That is not what I said but if that is your best, it is on par with the arguments against me that are not worthy.
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DL
If others are not able to give an argument against then there is no other perspective.
Will you change your mind just because someone says you should without giving an argument?
If you and our other friend here does then you are both fools who would be changing your perspective without a worthy reason.
That is hardly an intelligent thing to do.
Both of you should stay away from dry land in Florida salesmen.
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DL
GIA, I think it is obvious to everyone that you are not a Gnostic Christian let alone a modern Gnostic Christian. I think it is obvious to everyone that you are a Christianity hater.
Secondly, no amount of reason and logic will convince a stubborn person to change their view. One becomes the fool if one tries to do so.
GIA, have a look… Is anyone trying to change your mind? I, certainly am not.
A Gnostic Christian… pull the other leg.
Create a new thread about your new question, and I’ll shoot it down there.
“As above so below” isn’t a Christian principle, “On Earth as it is in Heaven” doesn’t show otherwise, thus the premise of this thread is flawed and the argument you put forward fails- there is no reason to think God would forbid marriage.
Do you agree?
There is no basis for the Position held in the OP.
Any who do not hate those who would oppress them are not worthy of the title of human or moral.
Christianity decimated my ancestors only because they wanted to think there own way about God and Christianity ushered in the Dark Ages and Inquisition to kill us off.
I do not turn the other cheek to murderers who still want to control the thoughts of others by force.
Christianity is a corrupt creed and should be dissolved.
Christians loving their God is like Jews loving the German S.S.
Any who love a genocidal son murderer are not worthy of the term believer. That includes all Christian believers
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DL
Not when he definitely does not allow it in heaven.
If you could shoot down an idea, you would. It would be silly to begin a new O.P. for all ideas so your deflection is duly noted.
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DL
Sounds like you live a sad life, I am glad I am not as full of hate as you. I am glad I do not throw away my life like you.
If there is no marriage of souls in heaven then it just means there is a difference. Some countries drive on the right side of the road, others on te left. What is here is for this place. Marriage is about children, family not sexual partners. Its for establishing a protective home.
Greatest I am,
If you are familiar with Genesis, it seems that marriage had two clear and closely related functions and was not intended to be a permanent institution. Procreation and companionship. Procreation had a definite purpose as was written in Genesis. 1.28 “Be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth”. This implies that in the absence of death once this goal was achieved procreation would come to an end.
You are assuming that life after the resurrection will be a continuation of life as we know it now.
Hmm. People who cannot reproduce do not divorce just for that cause.
People who marry often know that they cannot reproduce so your motive for marriage is just one of many.
youtube.com/watch?v=ZZZ6QB5TSfk
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DL
I do not believe in a physical resurrection but it is Christian beliefs that I am looking at.
“He who is unmarried cares for the things of the Lord – how he may please the Lord. But he who is married cares about the things of the world – how he may please his wife” (1 Corinthians 7:32-33).
“This implies that in the absence of death”
We have never lived where there is an absence of death. Thank all the Gods. If we live, as you imply, there would be no need to create new life and that would be like living in a stagnant pool as no new information would ever be created That would be mental death even for a God.
You have forgotten what God did to A & E for gaining the information they needed to procreate. He murdered then through neglect and forcibly keeping them from what would have kept them alive. The tree of life.
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DL
The Bible says that there is no marriage in heaven, because the fundamentals that give it meaning (male, female, procreation) won't exist there, not that God has forbidden it because there is something wrong with it. Again, you don't know what you are talking about, and you've made a false argument based on flawed premises and a misunderstanding of basic Scripture and Christian principles.
Why are you so critical of a religion you demonstrably know nothing about? Since you’ve been here you’ve learned that so many, many of the problems you’ve had with Christianity were based purely on your own misunderstanding and not anything to do with the faith itself. And yet your resentment remains as strong as ever. One almost gets the impression that your hatred of Christianity is irrespective of the facts, and what you are doing here is being an insult comic who disguises his jokes as arguments. Since no human being mentally competent enough to operate a computer could resent Christianity for the kinds of reasons you present in threads like this, maybe you should create a thread about your REAL grievances instead of these made up ones…since they clearly aren’t working.
People marry for love first and if children come from it then well and good.
Procreation is not the sole or most important part of why people choose to marry.
As in the case of gays, love is.
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DL
Good for you and your opinions of marriage. Again, the Bible says marriage won’t exist in Heaven because the prerequisites aren’t there, not because there is something wrong with marriage and it is being condemned. You disagreeing with those prerequisites has nothing to do with anything, the relevant point is that you have absolutely no reason to assert that God forbids marriage, and thus the premise of this thread is defeated.
It was defeated long ago and GIA has even admitted that this is a hate based thread. It would appear that GIA’s approach is counterproductive to what he actually wants to achieve.
Yes and no. You have to understand that this is a small part of what GIA is doing. What he's doing in total is coming up with these threads, and then spamming them far and wide to a variety of websites. Do a Google search for his thread titles sometime, and you'll see that he's spreading them everywhere. His name changes, his avatar is usually consistent. So just because there are one or two people on these forums that are capable and willing to refute his points doesn't mean there is somebody like that on the Christian community center forums, or the video game forums, or whatever other forums he is spamming. A good number of the forums he spams are so sympathetic to his ideas that he will receive support and encouragement there, no matter how poorly-researched or deceitful his arguments are- so the universal rejection here will be weighed with the applause he receives on the drug forums or the anti-theism forums.
Honestly the only reason he replies to us is to keep his thread title bumped to the first page- that we've refuted his points is probably completely irrelevant to his goal of saying something crude about Christianity, and making sure many people see it. This is graffiti for him, not a discussion. So you have to decide for yourself if, knowing that, he is worth responding to.
People marry for love first and if children come from it then well and good.
Procreation is not the sole or most important part of why people choose to marry.
As in the case of gays, love is.
Regards
DL
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Good for you and your opinions of marriage. Again, the Bible says marriage won’t exist in Heaven because the prerequisites aren’t there, not because there is something wrong with marriage and it is being condemned. You disagreeing with those prerequisites has nothing to do with anything, the relevant point is that you have absolutely no reason to assert that God forbids marriage, and thus the premise of this thread is defeated.
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You made up your own list of pre-requisites then state that they are in heaven. I am willing to see the quotes you have in mind. Nowhere that I know of does scriptures talk about sex in heaven nor of if procreation can happen there.
Further. Does — he shall rule over you — sound like marriage to you?
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DL
I haven’t cited any Scripture that you didn’t bring into it at the beginning of your thread- Jesus’ discussion of marriage, and the Lord’s Prayer. The Lord’s Prayer doesn’t contain a ‘as above, so below’ clause, and Jesus’ discussion of marriage doesn’t forbid or condemn marriage, so your argument has no basis in reality.
You’ve been outed as ignorant again, time to let this thread die and start another one, wouldn’t you say?
There is a word for people who spread hate… fundamentalists. I am not too concerned what a person believes or does not believe but the spreading of hate is fundamentalism. It is clear that GIA does this and it is clear that GIA is not a Gnostic Christian. Just a hate-monger. People have the choice to follow his train of thought or not. At the end of the day GIA will die and in no way whatsoever would he have got even close to achieving his goal. That is a sad existence for a human being to go through. If what you describe is true then he spends a large proportion of his life on forums. How sad and such a waste of his own life. Of all the things he could use this rare and precious life for… this is his choice (only to eventually lose his battle).