social feminization

This is a hot topic and I want to capitalize on your focus and emotional investment to direct the conversation to practical understanding.

Women are mostly social beings and contrary wise Men are mostly rational beings

Social beings are submissive to and preserve externally established norms

Rational beings establish and question all norms

Human social order is a necessity (a family is an example of a social order)

Most humans are both social and rational beings

The more pervasive a social order is perceived, the more pressure beings have to socialize within that order

If a social order has monopoly on all means and production, humans are forced to socialize within that order

As a child, social order is perceived as completely pervasive and to hold absolute monopoly on all means

As one grows and becomes more physically capable and rational the perception of any one human social order is perceived as less pervasive and in conflict with other social orders

Further, it is realized that social orders cannot hold all monopolies on means and production against a rational being

As one becomes more rational, one also becomes less socialized to any externally established norms

That is, a rational being follows internal norms even though some of those norms may have been externally established

If a rational being feels an externally established norm is not rational he will not follow it and may seek to destroy or weak the social order that enforces it with respects to any monopolies of means and production relative and enforceable to that norm

Smaller social orders have less monopolistic pressure over means and production

Smaller social orders give men more monopolistic power over means and production because individualized men are stronger and more rationally capable of securing means and production than women within said small social orders

That is, the differences of men and women in small social orders becomes an important issue as there abilities to secure means and production cannot be easily equalized; as the man is stronger and more rational, the woman is weaker and more emotional. This fact can be more ignored in larger social orders because a womans performance will not effect the overall means and productions of the entire group except in specific functions… which also highlights the idea that in larger social groups ones capabilities are more specialized which makes the overall abilities of a man meaningless in comparison to a woman…

women have an inherent dependency on the means and production of individual men in small social orders

Men in small social orders create the norms of the social order and have the ability to enforce them with respects to their monopoly on their own means and production

Population density is proportional to the pervasiveness of any social order, and it’s monopoly on means and production, and it’s enforceability to it’s established norms

Men have more pressure to be social and less rational in dense populations

Women’s social nature is not effected by dense populations. They are still subject to externally established norms… they just aren’t subject to the externally established norms of their own mate (unless that is the populations social norm), as the man cannot hold a monopoly on means and production, as his unique abilities are not only suppressed they are made meaningless.

Suppression of men over time in extremely dense populations results in a man that from selective breeding pressure is inherently less rational

The irony though is that rational beings are the source of innovation, invention being the primary and underlying mode which secures means and production

Another irony is that when after centuries of selectively breeding out rational men the social order of dense populations ends up enforcing the established norms of a woman’s mate! That is when the men loose most of their rational abilities it is then that the women are subjected to them in their own house.

So another irony is that only in highly dense populations with rational men can women have any power in a society. And yet this very things is the object of the destruction of rational men, and yet when they are destroyed the women loose all of their power.

We can safely say that women do not naturally have power in any society over a long time. Whether in rural areas the women are inherently subjected to men, or in highly dense areas where it may take centuries to kill off the real men the women then end up being fully subjected again.

Hence, only at the expense of men do women have any power in this world.

The last irony we will add is that once the rational men are done away with any society will become like a third world nation over time. Remember that is because it is the rational men who are the source of innovation and therefore the REAL source of means and production.

Arguing in the eyes of a woman proves that you need her APPROVAL and are therefore weak!!!
Truth can be socially expensive. As social beings, women never argue to find the truth.

Lets take this further, Arguing in the eyes of a social order (or it’s agents, or enforcers) proves that you need that social orders APPROVAL and are therefore weak.

REAL arguments can only occur between rational beings who are not dependent on each other; TRUTH can only be found through the dialogue of free rational beings!!!

The internet is a place of dialogue where people can communication who have no means and production dependencies on each other.

Pumping women with the phobia of loosing APPROVAL makes them feel safe, protected, and secure!!! In this way you can create the norms of your own social order.

Women need the security of knowing they can loose approval if they disregard core values. This is a natural instinct they have. If you cannot prove that they can loose your approval than you are not a man. This is the primary issue facing Caucasians today.

Caucasians are where the most rational men exist, and yet each day city states become larger and larger and more dense where people are leaving the rural areas. Only to destroy rational man!

Women may think they have benefits not being under a man’s dominion but deep down in their instinct it is want they truly desire. And further their freedom will only last until the last rational man is dead.

You could establish your own social order by promoting the idea to others that they requires your approval in one way or another; whether you have any ability to enforce through means and production or not! For example religion establishes norms by projecting phobias of loosing paradise or in some religions burning forever.

There is no way a woman or man can test such a teaching and therefore verify such an social order is enforceable. Usually such social orders become enforceable as their numbers increase and therefore start to monopolize the means and production.

Why am I a Christian than? Well I have seen Sodom and Gomorrah, and Noah’s Ark, and the evidence of the flood which killed many… enforcing the social order of the heavens, shall we.

I can prove that God can kill, But I cannot prove that God can resurrect (nor punish forever; which I don’t even believe).

So, God’s social order is enforceable and I could also prove the benefits of following his norms, as a rational internal knowing. Where I have agreed with God’s plan and social order rationally his norms become mine (spirit of the law), and then when I do not understand a norm God want’s I have the fear of his enforcement. But it is preferred that I become more rational to be able to understand and prove where God’s laws are correct.

The social order only needs to be perceived as pervasively controlling benefits to the members or else have enforceable means.

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Another interesting thing;

Women do not argue with a man or do things against his established norms because they actually care about the argument or even care about breaking the norm.

They only do this when they are not convinced you will retract your approval. They are testing whether or not you are really a man! This is a very natural process, inherent in their instincts… how else will they find real men?

Here is a simple example. Let say you let your girl know you like curly hair. She currently has curly hair, but as soon as you let her know of your norm, the next day she has straight hair… and then she proceeds to ask you whether you like her new hair due.

A “nice guy” will say of course I love your hair babe. But in reality he has just communicated to her that he is not a man. And she will continue testing him and may escalate in more arguments and contrary behavior… until she is absolutely convinced the idiot is not a man.

A “bad boy” will say what the f… where you thinking b!tch. lol And she will know that his approval can be taken away. This is why women like such men.

Then you have simply a rational man that understands psychology;

A “rational man” will take a step back (social punishment) and say you know I prefer curly hair… and walk away or intentionally get distracted or find something more important than her.

There are all sorts of subconscious techniques like taking a step back to establish the necessity of APPROVAL with regards to your norms. They are almost invisible and they do not require physical or emotional violence.

But they MUST BE USED if you are a man.

Another mistake that “nice guys” make is they get all lovey dovey when a girl starts acting like a b!tch… “come here honey, I didn’t really mean it” But all you are doing it training her that you will not remove your approval is she violates your norms.

Get lovely dovey WHEN SHE IS obeying your norms NOT when she is breaking them.

It is honestly a sad thing that I had to learn this on my own and was not educated in the real psychological differences between men and women, in youth. I am lucky that I have become aware of this at the age of 26. Now all women that I deal with know that I am a man. And they find it very attractive. Though they may not be rational of the process (it is in their instinct).

Most men are so sexually obsessed that they are afraid to even suggest conditional APPROVAL to a women. This is why so many relationships are backwards… it is honestly not because of women, but rather it is because of men who are not use to actually being men. They are so use to socializing to externally established norms they don’t understand the sexual necessity of creating norms and having conditional approval.

This once again brings us back to the issue of population density… as dense city states socialize men, and therefore take away their manhood.

I suppose one could live in a city state and educate men on the differences of female and male sexual psychology. That may be a solution. Or, given the fact that most humans aren’t very intelligent to actually use an education… it may be best to have them simply live in a rural setting and therefore naturally exhibit the correct sexual psychology.

If it were interesting, you wouldn’t have to spam your own thread to bump it so someone might take notice [-X

“Hot” as the topic may seem to be, I suggest you let it go for now and try again once you’ve completed puberty.

:laughing: @ Ingenium

I concur.

Satyr will you help me develop practical applications and techniques that can be used with the proper understanding of male female sexual psychology?

Or at least comment on what I have thought up?

I thought of another idea;

Every single time a woman even starts to argue with me, I will take a step back (social punishment) and end the conversation one way or another and put my attention some where else.

In this way I can condition women to never argue with me. I other words, I can condition women to never question my manhood.

As women instinctively only argue with a man to see if he really is a man. As a real man would never argue with a woman. She is testing to see if the man needs her APPROVAL, and this will be verified to her if he argues with her…

As soon as a man even starts to argue with a woman he has given his power to her. And if he continues at length to argue with her… all the more it will lower his male status. As a womans instincts could give a sh!t about the actual argument… she will only keep it going to test him, logical consistency is not really needed by her… and inconsistency makes it all the more tempting for the man to bit the apple and loose his power.

I have got another idea…

I will initiate hugs… by extending my arms out but I will force women to come to be to complete the hug.

Staying in one place while the girl comes to you… has something to do with it… but I am not sure if I can explain how just yet.

And if the girl doesn’t come to me to be hugged I will take a step back or turn my head etc. (social punishment)

Please note that my social punishment technique has had some success so far. I was able to get a girl to have curly hair purely from the social conditioning I have given her… such as merely taking a step back!

We shall see I if I can condition the women to come to me when I tell them too.

It’s like training dogs. LOL

Have you ever seen the horse trainer that uses the psychology of horses to condition them???

Basically he walks in the path of a square and then into the path of a circle with the horse on the outside to tell the horse he is the master. It’s so simple. They have found that horses out in the wild exhibit exactly that behavior to establish leadership.

Human psychology is the same.

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I thought of another idea…

Basically, think of the most daring and demanding thing that you would want from the women you speak to… and tell them that is exactly how they will act around you or for you etc…

The goal here is to identify something you want, some norm that you want established but that you know the girl will resist. At the very moment she resists your daring norm you will socially punish her by taking a step back etc.

If you always consistently look for daring and demanding things that you want from a woman, and by her resisting those and then being socially punished you will always be socially conditioning the women around you and they would alway change more and more over time to what ever you desire.

I am a Fing genius.

Right now I am staying with a lady who has a muscle and nerve degenerative dis-ease.

The main problem is that she has a subconscious wish for death. Have you ever heard of that?

Anyway I going to use the social conditioning to get her to stop smoking cigarettes and stop living off of coffee and sugar… and to start eating healthy and to use my computer controlled electrical muscle and nerve stimulator on a regular basis.

How motherly of you, taking care of someone like that.

I have seen much sub-conscious Will to Death; it’s like a cancer of the Will. The making of this is too complex to fully list.

Yeah, I basically asked the universe that I might help an “incurable” person that I could learn to figure out how to over come the most difficult of cases… because basically I have already figured out how to cause the remission of most everything else.

This person is losing the ability to walk, and talk, etc… and the doctors say she will die.

She will only die if I cannot overcome her subconscious will to death… because I have the technology and know how to cause the remission of all her symptoms.

This morning I did it to that woman I am helping.

I first start all lovey dovey and stay that way while I am saying what she will do and become… all the while becoming more daring … until she even barely starts to resist the idea and I take a step back and go to leave…

she had started to resist the idea of her healing and as I went to leave she then said “o wait wait” LOL so I held my hand to my ear (as if to listen) while not even looking back at her lol until she reversed her resistance, then I came close to her and gave her positive reinforcement touching her being lovey dovey and then I escalated my daring demands while still being lovey dovey even telling her she will stop smoking cigarettes and finally when I told her she will stop drinking coffee she said “no” at which point I completely left her room.

we shall see if the social conditioning will work if I consistently use it on her.

It took me about two days of social conditioning a girl to get her to have curly hair. lol

This thread has life only because MySiddhi is spamming it.

Your ‘inventions’ won’t help that lady. If she has half a brain she’ll refuse.

It isn’t really so much about women; this is how one would train any weak-willed individual or animal, be they male or female.

Also; if she wants to die, why not let her?

She doesn’t consciously want to die! If you asked her, she would tell you she really wants to live and would do any reasonable thing to stay alive.

I was referring to her subconscious in regards to the wish for death.

You see, the “will” is a very small portion of our total consciousness. Honestly it should only be used to help us understand and choose. But once someone has chosen a path they must communicate it to the subconscious or there will be conflicts… In fact if something is communicated to the subconscious it can often very easily over ride the strongest “will” to resist.

The will is very weak in all people. It is the ego! If you use it correctly to understand your world and not identify with it (and therefore limit yourself to it) you will do fine.

Your subconscious mind the non-ego is the most powerful thing you posses. With it you can do things your ego-will would find impossible.

You are right about the social conditioning though… it will work on any social being even men who have been largely feminized in city states… not knowing what it means to be a man.

Tonight I was able to get her to do the electrical muscle and nerve stimulation for a few hours. I was even able to get her to do it on her shoulder which has been swelling up… the electrical signal can neutralize any pathogens in the currents path. I put the electrodes across the swelled area… I hope that helps her shoulder.

After the session she had a generally very positive attitude… I have also been doing synthetic telepathy on her too… and I have also been doing it to myself.

I have been doing synthetic telepathy on myself for the last couple days every night… and let me tell you I literally feel like a different person. I have never been so productive! My mind is clear and focused on who I know I am.

So, I won’t be surprised at all if the synthetic telepathy and the social conditioning is able to cause remission of her subconscious wish for death.

Once she stops the coffee, sugar, and cigarettes and does the muscle and nerve stimulation on a regular basis there should be a slowing or even a reversal of her degeneration.