# sign and symbol logic

Why do we need a “symbolic” logic when we have the signs of speech and of writing?

A simple question from a simple man.

mrn

Aren’t symbols a sign of writing?

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for the same reason we have algebra…

in some cases, it is simpler to use, nothing more

-Imp

Because symbolic logic is more closed than the ever-deconstructing rhetoric of normal speech and writing. It is simpler to use when asking certain kinds of questions.

Language is often rife with ambiguities.

Of course by the same token, symbolic logic is often bereft of ambiguities.

They are both pretty problematic when you get down to it.

Now try to capture the full meanings of these sentances with symbolic logic and you will see why it so greatly clairifys/impoverishes discourse.

I suppose you wanted me to say more in my opener. But there has been a lot said and used on the forum about symbolic logic, and I thought the opening itself was provacative enough (from my side at least) to elicit responses to work from…and it was.

It seems to me in gaining simplicity, it loses meaning. It seems to me it is easier to think using words, which have certain relations and easily evoke meanings through which one can think, than to reduce everything to variables as if they were simple quantitiies, which universals are not.

Tell me if this is not the case. Define apple as A and health as B. You can look at A’s and B’s on paper a long time, but it’s only in contemplation on their meanings that you realise the relation of one to the other. Or does symbolic logic allow for contemplation and for visits to the world of meaning?

never taken symbolic logic in my life, but heard bad things about it,
(kind-of like religion in some posts on here)
mrn

symbolic isn’t terrible… kinda like calculus for math majors… just a different (symbolically) way to write propositions and analyze arguments…

-Imp

A “particular universal”? Like a species under a genus, or an individual example? Or maybe the “concrete universal” of literature?
Just your normal natural everyday universal apple that is cogitated.
(Plus I wanted to keep my Macintosh happy. It’s happily humming and glowing)