Sex and Control

Referencing LGBT news articles is not bigotry. Referencing women in context of your comment concerning women is not bigotry.

False accusations are not conducive to productive discussion.

My comments here concern the title of the thread, not the subjects you introduce.

So you lost the main argument so now you create a side argument about how I was misguided for calling you a bigot earlier.

Nice try but this forum is already full of bigots, and you seemed to be chiming in on their side. Not to mention you post things such as this

"Not only is the West excessively sexual, it is irresponsibly so.

If these organizations seek to control sexuality they are doing a terrible job."

In the same post where you post about Western military acceptance of LGBT.

But you expect me to be naïve and gullible and foolishly assume you aren’t bigoted about it.

Yes because the fantasy is that after you buy the product you will not be rejected by women anymore. They profit from males being undersexed.

90% of consumers are women though, that’s their main demographic.

Women are both oversexed and undersexed in Western society

Women’s clothing and cosmetics are marketed in a sexual way. But most other products are not marketed sexually, unless it is marketed to undersexed men to create a fantasy that the product will make them higher status and less rejected by women.

Wow man you really think cable service providers are in league with pornos and that’s the main reason people use the internet, stop clownin. Sure many people upgrade to faster internet for pornos but there is no formal alliance between them and no evidence either. If porn stopped being free, people would still pay for high speed internet for other reasons, such as movies, gaming, work, education and shopping etc.

There is no publicly available data or credible research that quantifies what percent of ISP signups are specifically motivated by access to free pornography . While numerous studies and reports confirm that the arrival of broadband internet made access to online pornography much easier and that adult content is a significant driver of internet traffic, no source provides a direct percentage linking ISP signups to free porn consumption

Because its a fact. Also the word “homosexuality” sounds like a bunch of gays.

I am not saying a bunch of gays. I am saying a bunch of transgenders.

And how do Lions cope with the dystopia of inceldom? By a bunch of gays. I offer a much better upgrade than that. A quarter of the male population becoming trans. Half of the trans can be homosexuals, male lesbians. And One eighth of the males can be cis and date the transsexuals.

This solves inceldom and overpopulation simultaneously. My only wish is for the third-world to embrace this more than the first world. But Nature is backwards, physics is backwards. The more primitive a society is the faster the birthrate it has and the more anti-LGBT it is, and the more poverty and suffering it has. Society is naturally dystopian and higher intelligence is required for utopias. Its part of how Existence exists.

But being a trannie isn’t going to solve male sexlessness. Homosexuality is not the answer.

If you were a lion you would be telling the lions not to be gays

Humans are more intelligent than lions and offer better upgrades than “just be gay”. I offer biological upgrades and chemical upgrades to change your physical appearance, most animals don’t do that, except for a few species.

You and I don’t even agree on the definition of what transsexuality is.

Chicks with dicks are transsexuals. And now all of a sudden you are saying they are not.

My ideal vision of utopia is a Male race of Futarani. You think I am some old-skool transsexualist boomer from the 1970s that demands transwomen have SRS or something.

My vision is there is an entire new Male race called Futarani. The races have all the same races of today, white, black, asian etc. but are Futarani race. And are not simply males on hormones like modern transsexuals, but are genetic engineered males.

This is deeply philosophical. My definition of trans and cis isn’t even the same as mainstream LGBTQ. My definition: Cis males are extroverts, Transsexuals are introverts.

I don’t even stick to rigid definitions all the time. Because existence is so much more complicated than that and not an oversimplification like people want it to be.

There are some cis males who are not extroverts. My opinion, if a cismale is beautiful, handsome etc and gets laid frequently (A male needs to get laid at least once a week to be a man!) Then they are legit cis. If a male gets laid less than once a month, yet claims to be cis, then they are a fool…

If a man has a penis smaller than 6 inches, they are not a man. If a man has sex less than once a month, they are not a man… In fact in Ancient societies masturbation was viewed as fit only for slaves… Because
“real men” got laid so frequently… they had homosexual sex frequently as well… Moderns claim they are not Abrahamic, but their opposition to LGBT is formed by the conditioning of the Abrahamic…

I am actually the ultimate of evolution… maybe not genetically or biologically, but memetically and philosophically. Lightyears ahead of society. Literal lightyears. And I do want to change my physical appearance, to match my superiority. My primitive human form doesn’t exactly convey my utmost superiority yet. And that is yet another facet and tie-in of what I am trying to say, listen closely…

Because the cis men are extroverts. Their brains are about the external. They are not introverted. Thats what cis masculinity is. If a man doesn’t have mechanical skills they are not a man. A man has mastery of the outside physical world. A confident man is because they are an extrovert, and thus get laid. If they don’t get laid they are not a man.

And if the cis men get laid less than once a week but are still extroverts, its because they have lower levels of awareness. They can’t look in the mirror and realize their inferiority. And if they are anti-trans, that means they want to continue the dysphoria for all of society. Wanting men, grown men to have to go around with a 5 inch penis. To live a life with a 5 inch penis, is just sadistic. To have to live a life as an incel and an ogre, is just mean. Existence is a bitch. And I offer salvation with Futarani, offer a chance to give men beauty and a large penis. Yet for this I am resisted by backwards men, who want to stay in the Matrix. Its like how Agent Smith said how the machines gave humans utopia at first, but the humans rejected it! So they made the Matrix worse, ie. modern day modernity, to cater to humans! As I said, if the cis men get laid less than once a week but are still extroverts, its because they have lower levels of awareness…

Because transsexuals are introverts and intellectuals. Because they look in the mirror and contemplate their own reflection. Because physically speaking, a man is usually just an uglier variant of woman. Male development, especially around the age 18-25, uglifies/ogrefies the male appearance. And that is what you and other anti-LGBT bigots want to do. You want to stymie human evolution and keep men ugly and like apes. That is why you define transsexualism as having a penis or not. When I could care less if transwomen have a penis or not. In fact my vision of Utopia is a futarani. And if somehow the researchers in the lab declare they are unable to make the futarani successfully, then I will then settle for anime men, changing genetics to beautiful men. Because i go forward in evolution.

You can “dress it up” however you want – the outcome is the same…

Humans aren’t Lions though. The Human specie already has “solutions” for male-inceldom. It’s called Abraham. It’s called God. It’s called Church. It’s called Arranged Marriages in the House of God. I fail to see how your “solution” is superior to what’s already been tried tested and true for over 2000 years…?

This is why I call upon Satyr. He was/is right. Your messianic ideology, secularized, is Globalized, Globalization. Without even realizing it, you wish death and destruction upon the “Old World”, Eastern Civilization. As-if they don’t have their own cultural Zeitgeists, and relationships with Sex and Sexuality?? Maybe take a trip to Thailand. Enlighten yourself, report back to me your findings…

Hypothetically… I’m still waiting to hear how lean harder left produces better or superior outcomes. I don’t see it. And color me Doubtful. I don’t see how leaning into sexual perversion is going to produce better outcomes.

In Nature, the dominant Male is victorious, passes on His genetics, and the others do not. Hominids are the same. You are proposing more “don’t pass on your genes”, Eugenicist, Anti-population, Anti-natalist rhetoric. That’s common among the Left, not rare!

Yes… because they’re only pretending to be chicks. Dicks give them away. So what is left, except Pretense and Lies? It is, literally, tom-foolery. You need to recognize that Rational minds seek Truth and renounce Lies and Pretense. Western Civilization already has enough Lies. I don’t see how more is helping anybody…

You’re failing to understand how your ideal of Sex is a simulation, a fakery, a mockery, an imitation, a copy of the real thing.

Procreation is Sex. Recreation is not… it’s something else. I don’t even want to call it “Sex”. It’s like a child’s play, a false understanding of the real thing.

Okay Ecmandu:roll_eyes:

Quintessential Leftism… what am I getting wrong exactly? You seek to “replace” natural selection, and heterosexual genetic reproduction. This is a statement about YOU, subjectively. It’s not objective, not even close.

“make a trip to Thailand”

Holy shit we should totally go, FO. My homeboy godelian is over there right now trading crypto, doing foundationalist math, and buying sexy young beasts at unbeatable prices.

Bro, save up your money, man. A fuckin dollar is like a jackson over there. Once our visas expire, we can pay a farmer a modest fee and hide out in his rice patties. At night, we hit the strips, smoke some opium, avoid having our wallets and cameras snatched, enter the street chess tournament, and then purchase escorts who are STD free.

I’m tellin’ you dude one night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble.

There’s no reason we shouldn’t go. We’re both uninvested male anarcho-nihilists on our triumphant marches toward nothingness!

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Still lagging behind and not understanding the basics… Everything you say is usually knee-jerk with a right-wing slant to it.

Thailand already embraces transsexual idealogy.

China and Japan are full of incels.

Why do you define Old World as the East and not the West? I said what I want is LGBT in the third world, not old world. Because third worlders seem to be outbreeding whites by a rate of 5 to 1. Its the West that is at risk from low birthrates.

Also being perpetually subjugated to Abrahamism sounds extremely dystopian. Philosophy should be about truth, above all things. Because reincarnation is true. So that means you die and reincarnate 5 billion times into Abrahamism, is that what you want? To be an infant, teething and then told what to do and raised lies? And forced to go to school and sit in hard chairs like some kind of slave?

This isn’t about politics. You think the average Woke leftist on Discord isn’t gonna instaban me for saying this shit? Most discord leftists are against utopias or any kind of organized coherent ideology. Even the word “futarani” or “chick with a dick” might offend them. Many automatically assume everything is a fetish unless a transwoman strictly undergoes SRS. The average woke leftist on discord is backwards and lagging behind me.

you are lagging behind and not understanding Futarani. My goal is to have Futarani reproduce rapidly and pass on their genes as much as possible.

Again lagging behind. It doesn’t even matter to me if Futarani are called male pronouns, once they become the default form of male.

You talk big about Lies, but you would rather Abrahamics dominate society… I would laugh but I’m not in a jovial mood.

The biggest lie is Bluepill too. They raise males to think they got a shot to shoot their shot. As if beauty is subjective. Get a clue. Women are the one wearing the makeup and pretty dresses. @Ecmandu. Women are a botique dessert. Men are a traditional dinner. BUT with hair covering all the food. Would you eat a steak covered in hair? Steak with hair litterally growing out of the steak? But we are told beauty is subjective and that women, magically have brains wired so differently that somehow they lust for men, even though nobody wants hair on their food. Even though inceldom is obvious and common in society. Even though on craigslist 0 cis women and I mean 0 cis women were offering free sex without payment. Even though there are gay men and transsexuals offering free sex. Why is that, I wonder? Is it cause women’s brains are magically wired to lust for men? Doesn’t seem so to me. And rather than try to adapt and improve, people like RealUn want men to on keep using the same flawed hardware and genetics, over and over like zombies, or some robot that keeps running into a brick wall but doesn’t change their course.

Its like that david bowie song of someone that got laid 1 time their whole life.

Maybe two times, getting pregnant twice is the norm in Western society.

This is just your strange and unique opinion, maybe 0.1% of males agree with this. Its actually a very Female type of opinion. Females “attraction” to males is centered around the males capacity to make babies for them. I don’t want to offend anyone though, because actually its very common for Females to engage in recreational sex, with the top 20% of males.

Why are you still struggling to understand the basics of Futa? They have penises. A penis in a vagina is heterosexual reproduction… They are just a new type of male, not your outdated type of male that looks like an ogre, is hairy all over, has microdick, and is under the yoke of hypergamy…

…because it is? The Chinese and East Indian civilizations are older than Western Civilization. African tribes are (supposedly) older than everybody else. So the turd-world being the Old World is synonymous.

WTF

You, and other Liberals on this forum, keep missing the point. Sex is about children. If a family cannot be maintained, a society cannot be maintained. This shouldn’t be a logical jungle-gym. It shouldn’t be hard to understand. Your idealism does not include the “Traditional” paradigm of a family unit. Hence your ideology is entirely Leftist.

I just see it as having 120+ IQ point. Any intelligent mind KNOWS FOR FACT that sex has consequences. Being “Successful” at it = Children.

No offense, but your romantic idealism hasn’t captivated me or my curiosity. And you’re in my thread, not your own, so the onus is upon you, here, to convince me of it or not.

Watch out for those Thai Lady Boys though, that’s a real thing over there. Don’t want to end up with any chicks with dicks sort of thing.

[Especially inside Bangkok.]

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Could you imagine a week in Bangkok with Trixie, Prom, me, and whomever else came…? LOL

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I can and this is why this issue)s( can be capped;

The left, supposedly , which is really an inverted right ( the Southern states) can use deontological tricks to fool Nixon like China openings , that inverts that paradox, to prove the New Left was automated by bait and switch of asexual framing of compensatory exchanges, I.e. more pleasure for less cost of secure gate crashing.

Example: acid death trips that could and would

futureone:
I just don’t see it that way.

The manosphere started as bluepill and redpill. Bluepill = just be a nice guy. Redpill = be a bad boy.

Blackpill formed after. It is not a nascent stage of the manosphere. If it was a nascent, pre-scientific stage it would just be people projecting their opinions. Bluepill is the nascent stage. Blackpill is the final evolution.

Unbiased observations seem to show that women care most about Looks Money and Status (in that order.) This is the LMS pill part of Blackpill.

Women will seek out twig armed twinks over some hairy bluto ape-man 99% of the time. The twig armed twinks don’t have to message women, women come to them. Chico is not a bad boy he is a pretty boy.

It’s not though. I remember 2010 quite well. That was about the time that ‘blackpill’ took off. It was called “Men Going Their Own Way” MGTOW Movement. That was just before LGBTQ+ and Trannie-ism took off. I never expected that MGTOW would turn out men going their own way–into the women’s bathrooms. Nobody predicted that. Nobody expected USA to one day, to the next, turn into Decadent Rome before the fall.

I’ll tell you why Blackpill and MGTOW doesn’t work… because the leftover males that do participate in female sexual selection “Win”. You don’t win, if you don’t play. You lose. Blackpillers lose. They don’t sexually reproduce. Therefore they go Extinct. This is Nature. This is the ultimate conclusion of “not playing the Game”.

futureone:
As for dogs same thing. The reddit thread was not about women getting brutish dogs for protection. It was about cute dogs and women being attracted to effete men who have tiny cute small young dogs.

>>>Actually the whole thread was saying women had 0 attraction to biker dudes at all whatsoever and that only gay men have attraction to biker dudes (what you would consider “bad boys”.)

>>>Although it is Reddit, so we must take that website with a grain of salt, but they often are correct about various things.

RealUn:
Women with cutsie little dogs are usually upper-middle class or Novelle Riche. They are pretending to be Bourgeois and the wealthy Elite (and failing). That is a different matter of women who keep large dogs, specifically because they fail to find a mate Protector. Upper-middle class women are surrounded by simps and family members, brothers, a father figure, etc. So they don’t really need “Protection” from a sexual mate…

Your statement appears to weave a complex metaphor about political shifts and tactics:

  • equating or inverting traditional left-right political identities;
  • using paradoxical or rule-based strategies reminiscent of Nixon’s diplomatic moves with China;
  • and critiquing the New Left as having been manipulated via subtle exchanges and cultural phenomena (including drug culture) that allowed social change or “gate crashing” with perceived low costs.
  • our reference to “acid death trips” likely references psychedelic experiences emblematic of that era’s social experimentation.

My experience of left-wing political movements shows that while many activists and participants are sincerely motivated by social justice, fairness, and equality, there are also instances where certain factions or groups within the broader left may engage in tactical manipulation to advance their agendas. But this does not mean all individuals or every left-wing movement acts manipulatively, even though there can be instrumental use of social issues for political ends.

However, political manipulation, including deception or strategic use of emotions and social issues, is a tactic that can be and is employed across the political spectrum, not exclusively by the left. The use of manipulation tactics ranges from spreading misleading information, bait-and-switch political strategies, to calculated appeals to identity or grievances.

So, attributing left-wing personalities solely or primarily to manipulation and being manipulated oversimplifies the complexity of political motivations and behaviours.

I’ve said this to you for the Nth time but you still are not getting it.

Repeat after me.

Penises go into vaginas and reproduce. Penis and vagina = reproduction. Futa have penises. Females have vaginas… What does that mean…?

What happens when a penis goes into a vagina? Can you solve this question? Penis + vagina = …?

I know you can do it. We’re all counting on you.

Yes I am leftist. The current traditionalist warmongering Zionist Capitalist status quo is horrible.

But I think you mean something else by leftist, such as Biologically Left.

Yes that’s correct. I don’t view humans as the pinnacle of evolution and I think the male form can be improved. Male bodies can be very sexy but the vast majority of men look like they still haven’t evolved from the ape days.

I can understand the gay man’s attraction to male bodies, but the male faces is what gets me away from the gay lifestyle. Male personality needs to be improved too, too many are jerks and assholes.

Yes but this was known to me, is not new to me, known to me years ago, it is why I am frequently banned by discord troons.

I believe in a Higher Cause, a Futarani cause something to ascend Humanity long term. They merely view “Futarani” as “fetish”. They only value short term gratification, they complain about bigots, then cut off their balls so that future generations will have to deal with bigots and they won’t have to.

And this is your problem as well. Hyperbolic bible thumper zionists are the ones breeding at a faster rate than intellectuals.

That’s always been the case though. Intellectualism is a hindrance to r-selection Sexual Selection. It hinders fast, repetitive breeding. It creates a slowing effect, a delay, in population expansion.

There are two renowned intellect selectors in Human History: Jews, and Japanese / East Asia. Most societies do not favor or reward Intellectualism. Because Intellectualism creates internal divides (Anarchy) in most societies.

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@futureone
@RealUn

This technological transhumanist idealism high competition society cultural wasteland revolving around capitalism is largely a historical anomaly at its peak, eventually it will succumb to its own destruction and all the internal contradictions or inconsistencies will die along with it. It won’t last for long, not very helpful for those of us who currently live inside it, but the black pill should incorporate what women really are and how idealism of romance is nonexistent in this world. Women are sexual capital, nothing more. They will never be anything else.

In every historical era women practically make themselves out to be sexual commodities because they’re incapable of anything else with their emotional often enough misguided feelings completely lacking all logic.

:clown_face:

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..exceptions to rules MrA, exceptions to rules.. always.

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@MagsJ

Very limited small number of exceptions. :clown_face: