Would becoming nothingness count as The soul? If we become nothingness we are for One ‘indestructible’ and for two ‘immune from ever dying again’ almost a sense of immortality.
I don’t believe in a temporal or ‘humanly’ existence after death. People, it’s the end of everything you’ve ever known. It’s the end of the personality and the end of the ego.
Your second sentence here throws me off terribly. You say “if we become nothingness we are for One ‘indestructible’…”, but right there you already have a problem. If we become nothingness then we are no longer a thing. View it on a time line. At point 1 we have me. I’m doodling along and then BAM, at point 2 I become nothing. At this point I don’t cease to be me, I simply cease to be. Therefore its of no use to talk about what properties I have when I become nothing, b/c it doesn’t make a bit of sense.
You’re problem, I think, has to do with your equivocation of the word becoming. For there is a becoming in the sense of adding putting oats together in a pot to become oatmeal. Then there is a becoming in the sense of taking oats out of the pot, where then we just have the pot. Think addition and subtraction.
I could be wayyyy off and somebody tell me if I am so I can improve. Maybe I’m just misunderstanding you. I’m an amateur.
poolie, haha, yeah, ok, let me answer your question. before you write something about nothingness makes sure it has nothing to do with ‘something’ or ‘properties’ in relation to nothingness. You’ll get drilled every time.
What I meant was: You know you will end up nothing therefore you will, Those that know they will be doomed to hell or its equivilent will end up with agony etc…, Those that know they will end up in heaven or its equivilent will end up with no agony, etc… Then there are those of us that know we will end up learning and exploring the universe and beyond when our cohesive sentient energy leaves these physical bodies ,not confined to a space or nothingness.
You determine what you are or what will happen. Noone or nothing else can. Belief means doubt. Knowing means no doubt. If you know beyond a shadow of doubt, that you will totally cease, then you will. I sincerely hope you enjoy it, if that is possible.
This topic - the topic of nothingness - has come up for you time and time again. For the sake of us at ILP, please formally tell us how you’re conceptualizing “nothingness”.
Is it:
an actual “thing”,
or
a word we use to refer to the absence of a thing?
This should make a difference to you. If you mean 1), then for you the soul exists, but if you mean 2), the soul, at least as you’ve defined it, can’t exist.
Well Gib lets look at it from a pratical view. If you are fully convinced you are a faliure will you ever be able to succeed? No.
As you pass from this world and you know you are doomed to hell or its equivilent you will leave this world fearful, hurt, angry etc… These are your last emotional bursts and thoughts. If we leave our body as a soul/ energy form, our soul will hold the form of our last knowledge of self. So, being in pain, hurt and angry do you really think its going to be pleasant? You know that you are doomed to suffer, so in light of being convinced you will, you will suffer. I am probably not saying this right or clearly so I apologize but, it is as simple as the old phrase “you are what you eat”