i need some help!
i need information of Socrates and Plato…
What they taught us and their history
:: Trumpets playing ::
the sounds of a small man running.
All the ILP members see Smooth running up and yell, “All Hail Lord Helmet.”
(Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is my reading comprehension test of what I think. Let’s see what I’ve learned in the past few months.)
Socrates wasn’t the first philosophers, there are a couple of pre-socratic philosophers whose works have surived, but Socrates was the dude that started it all. I’m pretty sure that Socrates didn’t write nothing down himself, but his main student, Plato, told the world his works by writing down dialouges of Socrates with other people. Plato’s Republic is just a bunch of dialouges between Socrates and other people. Whether they are fictional or not, I don’t konw. But I have a feeling that the Socrates that Plato shows us isn’t the accurate one. I’m pretty sure that some of Plato’s veiws came through under Socarates name. But oh well. History is nothing but the fairy tale of the victorious.
Now, as in terms of what their veiws were, I can’t help you much. All I remember from Plato’s Republic was Book VII, the Allegory of the Cave.
Socrates was the first philosopher who had work written about him in direct correlation to him that wasnt just a reference in someone elses work. The one who wrote about him was Plato, his student, who started writing dialogues (memory of informal debates that Socrates had wiv ancient Greek figures about random topics).
Socrates was executed by the politicians at the time for trumped up charges (due to his frank and sometimes sarcastic way of debating, he pissed off a lot of upper class people in his time [the Apology and Phaedo cover this]) which obviously had a strong affect on Plato and after which he started writing the Socratic dialogues.
By the end of Plato’s writing, Socrates had become a bit of mouth-piece for Plato and his views (evident if you read some of the early dialogues compared to something like the end of the Republic). Plato wanted to create a new form of government in which philosophers would be the dominating powers in (bitter/wanted a place for his friend/mentor to live) and the Cave is one of his most famous works and it is a critique of society (a good one might i add).
Socrates never wrote any of his work, Plato did and Plato never really attributes anything to himself or does anything but dialogues (as far as i can tell) and in case you’re wondering Aristotle was Plato’s student
Yikes!!! could you be more specific? This is a huge topic. I think most of philosophy can be taken back to Plato, Socrates and the pre-socratics.