Science, science, science, SUPERIORITY!!

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According to this, logic comes before math. So is math’s indebt to logic, physics to math, chem to physics and so on? Would logician be the most influential scientific career path, as advancements in other fields dependent on one’s own logic discoveries would be indebt to oneself? Does this make logic a “psuedo-unmoved mover”? While the non-existence of free will (Unless you’re religious) limits at to “psuedo”, what’s important is to make a splash right here and now. Maybe some other field than logic would be best for a big splash. I know little about it, but I have the impression that logic is a small and dry field, with little truly big and new things to contribute. So which field would be the easiest to make the biggest splash?

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Also interesting in relation to the above. Economics and law has a huge direct influence on funding for everything else. E.g. had the financial crisis been averted through better econ policy, that would mean more funding for all science fields. Marriage laws were altered a lot during last century, skyrocketing divorce rates. Splashy indeed. For example, had the financial crisis been averted through better economic policy, that would have secured more funding for all fields of science. Laws regarding marriage were significanly altered during the last century, which have a significant negative impact on divorce rate and raising of children. On the other hand, the social sciences seems to lack the laser-like, lasting influence of the hard sciences. I have the impression that exceptions are relegated to the upper echelons of social scientists, such as Jung, von Hayek, Friedmann, Freud, Edward Bernays and Keynes. Wrong?

Moving on. Correct me if I’m wrong, but in classical physics, chemistry would be reducable to physics, and thus obsolete if we knew all of physics. Quantum mechanics averts this and justifies continued chemistry research, right?

Again, moving on. Why do mathematicians and physicists dislike chemists and vice-versa? There’s an antagonistic split between them. The former block also seems to reek of elitism. Is this due to something substantial, or is it blatant narcissism? Do similar things happen to CS, earth sciences, genetics, etc?

Finally, which Enneatype and Mbti type do I seem like?

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Logic leads to truth (and yes comes before all other thought). Power and wealth come from politics, not truth - the right amount of truth at the right time. Being a logician would make you the adversary to the wealthy and powerful who would in turn ensure that science stayed properly confused (as it is).

What we call logic today is what was referred to as the prime principles above all things (ie. “God”). The principles of logic were referred to as “spirit” (ie “whatever it is that causes things to move as they do”). Logic is what causes all things to move as they do. But in an anti-God era, anti-logic is enforced; magic, pseudo-science, spiritualism, known false religions, scientism, and so on.

If you are looking to succeed, go with flow. The “age of reason” was very short lived and is left behind. The entirety of Man is insane - always has been.

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How is that so? Logic is a tool, and an imperfect one at that. At best, it can only produce valid chains of reasoning. Today is Sunday. Let’s say this is a true statement. Let’s also say you lost track of what day it was and had to ask your friend Mary. She tells you it’s Monday (which is false). You had a very important meeting scheduled for Sunday evening that you are now extremely worried about because if it’s Monday you know logically that you’ve missed your meeting. Clearly, knowing something logically is not the same as knowing the truth, ergo logic is insufficient for truth. Let’s say you’ve been stranded on a deserted island for four months and lost track of what day it is. How will logic lead you to the fact that it’s Sunday? If your aim is truth, logic alone is in most cases impotent.

When you say that logic comes before all other thought, do you mean that all other thought supervenes on logic?

…only if your idea of success is fulfilling the expectations of others.

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I suppose as far as anti-logic, how would you define “known false religions”. Since, its kind of illogical to have a known “true” religion to begin with.