i give up…the people around me insist that god is a guy…they are saying he can be manipulated thru prayer if he chooses…
ok so the judeo-christian god is a very personal type god who knows everything and can do everything…
i am not an atheist but this view is not acceptable to me…so where do i go…if these people knew what my thoughts were i would be shunned…i dont shun them for their thoughts…
i am not part of the gang…
Don’t fret about it, my Theological views are very different from the common Judeo-Christian Idea.
There are plenty of religions with God as a gal, or God as both/neither. There are even Christians who do not take the maleness of God as a given.
what i have a problem with is god being a person…
i am a christian…i am not an atheist…but i am shunned at church…
Little reptile, I did not even know that you are a christian.
It’s very difficult sometimes for people to get away from their preconditioning and beliefs.
If there even is that special kind of Something - it has no gender - it would be more perhaps like Light and/or Energy or the air which we breathe or the wind that upholds the seagulls when they are gliding through the skies…yet not Light or Energy or the air nor the wind…and yet perhaps all of the same.
To many, this something we have named God is either a ‘he’ or a ‘she’ - depending on just how close or distant people are to their parents. Down with gender!!! At least in this regard…only in this regard. 
Perhaps if a god became genderless, we might then become closer to its reality - if it is, in fact, a reality.
I am a Christian who believes God is all human relations–male, female, neuter; otherwise we would not know what God is or be aware that we are in God’s image, which is trinite (He, she, it). If God speaks to anyone it is with the knowledge of a unity that is beyond our mental distinctions and philosophical polarizations. God would speak knowingly, not schizoid.
i need to make my op more clear…i am not having a problem about the sex of a god…i dont believe in a personal god…but i am chistian and not an atheist…
Theistic philosophers like Richard Swinburne of University of Oxford, claim that God is neither male nor female. But, they insist that God is a personal being, that is, an individual with basic powers to act intentionally, purposes and beliefs. If we claim we believe in God, but deny that God is a person, and wish our belief to be intelligible by others, it is incumbent upon us to explain in what sense what we believe in is God.
As a Christian, do you not believe in Jesus as savior and all that jazz? If so, how do you not consider him a personal God?
I think you’d like Epicurus’ or Spinoza’s conception of God. In fact, Spinoza was ostracized for his beliefs.
In my opinion God is genderless, it (as opposed to he) cannot
be said to be ‘a’ being, nor being itself.
The best word to describe God is, to me: nothing.
God should be refered to as nothing because its totally beyond
the grasp of human intellect.
God is like “nothing” in human experience (I would think).
Whatever was there before the, so called, Big Bang (I have
no idea what existed pre-Big Bang, but nothingness can’t make
a big bang(?))Is what I would call God. Since this God (nothingness, or whatever)
spawned the universe, via the Big Bang, I would think that the
entire universe is a, kind of, over-flowing of God.
So God is nothing, yet God is everything.
That’s how I see it anyway.
I was called the anti-Christ for the following questions of a brother that’s still in the Christian cult I use to be in :
Me: “So God is a male?”
Him: “Yes”
Me: And He’s a King that sits on His throne?"
Him: “Yes”
Me: “So God has an ass to sit on His throne?”
Him: “Yes.”
Me: “And God is a male King with an ass?”
Him: "Yes.’
Me: “So God has a dick.”
Him: In anger, "You are the anti-Christ.
Me: -evil laugh- then just belly laughing
He will no longer talk to me…
nnnnnnnnnnooooooooooo felix---------absolutely false…how can you rationally say such a thing about god…no one knows enough to make an explanation about god…i know what god is for me…what would you say “to explain in what sense what we believe in is g`od”…can you do it???
It is not a question of knowing enough to explain God. It’s a question of explaining what you believe. Theists include personhood in their definition of God. The everyday common understanding of what God is includes that He [yes—in the everyday common understanding of God it’s a He even though theologians claim otherwise] is a person who has a will, issues commands, acts, makes decisions, loves, thinks. etc. So, I’m stipulating that if you don’t believe that then if you want to be understood by others, it is up to you to explain how you justify calling what you believe in God. If you don’t, then the rest of us don’t know what you are talking about or why you call it God.
The problem has never been one of explaining God.
The problem has always been, and still is, in you understanding what is being explained.
Thus it has been left merely to faith.
James --Who are you referring to as you in the second sentence? turtle doesn’t believe God is a person. Is God a person or not? If God is not a person, then what is God?
Life has a way of teaching the obvious to those who really want to get it. What is God you ask? That’s the easiest of all questions to answer. It’s a simple matter of realizing this: as below, so above (note that it is turned around from the usual saying). Just look at this world of man, the way it is made up, the structures, the collectives, how “power” accummulates in certain hands; how bureaucracies lord it over the rest, how corporations exploit and oppress - because they have the power to do so - I could go on, but that should be enough about observation. Then there’s the books, the ever-present books that talk about all that god stuff ad nauseam and ad nauseam. Is the Bible still the number one best selling novel on the market? Probably.
What do we know about God? We know that no one can agree exactly as to what God is, yet it is said that over 90% of the Earthian population believes in “god” in some way or other. So there has to be god, something, someone, somehow, or 90% of mankind is certifiable but we also know that it cannot be accurately described and that because the concept is not understood. There is a block that prevents Earthians from seeing their “god” and that is deliberate obfuscation through programming.
What has authority over and possesses the power of life and death over others is god. God is Money. God is government. God is religion. Here, those who have the power can decide who lives, who dies. God exercises that exact prerogative.
An interesting quote from the false apostle, Paul of Tarsus. He let slip that “our struggle is not against flesh and blood but against the powers, against the authorities, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” Plurals. In the OT god shows up here and there and it’s often in the plural. “Us” “Our” or “We.” God is a power system made up of a top-down hierarchy and a vast bureaucracy. God is a very old aspect of the Matrix that rules and controls this universe.
Once the Earthians figure it out, that there is no “one” god but that “god” is power, that will be one real giant leap for mankind and the practical struggle to evolve mentally and spiritually will actually begin for the entire species. Meanwhile they build more churches and temples and run from pew to chair to bench to bleacher and listen to every wind of doctrine from every snake-oil salesman until some emotion kicks in, they become “born again” and get baptized to re-spread a worn and tattered gospel that wouldn’t tickle a muskrat’s fancy. Their faith is a placebo.
God is no more omnipotent than any earthian dictator and his enforcement goons. God is no more omniscient than say, Google search. God is really big on advertising. God doesn’t save: that’s the sales pitch. God is not one individual but a hierarchy of power constantly shifting, changing, re-adjusting in order to stay in power for as long as it can. And power is the name of the game and the only game in town.
i said i was having a problem with god being a person…to try explaining god any further tends to destroy god…
Here’s a quote from Fromm (1976) you might enjoy, Turtle.
“In a letter to E. R. Jacobi, Schweitzer wrote that ‘the religion of love can exist without a world-ruling personality.’”
i like that Ierr…
that is what i am trying to say…
when god is made into a person it attacks the very foundation of my faith and my god…and to try to explain my god is to degrade god in my eyes…
i cannot stand the majority view of god…especially the old testament…i dont want to live in the dark ages…
Help me to understand here, little reptile.
Do you believe in a god?
If you do believe, but not in a personal god - deism - how do you count yourself to be a christian?
By definition, in order to live as a christian you would believe in a personal, triune god.
But perhaps you are simply talking about living your life in the way that, more or less, adheres to christian teachings, though you may not believe in a personal god or christ…which might make you more christian than those who do not live that way.