Self-esteem and pride seem to me very similar in their essential qualities, yet society’s attitude toward each is so highly different.
High self-esteem makes a person seek to improve their body by eating healthy and exercising; it makes them want to excel in their profession because they have a high opinion of themselves and what they can accomplish. And society appreciates and celebrates this quality in people.
Pride, on the other hand, is basically they same thing, but directed outwards. If a person is proud, they have a high opinion of themself, and think others should share and act on that opinion. And, society condemns this behavior.
So the questions:
Are pride and self-esteem different in any of their essentials?
If you are proud, are you more apt to have a high self-esteem, and vice-versa?
If they are connected, is it better to have both or none?
it is all the in the difference of thinking loving yourself or the thoughts above you feeling revolted of racism child abuse any power on weak lying betrahison are of God values if you love them you are a being him in these expressions unfortunately all people use them to fake pride to get a recognition of a high esteem on others as many religious men or workers in donations charity it is sure a graduate ambivalence depending on God will in a precise time you are saying sure that only Him knows what are you making now but for me i rather respect an true guy who shows disrespect to values and loving to hear an applause of a warm room infront of him than sacred values abused as killed
this is a good observation, and yes, they are connected in some way or another. but what i think that society sees as bad (by this i mean western society) is when a person is too prideful to the point where they are cocky and condescending. i personally see nothing wrong with having pride in one’s work or with expecting others to show you respect, but when your attitude gets to the point where you insult others, this pride becomes a bad thing. sometimes i think that society/religion overdoes the whole pride is bad thing, but my view follows the “everything-with-moderation” school of thought.
i think that you hit the nail on the head when you described the differences between self-esteem and pride. from what i see, one can act proud, yet they lack necessary self-esteem, and there are those that i see that have high self esteem but dont act proud or prideful. however, i think that there is more of a connection between the two on average: if you are proud you have self esteem and vice versa.
I would say that if your self-esteem is based on a true and fair evaluation of your traits and qualities, that’s confidence and can be considered a virtue.
If it’s based on dillusion and poor judgement, that’s conceit.
A confident man recognizes his strengths and his weaknesses and rationally chooses to pursue the former and avoid the latter.
A conceited man denies his weaknesses and and believes without consideration that he has none.
First, they are mostly the same but perhaps an important difference is that…well…feeling proud means you feel accomplished… in some regard. Self-esteem can be a condition that exists without necessarily feeling that you are accomplished in something or in some way (be it smarts, beauty, task, blood line, etc).
Second, don’t forget that men are creatures of emotion and not reason.
Pride is scorn because of feelings… that need not be listed… They mostly stem from people hating the idea that someone could be “better” than they are… or even that someone could think it. People with very low self esteem can be especially sensitive in this regard and can at times lash out at anyone projecting the slightest inkling of pride. In short… it isn’t the effect of reason at work but the exact opposite.
well iman, in every thread i have seen you respond to you sound like you are high and you cant make coherent sentences. so i guess i would rather be called a “hypocrite” by the fool than be the fool himself.
Sorry again to tell you syphon that not only you appear low respecting the queu of the beast feeling pleased of holding tide to it but VERY FOOL as DUMMER all you could say of pride you fucking empty soul is your blind hate showing your truth of not being able to feel the depth but to worship only shapes as your queu that you think as a fountain of success for your dead sense of truth