t want to be invaded then maybe they shouldn’t have tried to join NATO and bring foreign armies to Russia’s border. Ukraine is very big and very important and full of ethnic Russian people. It isn’t like Putin is just gonna sit back and let the evil western “elites” take control of it.
Putin may be evil too, I don’t know, but at least he’s conducting himself like a rational actor. At least he’s not trying to take over the world. And it’s funny isn’t it, US and NATO are constantly invading so many countries but when Russia does it one time suddenly everyone loses their shit.
The US and NATO countries, acting like they have a moral high ground? Hahahaha. Too funny.
K: nice touch, using insane conspiracy theories to defend Putin… as the Ukraine is a
independent nation, it can join or not join Nato as it wishes…as Poland is part of Nato
and is next to Russia’s border, why didn’t Putin invade Poland? Thus showing it
had nothing to do with Nato… as for Putin being a “Rational Actor” what is he doing
that is Rational? What part of invading another independent country is “Rational?”
there is not a single rational thing about what Putin is doing…
The ‘objective’ if one can be said there is one; is a global-geopolitical balance, the absence of which kicks in axiomatic responses. That both conflicting ‘isms’ have been factored into the equation: the final arbiter is classically out of Das Capital.
In more recent terminology: it is competition missing from a pre-planned economy that promotes production.
Sans the events since the 80’s proves which side is more instrumental, the ideological matrix has to realign to this now ‘fact’
Putin is photographed as genuflecting and crossing himself in the Orthodox fashion, proves feeling his search for a higher ground to adjucate his actions is more than a photi-op.
Like all of the current authoritarian puppets - Putin knows that the new world order (that O’Biden just mentioned) is holding itself together by capturing resources and extorting. Russia has only oil to sell and nukes to threaten with. Putin then uses that resource to extort EU as a part of the over-all new global communist order (as Germany recently realized and is now resisting). He wants the resources that Ukraine has to further strengthen his power over anyone else.
The higher idea is merely to get rid of all thoughts of human rights and democracy. It seems they are making great progress in that regard. Ukraine was in the midst of trying to be a constitutional democratic country - but being seriously corrupted by the globalists (from global communists in both East and West - the ultra-billionairs).
I don’t think it is about the “evil western elites” any more than it is about the evil eastern elites. It is about the evil globalist elites within all nations.
Then you are not paying much attention.
perhaps more rational than O’Biden - but in no way a civilized actor.
obviously not paying attention.
which of the last 4 is the “one time”?
Everyone in a war does that - and nations are always at war - it merely gets hotter or colder.
It isn’t about any of the nations. It is about those holding themselves above all nations - installing puppet “leaders” to rule the nations for them (O’Biden, Trudeau, Putin, Xi Jinping, Merkel, Johnson, Morrison —). I’m thinking the fun is going to start when they finally give nukes to Iran to get rid of Israel (the core of social democracy and human rights).
No nation is fully independent, and Ukraine borders with Russia.
And no it should not be able to join NATO “if it wants”. What about what the people who live in NATO want?
No one has asked me if we should continue to be threatening Russia.
In fact no one is ever asked what NATO gets up to.
Where is democracy and freedom now?
IN the same way that the US would not allow Canada, Cuba, or Mexico to ally itself with a foreign power such as Russia, Russia is simply not going to allow the West to continue to march ever Eastwards. Those are the political realities.
Why NATO was not disbanded 30 years ago was a big mistake. Vested interests kept the organisation going impeding real global peace when we had the chance.
Ukraine has brought this on itself by playing Russia on one side and NATO/EU on the other. This was always going to happen.
Ukraine has banned the media, and several political parties, making it no better than any other dictatorship. What remains is a propaganda machine that has recently been extolling the virtues of Nazi Germany.
It has spend the last 8 years persecuting ethnic Russians in the East of the country, and they have been fighting for their own independence.
Why would you decide to favour “Ukraine” independence over and above the independence of the separatist states?
