Science is only beginning to catch up on what God had man...

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… record in the Bible from ancient times.

A lot of non believers do not believe the Bible is truth and i think the reason is because they do not want to do the research to find out its validy. I believe people are not after truth but they are after further cementing their own beliefs. I know because i have been there. I used to be an atheist myself. Shocker huh? I am amazed at my own transformation. But anyway to cut a long story short God has become a reality to me and only God could have changed me from who i was to who i am now.

I believe the Bible is God Inspired not just by faith but there is a insurmountable amounts of evidence to prove its validy. The Bible never claims to be a text book on science but when it does speak on nature or physics it is absolutely accurate. Here are some scientific facts and principles that were not known until very recently and yet it was in the Bible all along.

Number of stars exceeds a billions
God speaking to Abraham who is the one he would begin to give his teachings to Gen. 13:16 “And I will make your descendants as the dust of the earth; so that if a man could number the dust of the earth, then your descendants also could be numbered.” Genesis 15:5 says the stars cannot be numbered by man. Jeremiah 33:32 explains the stars are beyond numbering. Before the telescope was invented, man was able to number the stars. Hipparchus said in 150 B.C. there are exactly 1,026 stars. 150 years later a Roman named Ptolemy said there are 1,056, Kepler counted 1,006. Since Galileo invented the telescope in 1608, we continued to discover more stars. Up until the last few hundred years until the discovery of the telescope there were only 6,000 stars seen by the naked eye. A modern telescope of 200 inches estimates 100 billion stars in our galaxy alone. And there are not millions but billions of such galaxies. The Biblical scientific insights were far in advance of four modern day science. Today, with our technology and high powered telescopes in space and astronomers estimate that there are 100 billion stars in our galaxy with an additional 20-100 billion galaxies in the universe! Henry Morris says there are at least 10 million, billion, billion stars! See Gen.15:5, Job 22:12; Isaiah 55:9; 1 Corinthians 15:41 and 2 Peter 3:10.
Gen. 22:17 “ I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; Another example of the amount of stars that cannot be counted.

The Earth is Spherical
Isaiah 40:22 tells us the earth is not flat but a round sphere. The prophet states “He (God) sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers.” The Bible had refuted the flat earth theory long before scientists actually disproved it.

Earth is suspended in space
Job 26:7 says the earth is suspended on nothing. Early man thought Atlas, a huge turtle or elephants held up the earth. In the North sky within the millions of stars is a vast expanse of blackness. The Bible was there before the telescope so only God could describe it. Today we know it is gravity that holds the planets and stars in their orbits making them appear to be hung on nothing. He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing. (Job 26:7)

Ocean and Wind currents
Psalm 8:8 mentions the paths of the sea. We read about “the birds of the air, and the fish of’ the sea, all that swim the paths of the sea.” But it wasn’t until the mid nineteenth century when Matthew Fontaine Maury, the “father of oceanography,” published his discovery that the ocean possesses predictable paths or currents. When Psalm 8 was written, the only seas known to the Hebrews were the Dead Sea, the Sea of Galilee, the Mediterranean, and the Red Sea.’ These bodies of water did not possess “paths” or significant observable currents. It took Matthew Maury a great deal of time to collect the crude observational data that existed from the fifteenth to the nineteenth century to make his own discovery. And yet the Psalmist wrote of “the paths of the seas.”

Solar System
Job 38:31 explains the solar system. The Hebrew speaks of a pivot or hinge. In the South-Southwest is the Pleiades, 7 stars making up the center of the solar system. Amos 5:8 states the Pleiades consists of 7 stars but it was only discovered in this last century because with the naked eye one can see only 6.

This is just about 5% of the scientific references in the Bible that have proven to be true.
Check out this site for more info gche.org/scientific_allusions.htm

So why do athiests say Christians have “Blind” Faith? This is ample proof of that the scriptures were supernaturally inspired.

[Anthem]

@Soldout

Number of stars exceeds a billions
…Genesis 15:5 says the stars cannot be numbered by man.

Have you ever tried to count a thousand of something? How many times do you have to restart your count when you’re rolling 50 pennies? Also, have you ever looked at a night sky? The stars continue to appear as your night vision adjusts. This was a metaphor. And if it’s not, why doesn’t the Bible talk about galaxies, quasars, pulsars, nebulae, etc. etc.?

@Soldout

The Earth is Spherical
Isaiah 40:22 tells us the earth is not flat but a round sphere. The prophet states “He (God) sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers.” The Bible had refuted the flat earth theory long before scientists actually disproved it.

A circle and a sphere are two way different concepts.

@Soldout

Earth is suspended in space
Job 26:7 says the earth is suspended on nothing. Early man thought Atlas, a huge turtle or elephants held up the earth. In the North sky within the millions of stars is a vast expanse of blackness. The Bible was there before the telescope so only God could describe it. Today we know it is gravity that holds the planets and stars in their orbits making them appear to be hung on nothing. He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing. (Job 26:7)

This could have been an explanation for astrological observations, or just a boast of how much better their god was because he didn’t need anything to suspend the earth on but his own will.

@Soldout

Ocean and Wind currents
Psalm 8:8 mentions the paths of the sea. We read about “the birds of the air, and the fish of’ the sea, all that swim the paths of the sea.” But it wasn’t until the mid nineteenth century when Matthew Fontaine Maury, the “father of oceanography,” published his discovery that the ocean possesses predictable paths or currents. When Psalm 8 was written, the only seas known to the Hebrews were the Dead Sea, the Sea of Galilee, the Mediterranean, and the Red Sea.’ These bodies of water did not possess “paths” or significant observable currents. It took Matthew Maury a great deal of time to collect the crude observational data that existed from the fifteenth to the nineteenth century to make his own discovery. And yet the Psalmist wrote of “the paths of the seas.”

What, are you kidding me? ‘Paths of the sea’ does not describe a current, and besides, sailors knew of water currents to some degree and air currents well before oceanography or meteorology.

@Soldout

Solar System
Job 38:31 explains the solar system. The Hebrew speaks of a pivot or hinge. In the South-Southwest is the Pleiades, 7 stars making up the center of the solar system. Amos 5:8 states the Pleiades consists of 7 stars but it was only discovered in this last century because with the naked eye one can see only 6.

Um, yeah…about that…

@Wikipedia

It is dominated by young, hot blue stars, up to 14 of which can be seen with the naked eye depending on local observing conditions.

@Soldout

This is just about 5% of the scientific references in the Bible that have proven to be true.
Check out this site for more info gche.org/scientific_allusions.htm

So why do athiests say Christians have “Blind” Faith? This is ample proof of that the scriptures were supernaturally inspired.

Orly?

[MrDoom]

Is this even worth it…?

Ah, hell, I’ve nothing better to do at the moment.

@Soldout

A lot of non believers do not believe the Bible is truth and i think the reason is because they do not want to do the research to find out its validy. I believe people are not after truth but they are after further cementing their own beliefs. I know because i have been there. I used to be an atheist myself. Shocker huh? I am amazed at my own transformation. But anyway to cut a long story short God has become a reality to me and only God could have changed me from who i was to who i am now.

I am the reverse. I used to believe in your god myself. But then one morning I woke up and noticed he was dead.

I believe the Bible is God Inspired not just by faith but there is a insurmountable amounts of evidence to prove its validy. The Bible never claims to be a text book on science but when it does speak on nature or physics it is absolutely accurate.

Maybe, but that doesn’t prove anything for being divinely inspired nor does it show that any supernatural beings exist. The truth of secondary claims does not hit the jackpot, bub, and here the jackpot is the proof of your god’s existence.

Number of stars exceeds a billions
God speaking to Abraham who is the one he would begin to give his teachings to Gen. 13:16 “And I will make your descendants as the dust of the earth; so that if a man could number the dust of the earth, then your descendants also could be numbered.” Genesis 15:5 says the stars cannot be numbered by man. Jeremiah 33:32 explains the stars are beyond numbering. Before the telescope was invented, man was able to number the stars. Hipparchus said in 150 B.C. there are exactly 1,026 stars. 150 years later a Roman named Ptolemy said there are 1,056, Kepler counted 1,006. Since Galileo invented the telescope in 1608, we continued to discover more stars. Up until the last few hundred years until the discovery of the telescope there were only 6,000 stars seen by the naked eye. A modern telescope of 200 inches estimates 100 billion stars in our galaxy alone. And there are not millions but billions of such galaxies. The Biblical scientific insights were far in advance of four modern day science. Today, with our technology and high powered telescopes in space and astronomers estimate that there are 100 billion stars in our galaxy with an additional 20-100 billion galaxies in the universe! Henry Morris says there are at least 10 million, billion, billion stars! See Gen.15:5, Job 22:12; Isaiah 55:9; 1 Corinthians 15:41 and 2 Peter 3:10.
Gen. 22:17 “ I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; Another example of the amount of stars that cannot be counted.

The Bible here makes a sweeping generality that fits to our incomplete knowledge of the cosmos and you put it forth as a valid claim? Hah.

We don’t have any idea how many stars are out there. Hell, we aren’t even too sure of the size of the universe. Ancient man certainly didn’t know, and how many people REALLY bothered to attempt counting all (that were visible to their means)? The layperson for whom the Bible was written for didn’t, and in their minds the number of stars was a poetic surrogate for “a really big number”.

The Earth is Spherical
Isaiah 40:22 tells us the earth is not flat but a round sphere. The prophet states “He (God) sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers.” The Bible had refuted the flat earth theory long before scientists actually disproved it.

It didn’t “refute” it, to refute means not only to contradict a wrong assertion but to also explain, in logical terms why the assertion is wrong and the contradiction right.

Your quote doesn’t mention a sphere, it mentions a circle, and that your god sits above it. That describes nothing of the shape of the world, only the spatial relationship between it and your god.

Earth is suspended in space
Job 26:7 says the earth is suspended on nothing. Early man thought Atlas, a huge turtle or elephants held up the earth. In the North sky within the millions of stars is a vast expanse of blackness. The Bible was there before the telescope so only God could describe it. Today we know it is gravity that holds the planets and stars in their orbits making them appear to be hung on nothing. He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing. (Job 26:7)

Again, sweeping generalities which mean nothing in themselves yet fit into any mold desirable. And even if this were condeded to be accurate, so what? It doesn’t bring anything to the case of your god’s existence.

Ocean and Wind currents
Psalm 8:8 mentions the paths of the sea. We read about “the birds of the air, and the fish of’ the sea, all that swim the paths of the sea.” But it wasn’t until the mid nineteenth century when Matthew Fontaine Maury, the “father of oceanography,” published his discovery that the ocean possesses predictable paths or currents. When Psalm 8 was written, the only seas known to the Hebrews were the Dead Sea, the Sea of Galilee, the Mediterranean, and the Red Sea.’ These bodies of water did not possess “paths” or significant observable currents. It took Matthew Maury a great deal of time to collect the crude observational data that existed from the fifteenth to the nineteenth century to make his own discovery. And yet the Psalmist wrote of “the paths of the seas.”

What exactly was meant by “the paths of the seas”? Ocean and wind currents, as you say? Sea-lanes? Some other poetic metaphor?

This argument is empty and relies only on baseless semantics.

Solar System
Job 38:31 explains the solar system. The Hebrew speaks of a pivot or hinge. In the South-Southwest is the Pleiades, 7 stars making up the center of the solar system. Amos 5:8 states the Pleiades consists of 7 stars but it was only discovered in this last century because with the naked eye one can see only 6.

Again, so what if this is true? It speaks nothing for the existence of your god.

So why do athiests say Christians have “Blind” Faith? This is ample proof of that the scriptures were supernaturally inspired.

No it isn’t. At best it shows that ancient man wasn’t as “stupid” or “inferior” as modern man makes him out to be. At worst it shows that anyone can make sweeping generalities that can fit almost any mold, and a good guess or two. Sorry, pal, but none of this hits the “God Jackpot”.

[humegotitright]

Aww man, how gutted am I that two people got here before me…

[Anthem]

@humegotitright

Aww man, how gutted am I that two people got here before me…

Sorry.

You can have the next one

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The Earth is Spherical
Isaiah 40:22 tells us the earth is not flat but a round sphere. The prophet states “He (God) sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers.” The Bible had refuted the flat earth theory long before scientists actually disproved it.

A circle and a sphere are two way different concepts

lol you are all in denail. Its funny how people will always find ways rationalise themselves out of truth.

Acually the word for circle in Hebrew also means a sphere or with roundness. The Hebrew word is chuwg a primitive root; to describe a circle: to encircle, to encompass, to describe a circle, to draw round, to make a circle; a shpere (Qal) to encircle, to encompass.
So this verse here could also be translated He sits enthroned above the sphere/encirlement of the earth and its in habitants are like grasshoppers" showing God’s airial view.
So you can deny this all you want and try and make justification to promote your own beliefs but the fact of the matter is while scientists were harping about a flat earth, 3000 years ago Isaiah had already espstablished the earth was shperical. Amen!

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Earth is suspended in space
Job 26:7 says the earth is suspended on nothing. Early man thought Atlas, a huge turtle or elephants held up the earth. In the North sky within the millions of stars is a vast expanse of blackness. The Bible was there before the telescope so only God could describe it. Today we know it is gravity that holds the planets and stars in their orbits making them appear to be hung on nothing. He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing. (Job 26:7)

This could have been an explanation for astrological observations, or just a boast of how much better their god was because he didn’t need anything to suspend the earth on but his own will.

Astrological observation? How could he have observed the earth’s suspension? …lol are you serious right now? It was only known the earth is suppended on nothing in last few hundred years or so and yet here is a man who lived THOUSANDS of years ago who describes a spherical earth suspended in Space. And the best excuse you can come up with is “he was just boasting about what God can do”…lol What huge coincidene; his “boasting” was 100% scientifically accurate.

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Solar System
Job 38:31 explains the solar system. The Hebrew speaks of a pivot or hinge. In the South-Southwest is the Pleiades, 7 stars making up the center of the solar system. Amos 5:8 states the Pleiades consists of 7 stars but it was only discovered in this last century because with the naked eye one can see only 6.

Um, yeah…about that…

Wikipedia wrote:
It is dominated by young, hot blue stars, up to 14 of which can be seen with the naked eye depending on local observing conditions.

um yeah… about that… please do not misquote Wikipedia to suit your argument. Dont run away from truth…lol

Wikipedia wrote:

“The Pleiades (pronounced /ˈpliːədiːz/ or /ˈplaɪədiːz/), also known as M45, the Seven Sisters, SED, or Subaru (in Japan), is an open cluster in the constellation of Taurus.
The cluster is dominated by hot blue stars which have formed within the last 100 million years
The Pleiades (Krittika) are particularly revered in Hindu mythology as the six mothers of the war god Skanda, who developed six faces, one for each of them.”

In ancient Hindu mythology they called the stars “six mothers” because only SIX are veiwable with the naked Eye.
Thousands of yeas ago the Bible had already established they were 7. Seven is also the number of God. Coincidence?

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Ocean and Wind currents
Psalm 8:8 mentions the paths of the sea. We read about “the birds of the air, and the fish of’ the sea, all that swim the paths of the sea.” But it wasn’t until the mid nineteenth century when Matthew Fontaine Maury, the “father of oceanography,” published his discovery that the ocean possesses predictable paths or currents. When Psalm 8 was written, the only seas known to the Hebrews were the Dead Sea, the Sea of Galilee, the Mediterranean, and the Red Sea.’ These bodies of water did not possess “paths” or significant observable currents. It took Matthew Maury a great deal of time to collect the crude observational data that existed from the fifteenth to the nineteenth century to make his own discovery. And yet the Psalmist wrote of “the paths of the seas.”

What, are you kidding me? ‘Paths of the sea’ does not describe a current, and besides, sailors knew of water currents to some degree and air currents well before oceanography or meteorology.

The real question here is are YOU kidding me? Sailors? …lol from 4000 years ago? Ionly know of the earliest ships more like boats from 900 BC. Besides like i said the only known seas were the Dead Sea, the Sea of Galilee, the Mediterranean, and the Red Sea which do not possess ocean currents. we have only discovered in recent years that fish follow the “Paths” of water currents while Birds follow the paths of wind currents.

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Solar System
Job 38:31 explains the solar system. The Hebrew speaks of a pivot or hinge. In the South-Southwest is the Pleiades, 7 stars making up the center of the solar system. Amos 5:8 states the Pleiades consists of 7 stars but it was only discovered in this last century because with the naked eye one can see only 6.

Again, so what if this is true? It speaks nothing for the existence of your god.

It certainly proves the writer had a supernatural understanding of astronomy considering this was not known until telescope were invented.

[Anthem]

Ok, let’s try to keep this to one post at a time.

The circle/sphere thing just shows the inadequecy of the Bible as a literal document.

Man observed the roundness of the earth for a long time by looking at the heavens and also looking at the curvature of the earth over the sea. If it’s round all around, well, on what could it sit?

I did not misquote wikipedia:

Don’t accuse me of lying again.

They observed the stars and wrote about them, not the other way around.

And yes, sailors.

@Wikipedia

The earliest representation of a ship under sail appears on an Egyptian vase from about 3500 BC.

Now go check the source before you accuse me of lying again.

Your scientific look at the Bible is a joke.

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Ok, let’s try to keep this to one post at a time.

The circle/sphere thing just shows the inadequecy of the Bible as a literal document.

Man observed the roundness of the earth for a long time by looking at the heavens and also looking at the curvature of the earth over the sea. If it’s round all around, well, on what could it sit?

lol… Its funny what lenths people go to avoid truth…lol are you serious? wiki
In early antiquity, the Earth was generally believed to be flat. According to Aristotle, pre-Socratic philosophers, including Leucippus (c. 440 BC) and Democritus (c. 460-370 BC) believed in a flat earth.
In ancient China, the prevailing belief was that the earth was flat and square, while the Heavens were round,[23] an assumption which remained dominant until the introduction of European astronomy in the 17th century
By classical times the idea that Earth was spherical began to take hold in Ancient Greece. Pythagoras in the 6th century BC, apparently on aesthetic grounds, held that all the celestial bodies were spherical. However, most Presocratic Pythagoreans considered the world to be flat.

I did not misquote wikipedia:
Don’t accuse me of lying again.

Ofcourse there are hundreds of stars in the cluster but there are 7 main binary stars hense the Name “Seven sisters”.

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And yes, sailors.

@Wikipedia

The earliest representation of a ship under sail appears on an Egyptian vase from about 3500 BC Now go check the source before you accuse me of lying again.

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I doubt very much that in 3500BC there were Egyptian sailors that were sailing aroung the world and knew of ocean currents. The Ancient Egyptians ships were used mainly used in the Nile River during funerals and for fishing read reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/tim … gation.htm Besides even if there were “sailors” who knew of ocean currents, who knew at that time that fish flower paths of ocean current? It was also not general knowlege that birds followed paths of wind currents. Your arguements are so weak.

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whats really funny is that you all have such lame excuses for avoiding truth.

[Anthem]

You’re a sad, demented man.

Wait, let me guess, the universe was also made in 6 days about 6000 years ago. Wait wait, Noah was able to get two of every living species on a boat. Oh, oh, the ancient Babylonians were in danger of physically reaching heaven with a tower.

The Bible is not a scientific document, it is not literal document. Get over it.

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You’re a sad, demented man

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oh, so Because you have now run out of excuses to avoid truth, i am now a sad demeted man?

Wait, let me guess, the universe was also made in 6 days about 6000 years ago.

The Bible does not specifically date the Age of the earth/universe. It just says “in the Beginning God created the Heavens and the earth” it does not say how long ago. It then Goes on to says “the earth was void and without form” so the time lapse between the earth being in this state and to when God acually started creating man, is not specified. So it could have been 1 millions years; 10K years, 100 billion years. No one can know for sure how old the the earth is. Scientists can only Guess.

Wait wait, Noah was able to get two of every living species on a boat.

Yes! why not?
The Genesis “kind” of animal is undoubtedly a more flexible term than the biological species. Many of today’s species of animals could have descended from these different “kinds.” Thus, if the scientific genus is taken to be equal to the biblical “kind,” then this would result in about 8,000 genera, and therefore, nearly 16,000 animals on the ark (this accounts for both live animals and extinct animals known from fossils).
Noah would not have needed to take sea creatures because they would not necessarily be threatened with extinction by a flood. However, turbulent water would cause massive carnage, as seen in the fossil record, and many oceanic species probably would have become extinct because of the Flood.
There would have been ample space available on the ark to store these animals. According to the biblical record, the ark measured about 137x23x14 meters or 450x75x45 feet,[92] so its volume was about 44,000 m3 or 1.5 million cubic feet. The animals, however, did not have to be fully grown. The largest animals could have been represented by “teenage” or even younger specimens. The average size of the animals on the ark could actually have been that of a small rat, according to up-to-date tabulations, while only about 11 percent may have been much larger.

Oh, oh, the ancient Babylonians were in danger of physically reaching heaven with a tower.

If you actually read the whole story instead of taking one verse out of context you would know that it was the rebelion that mattered to God not because he was afraid the tower would reach heaven. Plse do you some reading before you continue to embarasse yourself.

The Bible is not a scientific document, it is not literal document. Get over it

The Bible never claims to be a text book on science but when it does speak on nature or physics it is absolutely accurate. It is also very literal because its Historicity have been proven. For example The Ancient Egyptians did record record events such as plagues that God sent, even rivers turning to blood. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagues_of_Egypt read the Histoticity section.

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Do you know what happens when humans and other complex animals inbreed? God would have to manipulate the gene pool himself to ensure the survival of any species taken down to two members, or in our case the handful of humans on the boat. Why would he do that over changing everyone on earth using the same ‘gene therapy’, or he could have had Noah make a smaller boat (you know, one that would actually sail) and recreating the animals?

Oh, I know! Because the Bible stole the story, and the story wasn’t about a worldwide deluge.

[Cyrene]

Yes! why not?
The Genesis “kind” of animal is undoubtedly a more flexible term than the biological species. Many of today’s species of animals could have descended from these different “kinds.” Thus, if the scientific genus is taken to be equal to the biblical “kind,” then this would result in about 8,000 genera, and therefore, nearly 16,000 animals on the ark (this accounts for both live animals and extinct animals known from fossils).
Noah would not have needed to take sea creatures because they would not necessarily be threatened with extinction by a flood. However, turbulent water would cause massive carnage, as seen in the fossil record, and many oceanic species probably would have become extinct because of the Flood.
There would have been ample space available on the ark to store these animals. According to the biblical record, the ark measured about 137x23x14 meters or 450x75x45 feet,[92] so its volume was about 44,000 m3 or 1.5 million cubic feet. The animals, however, did not have to be fully grown. The largest animals could have been represented by “teenage” or even younger specimens. The average size of the animals on the ark could actually have been that of a small rat, according to up-to-date tabulations, while only about 11 percent may have been much larger.

Its really pathetic trying to see someone justify the absurdity of noah’s ark to themselves. Pick a time-frame for when it happened, and then let someone explain to you why the species couldn’t coexist on the boat, let alone for them to all walk to their seperate geographic/environmental niche’s, after the animals were dropped off all the tigers went one way, all the lions another, all the deer another, in massive herds until they arrived at their spots, pre-adapted to live there?

No, we know animal species evolved in certain areas for millions of years, before humans.

and yes, a global flood would present a massive threat to both OCEAN, and LAKE life.

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@Anthem

Do you know what happens when humans and other complex animals inbreed? God would have to manipulate the gene pool himself to ensure the survival of any species taken down to two members WHY NOT? or in our case the handful of humans on the boat. Why would he do that over changing everyone on earth using the same ‘gene therapy’, or he could have had Noah make a smaller boat (you know, one that would actually sail) and recreating the animals?

Oh, I know! Because the Bible stole the story, and the story wasn’t about a worldwide deluge.

More and more excuses…lol i finding it difficult to stay awake. This is just your human reasoning on how things should be done. God clearly says his ways are not our ways and our thoughts are not our thoughts for as far as the heaves are from the earth so are his way and thoughts away from ours. So dont say “well why didnt god do this or that” that is just your Human reasoning which is nothing, zero! to God.

[Maytacera]

I’m not sure if a mere human such as yourself is in a position to condemn the opinion of others in regards to the interpretation of the bible.

[MrDoom]

@Soldout

@Anthem

Do you know what happens when humans and other complex animals inbreed? God would have to manipulate the gene pool himself to ensure the survival of any species taken down to two members WHY NOT? or in our case the handful of humans on the boat. Why would he do that over changing everyone on earth using the same ‘gene therapy’, or he could have had Noah make a smaller boat (you know, one that would actually sail) and recreating the animals?

Oh, I know! Because the Bible stole the story, and the story wasn’t about a worldwide deluge.

More and more excuses…lol i finding it difficult to stay awake. This is just your human reasoning on how things should be done. God clearly says his ways are not our ways and our thoughts are not our thoughts for as far as the heaves are from the earth so are his way and thoughts away from ours. So dont say “well why didnt god do this or that” that is just your Human reasoning which is nothing, zero! to God.

But apparently YOU are in understanding of your god, and are able to employ “mere” human reasoning to interpret the Bible as a pre-scientific treatise and denounce others for their reasonings, and can rationalize with impunity while accusing others of rationalizing themselves… Because YOU have faith.

[Anthem]

I can’t remember who made the thread, but someone thought that if there was a god he would reward the non-believers because God gave us a magnificent brain with which to reason that things like Noah and the Ark are just silly stories, and he would punish those who believed in the Bible for being stupid.

@Eli from 'There Will Be Blood'

Do you think God will save you because you’re stupid? God doesn’t save stupid people, Abel.