Science is the handmaiden of capitalism

nevah!

sigh fine

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5158569-trump-zelensky-putin-ukraine-russia/

These days he’s insulting Putin and Zelensky equally. Back then he was kissing Putin‘s ass (a bluff) … and part of that was making it look like he was tough on Zelensky (a bluff). He didn’t wanna be tough on Zelensky. He wanted Zelensky‘s minerals. And I’m pretty sure Zelensky (was it?) was lying when he said someone told him that Trump was playing him.

Right before that, Assad’s whereabouts were up in the air, and the Kremlin was not very forthcoming:

Seemed to me the lack of disclosure/transparency was not taken as very friendly, as seen in Trump’s lack of disclosure/transparency on his real stance with respect to the Ukraine (absent the influence, no doubt, of the conflict-of-interest tainted input from Elon Musk).

Just a feeling. A hunch. It was confirmed when Zelensky and Trump had that disastrous meeting in public in the Oval Office. He was still trying to be on Putin‘s good side, and there were limits to what he could say to Putin, especially in public, even if indirectly. He knew that talking smack about or indirectly to Putin is not what you do when you’re trying to make a deal.

Now (well, always) his ego is in the way and he’s talking smack about both of them again.

That means he thinks a deal is not possible. And he is absolving himself of responsibility, similar to how Putin did with respect to Syria.

So, there’s this: “Kremlin criticizes move by Ukraine’s allies to lift ban on firing long-range missiles at Russia”

BS fashion statements for the rich.

Probably about as successful as his cars and rockets!
LOL

He’s just a sick old man.

You were looking in the mirror your last two replies, weren’t ya, Sculptor?

k bye bye

President Trump has sharply criticized President Vladimir Putin for unleashing a storm of drone and missile attacks on Ukrainian cities Sunday evening, saying he was “not happy” with the Russian leader defying efforts to secure a ceasefire to end the three-year war.

Trump told reporters Sunday that Putin is killing a lot of people. “I don’t know what the hell happened to Putin,” Trump said. “I’ve known him a long time, always gotten along with him but he’s sending rockets into cities and killing people, and I don’t like it at all.” Trump actually thought Putin was his friend. Wow, did he get played?!

When asked if he would consider more sanctions on Russia, Trump said “absolutely.” But once again, he did nothing, which makes him look weak.

By stepping up attacks on Ukraine, While the Trump administration is mediating peace talks Putin is showing he doesn’t take Trump‘s bluffing and bluster seriously. He’s playing Trump for the fool that he is.

Remember that Trump thinks he’s the master of the art of the deal. He said he would have a deal between the Ukraine and Russia on the first day was presidency nearly 6 months ago.

Why did the MAGA folks still believe him? They are a study in mass cult behavior. They share his resentment of the elite classes. Witness how they double down against the cognitive dissonance produced by the evidence. Trump will fail, but how much will he damage will he do to science and science education in the meantime?

Look at his attacks on Harvard. Perhaps Trump is resentful because Harvard denied admission to his son Barron. If he is not stopped quickly, the best students in the brightest minds will leave the US.

The Trump administration has frozen $2.2 billion in federal research grants to Harvard, with the potential for further cuts. The funding freeze has caused significant disruption to research projects across various fields, including medical, engineering, and scientific research.
Researchers are concerned about the impact on ongoing research, the potential for project delays or cancellations, and the impact on the careers of graduate students and faculty.

He shouldn’t be cutting funding for basic science research at agencies like the NSF, EPA, NASA, NOAA or the NIH or gutting science grants to colleges and universities. Short term savings there will be costly to the US in the long run.

According to the document he is not cutting “basic science research” but only these specific ancillaries at NSF:

**National Science Foundation (NSF)**
**Cuts, Reductions, and Consolidations**

General Research and Education -3,479
The Budget cuts funding for: climate; clean energy; woke social, behavioral, and economic sciences;
and programs in low priority areas of science. NSF has fueled research with dubious public value,
like speculative impacts from extreme climate scenarios and niche social studies, such as a grant to
the University of Nebraska to create “affinity groups” for bird watchers and a $15.2 million grant to
the University of Delaware to develop and evaluate policy interventions to “achieve sustainable
equity, economic prosperity, and coastal resilience in the context of climate change.” Similarly,
Columbia University received $13.8 million to “advance livable, safe, and inclusive communities.”
:backhand_index_pointing_right: Funding for Artificial Intelligence and quantum information sciences research is maintained at
current levels.
:backhand_index_pointing_right: Funding for Artificial Intelligence and quantum information sciences research is maintained at
current levels.

Broadening Participation -1,130
NSF “Broadening Participation” programs have funded projects such as: “Reimagining Educator
Learning Pathways Through Storywork for Racial Equity in STEM”; “addressing White Supremacy
in the STEM profession”; and preparing “the next generation of DEI leaders to promote long-term,
sustainable racial equity initiatives.”

EPA:
Trump has increased funding for clean water for Americans and Native Americans.

Trumps budget cuts include:
“EPA’s State Revolving Fund (SRF) was designed decades ago to give money to States via formula
allocation for seed money to set up their own water infrastructure loan programs without continued
annual appropriations. When it comes to water infrastructure, the States should be responsible for
funding their own water infrastructure projects. Contrary to that design, in practice, the program has
been heavily earmarked by the Congress for projects that are ultimately not repaid into the program
and bypass States’ interest and planning. In addition, the SRFs are largely duplicative of the EPA’s
Water Infrastructure Finance and Innovation Act (WIFIA) program and the Department of
Agriculture’s (USDA) Water and Wastewater Loan and Grant program, and they received a massive
investment in the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA). The Budget proposes to return the
SRFs to their intended structure of funds revolving at the State level, and therefore provides the decreased funding level of $305 million total to allow States to adjust to alternative funding sources
for their water infrastructure.
Categorical Grants -1,006
EPA’s Categorical Grant programs have become a crutch for States at the expense of taxpayers—
many of whom receive no benefit from these grants. With a majority of these statutes having been on
the books for several decades, States and local governments should be capable and empowered to
fund their own programs in order to comply with the law. As such, the Budget includes the
elimination of 16 categorical grants, and maintains funding at 2025 enacted levels for Tribes. These
reductions promote federalism by allowing States to achieve primary enforcement authority for these
programs, while also encouraging States to innovate and find more efficient ways to meet their
responsibilities under delegated authority.
Hazardous Substance Superfund -254
EPA’s Superfund program is charged with cleaning up contaminated areas and responding to
emergencies, such as oil spills and natural disasters. The Congress imposed large taxes in IIJA and
the Inflation Reduction Act to help finance the Superfund program. Between these $1.6 billion in
taxes estimated to be available in 2026 and litigation recoveries from responsible parties, there is no
need for additional funding for Superfund cleanup, which is reflected in the Budget.
Office of Research and Development -235
The President is committed to Making America Healthy Again. This framework includes ensuring
that the American people have clean air and water, and is making investments that benefit human
health. The Budget puts an end to unrestrained research grants, radical environmental justice work,
woke climate research, and skewed, overly-precautionary modeling that influences regulations—
none of which are authorized by law. Instead, the Budget provides $281 million for statutorily
required research in support of core mission areas that help the American people.
Environmental Justice -100
EPA’s environmental justice program is eliminated in line with the vision the President set forth in
Executive Order 14151, “Ending Radical and Wasteful Government DEI Programs and
Preferencing,” and Executive Order 14173, “Ending Illegal Discrimination and Restoring MeritBased Opportunity,” terminating radical preferencing and restoring and protecting civil rights for all
Americans. This elimination would put an end to taxpayer funded programs that promote divisive
racial discrimination and environmental justice grants that were destined to go to organizations that
advance radical ideologies.
Diesel Emissions Reduction Act
(DERA) Grants -90 DERA grants distort the market by subsidizing select technologies, picking winners and subverting
consumer choice. This program is a waste for taxpayers and should be eliminated.”

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No, he doesn’t think Putin is his friend. He says nice things about people he is negotiating with, when they are not being nice, because he is planning to go south on them if they don’t stop.

You gotta give people a chance to stop before you go south on them. You can say this is giving them a chance to stop: “Ukraine’s allies … lift ban on firing long-range missiles”.

I haven’t listened to the news since I slept. And I don’t usually, so pardon me if there’s an update I missed.

THIS.

Trump talks a lot - like a broken sewerage pipe but he have very little to say of worth.

Have you considered a) he is still considering it, b) perhaps he’s giving the lifted ban a chance to work, c) he changed his mind?

..when a person can’t just get to the point. :backhand_index_pointing_up:t3:

:yawning_face:

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What are you talking about.
You are talking as if Trump has a plan :rofl:

Be specific
In your points
a) What is “it”?
b) What ban?
c) What position in his mind, has he changed. Be specific.

google: “Kremlin criticizes move by Ukraine’s allies to lift ban on firing long-range missiles at Russia” (I linked to it above, if you trust MSN).

You act like Trump is the only one dealing with Russia.

Your ‘a’ and ‘c’ can go fly a kite. Try to keep up, will ya?

Here we see the ideological work of the so called project 2025 which Trump disavowed knowledge of when he was campaigning. The document is nothing but a political argument. When it says “such as” and lists a project that sounds “dubious” as an example the reader is then asked to trust the writer’s judgment that whatever research they categorize as “climate, clean energy or woke” is also dubious. The writer presupposes that anything that they put in these boxes is bad in itself. I don’t trust them. I don’t think that scientific research should be subject to the political whims of either party. I think these cuts are motivated by the desire to cut taxes for the 1% and to privatize any science research they think could be profitable.

Trying to communicate with you is like talking to a goldfish

Would a goldfish smirk and keep eating this and ignore you?

A goldfish would forget what they are talking about and do something irrelevant like posting a bowl of something that pretends to be food.

Kinda like you pretend to have well-researched conversations on here?

I’ve studied science quite a bit in my time.
Go ahead.
Make your case for the thread.

No. There are very small amounts of natural trans fats in animal fat.
For example LARD, rendered pig fat is 50% Oleic Acid, - thesame fatty acid for which Olive oil is renouned.
The vast majority of trans fats comes from the hydrogenation process of the factory created sedd oils, commonly known as “vegetable oil”, and is at its highest concentrarion in the human diet since the invention of CRISCO.

Trans fats have only more recently been identified as problematic.
The false association with ordinary healthy saturated fat has wrongly demonised saturated fat, which is now fully exonerated.

The plant based animal based distinction is not relevant to human health.

Fat presents itself as triglycerides. Imagine one backbone of GLYCEROL, to which any three fatty acides can attach.
There are 100s of fatty acids, but the ones found in food are mostly found in both animals and plants.

Here are some comparisons of typical fats.

There are only a small number of essential fatty acids - as the body can make most of what it needs.
Omega -3
Omega -6
Saturated C-15

Omega-6 i necessary but inflamatory and we get far too much in our diet because of food processing.

BREAKING NEWS::: The American Collage of Cardiology has completely exonerated Saturated fat.
It is sadly evident that Capitalism has completely ignored this, because they want to continue to peddle cheap factory made SEED OILS, high in Omega-6 as “healthy”.
I say breaking news but they published this in 2020!!
Here’s what they said.

The recommendation to limit dietary saturated fatty acid (SFA) intake has persisted despite mounting evidence to the contrary. Most recent meta-analyses of randomized trials and observational studies found no beneficial effects of reducing SFA intake on cardiovascular disease (CVD) and total mortality, and instead found protective effects against stroke. Although SFAs increase low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol, in most individuals, this is not due to increasing levels of small, dense LDL particles, but rather larger LDL particles, which are much less strongly related to CVD risk. It is also apparent that the health effects of foods cannot be predicted by their content in any nutrient group without considering the overall macronutrient distribution. Whole-fat dairy, unprocessed meat, and dark chocolate are SFA-rich foods with a complex matrix that are not associated with increased risk of CVD. The totality of available evidence does not support further limiting the intake of such foods.