Should the age limit for porn be 18?

What should the age limit be for viewing porn?

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Why is it that a 16 year old is allowed to bring a child into this world but isnt allowed to have pleasure by watching porn. Its almost as if the government is saying “Well sure you can have children but your not allowed to have pleasure”. The age consent is pointless, teenagers all over get a hold of porn somehow before the age of 18 sometimes even at 13. I personnaly think that the age limit should be lowered to 16. What are your views and are there any moral reasons for keeping the age limit at 18?

that shit will rot your brain

As soon as you are old enough to appreciate it.

How the hell does someone appreciate porn? Is pornographic imaging an art form that makes you stop and use your mind to analyze what you’re looking at? Last I recall, it is designed subjectively to trigger the carnal desires of those seeing it, nothing more.

For exampleThe Clockwork Orange is not porno.

I can understand the porno ground for exaltation, addiction… I know couples use porn as a stimulate before a shag, and wankers use porn as a wank, but who actually apprieciate porn? Appreciation as for art? Appreciation as for gender differences is understandable though, but porn is hardly that refined… xander, just make sure the wife isn’t present…

The same way that one appreciates anything.

You can appreciate art, you can appreciate a meal, you can appreciate your friends, etc. Basically you value it and are grateful for it.

Some people will never appreciate porn no matter what. It is just not in their temperment. While a signficant number of men appreciate it when they reach puberty.

Alas terms like “porn” or “art” have no universally accepted definitions. They are both fuzzy categories. Porn does not usually inspire analysis, except perhaps from its critics.

:smiley: Frankly, I do not enjoy watching people enjoying sex, I would rather be enjoying it myself rather than watching. Also, my significant other and I do not need directions. :wink:

An intriguing point you have made, yet open-ended it remains. I suppose then we should go on to seek a universally accepted definition of “porn” and “art.”

Without looking at any dictionary, I’ll go ahead and offer a plausable definition for porn. Porn: A slang word for pornography which is a photographic image designed to attract and stimulate sexual pleasure in the brain.

Well some porn is definatly better than other porn. The fact that there is a qualitative value ascociated with it means that it can be apreciated. I can apreciate realy good porn because its better than the rest… How is it better? Well the girls are really hot, and the camera angles make them look even better. And some sexual positions turn me on more than others, so I can apreciate choice of position… Yea… See, porn can be apreciated!

Btw, about the age limit of porn, its a realy arbitrary decision, because some kids are mature enough to watch it at 10, some are mature enough to watch at 13, some 16. It really should be left up to the parents is my opinion.

Well here are some limitations that apear in your definition. First you limit it to photographic images. So paintings, drawings, scuplture, texts and all other media are excluded.

Second you place the focus on the intention of the designer. Lets take a hypothetical example. Lets say that we have a man who is sexually aroused by women’s shoes. So he takes a series of photographs of shoes that stimulate sexual pleasure in his brain. For other viewers these pictures promote zero sexual pleasure in their brains. Are the photos pornography or not?

Then we can look at it another way. What if it is not the intention of the creator but the impact on the audience that makes something pronographic? Then we can take a different hypothetical example. Suppose a father takes a picture of his 5 year old daughter naked after a bath. He finds zero sexual stimulation from the picture but other people might find it sexually stimulating. Is the photo pornography or not?

Porn portrays adult fantasies in a visual medium. Some of these fantasies are disturbing to certain adults, but the average adult has enough life experience to differentiate between fantasy and reality. A 16-yr-old boy watching a porn film involving a woman happily having anal sex with a man she just met may not realize that this situation is “fake”, and may develop the false impression that women enjoy having anal sex with men they have just met. What if the kid watches rape porn or BDSM porn…? Will his hormone-addled brain be able to reason that the people are performing or will he think women like “rough sex” and that “no really means yes”.

Parents and society should make sure these teens know about birth control and both should discourage unsafe sex. Other than this, we can’t do anything to stop kids from having sex if they are determined enough.

We can at least give it our best effort to let children be children and save them from exposure to porn until they can process it appropriately.

Shyster,

I wonder about this whole idea of teenagers or children lacking the ability to differentiate between fantasy and reality. I wonder about this especially as it relates to mass media such a television or movies.

Do we really consider young people to be incapable of discerning the real from the fantastic? If that is the case then don’t we as a culture have to do more work in education to develop critical thinking skill?

If young people are despite our best efforts, simply incapable of telling the difference between fantasy and reality then don’t we have a lot more protective work to do? What about the fantasy of sitcoms that teach that ever problem can be solves quickly and at the end of ever problem everything returns to its former state? This is not a realistic depiction of problem resolution or the consequences of life.

If young people lack this capacity then can we risk exposing them to any fantasy that they might mistake for reality?

This is a good point, but i feel i need to challenge it. There are countles action flicks, sci-fi shows, ect… that portraly violence as common, to be expected, and fun to engage in. that doesnt mean that the countless number of young people who watch these shows will go and start hitting people for little reason, or reasons that are obvioulsy unrealistic.

Also, I would like to challenge the basic “evil” of porn. what is so bad about it that it is taboo and even illigal for many.

Is it because the it will hurt the girls with STD’s and pregnancy? Well bummer. But unfortunatly, that will happen anyway, and isnt even appliccable to many types of porn.

Other then that and shys reason, i cant really think of any reason at all that porn should be controlled.

there should be no age limit other than what a child’s parents decide.

As for wards of the state, i’m sure someone can work up a plan of porn as a reward for doing well with academics. (post puberty, of course).

Again, let parents decide, not the state. If a 16 year old can’t figure out that such material is fake, that isn’t the fault of the material.

Also, such arguments have been used before and never stand up well. Porn does not cause sex offenses; sex offenders cause it, and may or may not be aroused by porn.

The crowbar is not the criminal.

I’m not sure there’s an age limit for viewing porn. It’s 18 to buy it in most places, and illegal to show it to a minor, but a 14-year-old whacking off to his dad’s playboy stash isn’t illegal (as far as I know or can tell).

Also, not a whole lot of parents are ever going to “decide” that it’s ok for their kid to watch porn anyway. Watching porn usually isn’t a social activity the way drinking or smoking or driving can be. I mean, what kind of sicko wants to watch porn with his parents? Or kids? Better for the gov’t to set a reasonable age limit (16 or 18 or whatever) and let the kids get what they want without having to involve parents once they’re past a point where it’s likely to hurt them.

You guys arguing for parental consent are weird.

-Cdubs-

LOL, good point. But I wouldent trust the government to set the time on my sprinklers, much less when my kid could watch porn. no, when someone is mature enough to do something varies so much theres no way for a government to even get close for most people. they could pick a reasonable average, but would most likely be years off in most cases, resulting in someone being exposed to porn to early (still unlikely in my opinion) or being frustrated because it would e harder to obtain (not impossible, any 16 year old kid with a computer can will quickly build up a larger collection of porn then most 30 year old men). either way, not a good situation. That of course leavs us with the probolem of:who decides then? best solution i have is that they could get a card of password or something of the like, issued by parents or teachers, to allow them to purchase porn. Im more then open to better ideas though.

I can see how someone might appreciate porn just for that beauty of the human body and sculpture-like forms that the intertwined bodies make.

I once saw a dildo-cam videoing rapid movement inside of someone’s colon and this did not inspire my aesthetic sensibilities.

Really though, porn is not for the young, it can be for the middle, and again is not for the old.

Porn is anal sex! Well, I mean anal retentive sex. It is very technical in nature and has no passion. It’s all about positions and angles and shaved bits and breast and penis sizes and how many holes can be filled and so forth.

If the young see this then they miss out on that first idealized love. Instead they run the risk of constant masturbation and or placing excessive demands on their first girl/boy. Instead of their first kiss they will be harkening back to their first anal rimming. On another note, they may be busy masturbating so much that they never get rimmed at all.

The older have had their bouts with love and are now bored. So, they need porn to inspire and help them explore new sexual frontiers. If you are lucky you will have someone, or buy someone, to try these things out with. After you have done all of these things then you will be…

Old, and when you are old porn will then become boring as you have done all of that and seen all of that many times. Then, you can settle down with a nice girl and do a little missionary, a little oral, and a little doggy and know the meaning of the word goodness.

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As far as Christian values and family values are concerned, all porn should be banned regardless of its recreational value.

Sex is a private business and should be kept in the bedroom. Porn corrupts the young, it objectify women. All interested in porn are nothing but perverts. It gives the false impression that sex is all a woman can provide.

I have a theory that religion created porn by making a normal body function that anyone could see in a barnyard something dirty and private. Watching porn should be like watching two people eat breakfast.

The biggest danger from is porn fashion and porn boredom.