Sexual dillemma.

Okay. I want to get as logical and analytical as I can possibly get with this.

So here I am. Please don’t mind me, I live by this cycle where I work like a dog, maybe party a little, and then go on this week or so binge where I spend all my time on internet. I also carry a cynical, depressing attitude spackled with some light nihilism and “it’s okay” speach. Hey, I could be an alcoholic or drug addict, so if this is my only problem group close to serious my whole life, I’ll take it.

But obviously I’m not likely to get laid this way.

Instead of discussing things with peers or whatever, I prefer to broadcast my personal life internationally.

That also probably doesn’t help me get laid.

But then getting laid isn’t such a high priority for me. I really want more of a cuddle buddy, or some steamy foreplay without the sex. My standards are low compared to the average male anarexic chaser. But then I seem to have a problem with girls that get a little psychotic on me. Oh, the stories I can tell.

At the same time I can’t stand the idea that I have to “work for it.” Come on! If there’s a girl who sees what I want and wants the same thing, fuck the dinner and dancing. I hear all these girls on how they just want someone normal that isn’t some stalker. Bullocks. I’m getting convinced that many secretly think a few “abusive boyfriends” puts spice and adventure in their life compared to some loser that would just hang out at a coffee shop.

So whining aside. (Oh sorry, this is probably better in that rant forum here), would it be intriguing to strategize getting laid or similar, given the above conditions. What could be formulated?

Disclaimer: No, this is not a joke. They may seem rude and even absurd, but keep in mind the idea is to get laid, not find a girlfriend. Finding a girlfriend, or ‘how to be the wimpy nice guy and not get laid’ would entail entirely different rules.

For a discussion on a similar issue, see:

http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=151681

Thanks, Daybreak. Oh my god, I’m sorry. I think the dead horse has been pulverised to mush.

Gaia - I could have written much of your OP myself. You may be doomed to a life where no (non-loony) woman will have you. Take it from me. Honesty is the best policy, but it has nothing to do with “love”.

Leykis is very wise.

I do like to have dinner with an attractive woman. Just a quirk.

[i]"So here I am. Please don’t mind me, I live by this cycle where I work like a dog, maybe party a little, and then go on this week or so binge where I spend all my time on internet. I also carry a cynical, depressing attitude spackled with some light nihilism and “it’s okay” speach. Hey, I could be an alcoholic or drug addict, so if this is my only problem group close to serious my whole life, I’ll take it.

But obviously I’m not likely to get laid this way.

Instead of discussing things with peers or whatever, I prefer to broadcast my personal life internationally.

That also probably doesn’t help me get laid."[/i]

Except for the cynical part you, my friend, are inside my brain.

Hilarious.

I laughed all the way through the Leykis list by the way. I get a huge kick out of how getting laid is such a huge priority for men and being loved is such a priority for women. We see getting laid as more as icing on the love-cake.

:laughing:

Course I am married so the getting laid part is only in the portion of my brain that is still single. LOL

Bessy -

That’s surely the official story. Which is why women who feel differently are considered morally reprehensible, by other women.

Men who feel as Gaia does are just considered weak, also by women.

A perfect woman is one who loves sex. Rare jewel, but perfect. An intelligent whore-nurturer. Some will be offended by that but I am right.

this is the general idea yes, but in todays world there is a growing amount of variation on all of this.

Is it really so rare? I tend to believe women love sex just as much as men, though perhaps with a greater tendency to attach emotional significance to it - and even that sounds a bit stereotypical. I’m reminded of the pot scene in Eyes Wide Shut:

As women age, they tend to have hormonal issues which makes sex less enjoyable… it becomes more important for men to become more romantic when they (usually) are less so. Men have no idea how easy it is to arouse sexuality in a woman but they simply don’t get it. I have read more things on ILP to kill a cow of how you guys play games to get us laid - and all you need to do is give us some serious attention. All these games are really stupid.

As I said, most men want an intelligent whore-nurturer and they are rare. Someone who will help you raise your children and be a wildwoman in the bedroom - ask most men. They don’t have that. Do they want that?

Yup.

Also, what they don’t realize is that women hit their sexual peak at middle age, so even though they need more in the head (no pun intended) from their man, the intensity of the arousal is much greater. Like that of an 18 yr old boy.

So many hours, so little time. :sunglasses:

ha ha. I know. It is pretty easy to understand what a woman want, they want what all people want, “not to be used, and to be cared about.” Some attention, duh. Not to be treated like a doormat. duh.

Guys, Listening honestly to a woman will get you closer to getting laid than any other bullshit “plans” or “schemes” will. Most women respond to this. Trust me.

you are a goddamn genious. That is exactly what I want. How the hell can you spell out what I want, But I usually can’t?

. . . are you psychic? :astonished:

Having turned down more women that I’ve actually slept with, I can honestly say that I’ve got nothing of value to add to this topic except pornography, and that’s not allowed here so I’m all out of ideas.

I blame Faust’s sig for this post. You should too.

the picture under your name is pretty close though. the picture itself is the pure definition of love :laughing:

The Hoff would never debase himself by doing pornography (unlike, Arnold Schwarzenegger) so I demand that you retract that comment.

yeah, I crossed the line, that was inappropriate.

My sincere appologies to Hoff.

No, honey… just old.

Is that what your mom told you?

Someone here tried dissing The Hoff? :imp: [-X

This whole Hoff thing is repulsive. Or have I said that already?

Truth be told, I love spending attention, time and money on women. I actually do listen. I can only conclude that I am just not attractive. Women consistently tell me to do that which I would do anyway, and it gets me nowhere. I’m not even trying to get just laid. I suppose theories like mine are just born of bad luck.

There’s no sense in arguing with women about this - they want love and attention and to be listened to and blah blah blah. They just want it from a guy they also want for entirely other reasons, which they themselves evidently do not know.