If one were to aswsume that there is no problem with homosexual actions… and that for a large part sexual interests can be trained… why not program/train yourself to like sexual actions with the same sex as well cause that would broaden your likely hood of finding love and or a relation ship?..by double just about…
cause while it might double the chances of love and a relationship
it halves the chances of babies
And breasts. Beautiful breasts. And no, men’s don’t count.
babies are still possible with todays tech… and with the right drugs men develop boobs hence shemales…
Would make some sense if you really thought it would work. But, you know, why not train yourself to fly by flapping your arms? You’d cover so much more ground, so quickly…
Well, I won’t assume it - I see no problem with homosexuality unless of course it leads one and/or others to harm - no more or less than I would see with heterosexuals - if it lead to harm…abusing one’s sexuality.
Well, I do have a problem with that. Can one actually be trained to be straight if one is let’s say totally gay? One might lie to one’s self, have sex with a man or a women but can one really be that into the person and feel fulfilled sexually or spiritually, for that matter. Why would we even try to be something that we are not? To please society, to be politically correct in that it sometimes is done.
Can a straight man or woman be trained to be gay? And why would one want to be? I myself am totally straight and I cannot ever see myself wanting to be trained to be gay or to have sex with another woman. Why - simply because it is not within my nature, biologically or spiritually speaking, to be with a woman sexually or to be in love with a woman…As far as I am concerned, only a man can offer me what I need and inspire me in that regard though a few women have offered - and I graciously said thanks but no thanks.
Abstract, we can find love by giving love, that agape kind of universal love, for many people, both men and women alike, and we can be in love with the universe.
But, I think that the only way which we can truly love and be inspired and have the kind of relationship which we want and which will work for us, is by being true to our biological natures, to who we think, feel and know we really are as human beings. I don’t think we have a choice in that…though of course perhaps some might feel that they do - perhaps they are simply experimenting.
Anon mentioned the ‘flapping of the wings’. Can a horse flap wings and fly (not speaking of Pegasus here )? Can a bird run in the Kentucky Derby and win? (possibly not a good analogy here
but then again, maybe it is).
Can we really change our natures and be who we are not? Of course, I realize that ‘self’ is flowing and flux - but, and it is a great but - biology and our genes and our personal desires do speak to us and we can only answer the call which has been set up for us. At least, that’s the way I think. Others may think differently.
When we try to be someone who we are not, we run int all sorts of problems, psychologically/mentally, physically, etcertera. I think that a parent who tries to force or ‘train’ his kid - his son or daughter - to be something he/she is not - and some parents do this, out of fear, out of hatred for gays, from an unenlightened antiquated notion and belief from the bible, they are really not loving them nor accepting them nor are they realizing that for that child - they are as normal as they come…just as normal as their straight child. We often misconstrue what we feel as love for simple control and fear…instead of simply supporting, being there and listening…which is love.
Okay, I’m finished rambling now.
I would think thought that it is not the same as flaping wings you don’t have… the wing would metaphorically be the phallus for a man which he does have such as to “flap his wings” or have gay sex if wanted… so it is not a matter of not being able but rather not being willing… so I would ask if one doesn’t see anything wrong with doing and is willing (as one must be willing) then why not by choice will yourself to broaden your horizons…
I go with the axiom “Live and let Live”. If it is someone’s desire to choose that way to, as you say, broaden their horizons well then, more power to them. They must be true to self - at the same time, they have to be responsible where their loved ones, if they have any, are concerned. Do you see this as a frivolous issue to simply be jumped into? Or something that ought to be thought out, in conscious awareness?
We each have our own ways, Abstract, in which we WILL OURSELVES to’broaden our horizons’, - enhance our lives - in which we attempt to experiment and to learn, to grow or to grow out of ourselves into another. We are flow, we are flux…but we can only do this in a way which speaks to us personally…in a way which we feel. I personally feel that if an adult is self-persuaded in the way in which you are speaking, it just might be because ‘something’ is opening up to him/her which was not willingly looked at before - and I might even suggest to him/her a bit of therapy - only because it might become such a life-changing decision - but perhaps I am wrong here.
The wing MIGHT metaphorically be the phallus (but wouldn’t you think it would have to stand for much more than just having a penis, that is: emotionally/psychologicaly,physically/spiritually speaking)? The phallus is a symbol of power, isn’t it? But, metaphorically speaking, this WING might also be a curiosity about black holes or laser beams or oceanograhy or human consciousness or even god. Our muses are multitudinous. But for myself, not to be crass here, the way I look at it, I am just perfectly anatomically correct for a male and would wish for none other.
I tend to think that while genetics inforce some of our decisions if a man grew up in a homosexual society despite having a genetic tendency for heterosexuality the peer presure and training would lead that person to bi-sexuality at the least… so as to say that the consistency of hetero sexuality in our world is largely a peer pressure thing; a result of culture… so while genetics plays a part nurture does as well…
if we reverse this and it were true then it would indicate that at least some homosexuals could be trained away from their tendency…but most likely only if they were willing. while it may not work for many it could work for some…
I can kinda understand how a man can decide that women require too much effort, that it would be simpler just to fuck guys (I hear gays are quite the sexual bunch). All for the party and such. What I can’t wrap my mind around is why they forsake women.
Is it because some primal part of us can’t want a girl if we cannot “be” what they want? That, by renouncing the coy dance of flirtation: “for me to love the tender and soft in you, I first must psychologically act out what is strong and firm in me, but men who would have sex with me don’t need that strength and firmness, they just need willingness to have sex, so I renounce strength and firmness in me and thus wanting the tender and soft in you.”
Maybe gays are a mix of that kind of “horny gay” and the ones that get hooked on the feeling of estrogen in their bloodstream, plus the ones that get bamboozled into wanting the estrogenity in a womanly man when they are really “straight.”
Yes i don’t understand single sexuality … why limit the self… what would make one not interested in the other… unless it is prhaps the role one seeks to play… but then all a gay man would really need is a butch woman…
Single sexuality only makes sense as a term when homosexuality has already been introduced. In other words, a sexualy reproducing species can be (and usually is) only heterosexual, but it cannot be only homosexual.
Homosexuality=Masturbation/Hermaphrodism(physichal and psychological)
Let me try to be more coherent:
To explore alternative sexualities, you either have to be REALLY into using your dick/vajayjay for pleasure, or be into experimenting with the other sex’s hormones.
And you obviously have to be able to overcome the (usually) predominant ESS involving the discrimination of homosexuality.
techniclly a only homosexual desirent race is possible so long as there is sex for at least procreation hetero-style… or some technology to otherwise impregnate… I imagine there could be an alien species that produces pollen thaat impregnate the other sex when homosexual intercourse is performed.
(Well, my point is that it has not happened and does not happen (though, as you hint, who knows what can happen if some of the more primitive organisms decide to start evolving again?))
If I slept with a shemale would it mean I’m gay, bi, or something else?
Because tbh, some of them are hot, and as Abstract pointed out, they have breasts. Beautiful breasts.
In my opinion if a being has male genitalia or ever had male genitalia, they are officially male in my sexual hand book. Whether they have pretty faces or bodies doesn’t matter too me at that point.
I’ve said this before and i know a lot of others would claim it as well, but i’m certain were i female that i’d be gay. The female form is simply how I identify beauty and I can’t see the same thing in a male, the closest i get is in a sense of “huh I wish my body looked like that” or “that guys got a handsome face” more as a hint of envy then of attraction.
Umm, no!