# Some Poems That We Might share ....
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**Created:** [January 21, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102 "2010-01-21T14:54:24Z")
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### Author:  [@Arcturus\_Descending](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Arcturus_Descending)
#### Post date: [February 12, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/21 "2010-02-12T17:41:54Z")
> [@Ascolo Parodites](#):
>
> Here are some poems I have translated. No English translations of them exist apart from what I have done.
>
> First, a bit of Latin from Adrianus’s Galatea.
>
> [i]
> Illa vagos quondam sensus hac voce monebat,
> nescitis miseri quot mala gignat amor.
> Tempore forma perit, paucisque ea carpitur annis.
> Dum licet, Idalii pellite tela Dei.
> His ego firmatus monitis me posse putavi innocua
> Cypriam mente videre Deam.
>
> My laments for thee, they do recall my roving lusts,
> though the fruits of misery I am unwilling to let bear upon the stalk of love.
> To beauty time lays waste, that is assured;
> though I shan’t even permit her fruit to bear;
> as long as it is permitted me to drive out amor’s dart,
> upon Aphrodite’s very temple.
> For it strengthens me in this conviction,
> to suppose that the Cyprian goddess, too, was innocent.[/i]
>
> [Cyprian Goddess, ie. Eris.]
>
> Some old Italian from Vincenzo da Filicaia’s Avvertimento ali Anima.
>
> [i]Ahi qual fallo e mirar cio, che mirato
> desta il desire, e col desir tormenta!
> Le Stelle indarno, indarno accusa il fato
> chi del proprio suo mal fabbro diventa:
> Stassi al varco del ciglio in dolte aguato
> amor dolce nemico, e ment ei tenta
> nel cuor l ingresso, con felice inganno
> ospite v entra, e vi riman tiranuo.
>
> Oh! What an error to look still upon your image,
> even after you have taken leave and given me your farewell,
> for when desire is named, desire torments!
> Desire, hence, what a fruitless star! Fruitlessly to accuse fate,
> and her wrought smithy in the firmament,
> and the circuit it hath thereby bore her to tread forever;
> together she, with the beloved, in sweet ambush
> confound love’s vision, and makes of it a sweet enemy,
> which, happy to be deceived, the heart entreats and welcomes,
> again and again subject to your tyrannizing.[/i]
ah, but love, there still is nothing like it in all the world…whether it be romantic love or _real_ love 😆 It really is the energy that burns through the universe, isn’t it? These are really romantic poems. What does Avvertimento ali Anima mean?
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### Author:  [@Ascolo\_Parodites](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Ascolo_Parodites)
#### Post date: [February 12, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/22 "2010-02-12T18:04:42Z")
Avvertimento ali Anima, the title of the poem I quoted (only a stanza from it, I might work on typing out the rest of it in English some time) means “A warning/caution to the soul.”
Yes, the idea of love is important to me. I have never experienced it, in the sense of reciprocation, and most likely never will. I am indifferent to happiness and sorrow, though. I love a woman for who she is, what she is- not for how she makes me feel personally or what she does for me, and rather or not I “have” her is irrelevant.
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### Author:  [@The\_Last\_Man](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/The_Last_Man)
#### Post date: [February 12, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/23 "2010-02-12T18:24:14Z")
Wonderful contributions here Ascolo, thanks for sharing.
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### Author:  [@Arcturus\_Descending](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Arcturus_Descending)
#### Post date: [February 12, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/24 "2010-02-12T18:41:09Z")
Ascolo Parodites"
> [@](#):
>
> Avvertimento ali Anima, the title of the poem I quoted (only a stanza from it, I might work on typing out the rest of it in English some time) means “A warning/caution to the soul.”
>
> Yes, the idea of love is important to me. I have never experienced it, in the sense of reciprocation, and most likely never will. I am indifferent to happiness and sorrow, though. I love a woman for who she is, what she is- not for how she makes me feel personally or what she does for me, and rather or not I “have” her is irrelevant.
I might imagine that translating these poems into English is a little like working on a very expensive watch with all of its intricacies. I think you just might have to be intimately familar with the poets’ works and what they might really be trying to convey, or am I wrong? It would seem to me that it would not just be about translating Italian into English but also in conveying the real meaning and depth of what the poet might be saying and feeling. This can be challenging but oh so worthwhile especially for those to experience the fruits of your wonderful labor.
In this way, these translations, might be difficult but indeed a work of love. I can imagine you sitting hunched over at your desk, like the monks of old trying to translate old biblical text…but maybe not quite like that…but then again, maybe just like that.
Anyway, what you are doing is important. How else might we have and feel the beauty of these wonderful romantic Italian poems.
I am rather surprised that you have not experienced reciprocation in love - your ideal and sense of love is real I think.
Edited: Sat., Feb. 13th
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### Author:  [@Shepherdess](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Shepherdess)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2010, 2:31pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/25 "2010-02-13T14:31:47Z")
[size=150]The Wayfarer[/size]
Stephen Crane
The wayfarer.
Perceiving the pathway to truth,
Was struck with astonishment.
It was thickly grown with weeds.
“Ha,” he said,
“I see that none has passed here
In a long time.”
Later he saw that each weed
Was a singular knife.
“Well,” he mumbled at last,
“Doubtless there are other roads.”
This drives home a very poignant fact - that the path from honesty into truth is the “road less traveled”!
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### Author:  [@Ascolo\_Parodites](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Ascolo_Parodites)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/26 "2010-02-13T18:42:17Z")
> [@arcturus rising](#):
>
> Ascolo Parodites"
>
> > [@](#):
> >
> > Avvertimento ali Anima, the title of the poem I quoted (only a stanza from it, I might work on typing out the rest of it in English some time) means “A warning/caution to the soul.”
> >
> > Yes, the idea of love is important to me. I have never experienced it, in the sense of reciprocation, and most likely never will. I am indifferent to happiness and sorrow, though. I love a woman for who she is, what she is- not for how she makes me feel personally or what she does for me, and rather or not I “have” her is irrelevant.
>
> I might imagine that translating these poems into English is a little like working on a very expensive watch with all of its intricacies. I think you just might have to be intimately familar with the poets’ works and what they might really be trying to convey, or am I wrong? It would seem to me that it would not just be about translating Italian into English but also in conveying the real meaning and depth of what the poet might be saying and feeling. This can be challenging but oh so worthwhile especially for those to experience the fruits of your wonderful labor.
>
> In this way, these translations, might be difficult but indeed a work of love. I can imagine you sitting hunched over at your desk, like the monks of old trying to translate old biblical text…but maybe not quite like that…but then again, maybe just like that.
>
> Anyway, what you are doing is important. How else might we have and feel the beauty of these wonderful romantic Italian poems.
>
> I am rather surprised that you have not experienced reciprocation in love - your ideal and sense of love is real I think.
> Edited: Sat., Feb. 13th
Yes. To translate you must be able to reproduce the poem, not just materially, but in such a way as to expose the spell of misery or joy under which it was originally composed. I read not just poetry but philosophy in foreign languages, a few hundred pages a day. I don’t bother translating something unless I am able to reproduce it in my own language in this specific way.
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### Author:  [@flashoflight](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/flashoflight)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/27 "2010-02-13T19:17:36Z")
There was one time when I was going through a period of nihilism, and this poem seemed to pick up the shattered pieces before me and make them dance for me.
All Is Truth
By Walt Whitman
Standing aloof, denying portions so long,
Only aware to-day of compact all-diffused truth,
Discovering to-day there is no lie or form of lie, and can be none,
but grows as inevitably upon itself as the truth does upon itself,
Or as any law of the earth or any natural production of the earth does.
(This is curious and may not be realized immediately, but it must be
realized,
I feel in myself that I represent falsehoods equally with the rest,
And that the universe does.)
Where has fail’d a perfect return indifferent of lies or the truth?
Is it upon the ground, or in water or fire? or in the spirit of man?
or in the meat and blood?
Meditating among liars and retreating sternly into myself, I see
that there are really no liars or lies after all,
And that nothing fails its perfect return, and that what are called
lies are perfect returns,
And that each thing exactly represents itself and what has preceded it,
And that the truth includes all, and is compact just as much as
space is compact,
And that there is no flaw or vacuum in the amount of the truth–but
that all is truth without exception;
And henceforth I will go celebrate any thing I see or am,
And sing and laugh and deny nothing.
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### Author:  [@Arcturus\_Descending](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Arcturus_Descending)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/28 "2010-02-13T19:18:32Z")
Ascolo Parodites,
You must really live, become totally immersed within the life that Emerson spoke of within these words: “The true philosopher and the true poet are one, and a beauty, which is truth, and a truth, which is beauty, is the aim of both.”
What you are also doing is getting at the truth found within their words. How many languages are you fluent in, if I might ask, but you needn’t answer, of course.
And thank you for your work.
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### Author:  [@Ascolo\_Parodites](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Ascolo_Parodites)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/29 "2010-02-13T22:13:38Z")
I taught myself French, Italian, Latin, Greek, and Spanish. Yet I am more proud of my own writing than I am of my knowledge and mastery of the languages of men. An example of which:
[size=85]
599. The noble scene of the heart.-- As the driftwood which litters these beautiful sands, so the loss of friend, or spoiled love, is suddenly born upon us one morning from we know not where, and there it befouls what seemed only a few moments ago to be a perfect isle. How sad the heart which, instead of being the sea and rolling tide from which its beauties, its dreams, and its graces issue forth, is only the sands and noble scene which receives them.
1. Of the sorrow of man.-- Every sorrow, as it arises within us, seems to be something particular, something rare, and perhaps wisdom alone is not enough to lead a man to doubt this, however much folly may be in it: if I might be allowed to indulge my Latin taste, my conscience very much accords to the definition which Cornelius Schonaeus gave to sorrow: ac volucrem rerum omnium conditionem mutabilem. “Woe! That all things are disposed to change! Sorrow, you are the wings of the world.” For this woe is generally the lot of mankind. We may divine, however, and without much effort, the pleasure of the rich man, of the lover, of the esteemed poet: they indeed all wear it upon their face. But the sorrows of our fellow men never seem to have such a striking effect upon us. Why is this? Hope more easily forges the bond of human fellowship than sympathy, for it always looks ahead, as is the view to which it is betaken by its very nature, and lends its eye to that happiness in another which we would endeavor to possess for ourselves, not in point of vanity, but as only is right; while sympathy must always look backward, must search deep into us to extract from the heart the little thorn of sorrow, so deeply rooted, which might wed the spirit. Perhaps for all that, it is only pain that has made man presume himself to be a God-- a rarity, a measure, and out of defiance against all things, the world just as much as himself, the exception in all of nature.
While self-reproach, the pangs of love and conscience, and all the various complaints of the heart seem to be of themselves a proof of our individual character and of our genius, all the joys that arise within us seem to be somewhat vulgarizing, either from good spirits and rustic simplicity, by means of art, or in the merry circumstances which sometimes befall us, and of which we have learned to treat of as the very breast of life; memento vita, 1 and strictly betake themselves to the avouchment of all that has grown familiar, customary, and arid to us. Thus our pleasures, more so than our sorrows, fill us with that forboding suspicion that we are not at all a rarity, and fail to add even one stone to that lofty structure of ambition and longing upon which man has staked his very conception of genius, individual character, and his pride. Accordingly, these pleasures vanish almost as quickly as they arise: perhaps this is only natural, as it helps to encourage the illusions which are quite necessary for the defiance before all of existence which makes human life tolerable. Alas! That even love must appear upon the earth as a little bee attracted by the vaguest whiff of the Sephalica’s fragrance! 2 Herein lies the actual testament to the vanity of the world: sorrow indeed points to the contrary. And still, provided the remotest term of human existence, both the sorrowful and the happy man will come to the same conclusion regarding the vanity of this world: the former will exhaust himself, and the latter will exhaust his life. I believe that a man who has attained to the furthest span of years that may be reckoned of human life has only one excuse for remaining faithful to his God, and quite a noble excuse I might add: at vero vitos veris initio turgescunt oculis ad lacrymas: [Franciscus Remundus in Orationes] this life is as certain as the next as tear is of tear.
1. Memento vita, remember you are living. A variation on the Latin theme memento mori, remember you are mortal.
2. The Sephalica was a fabled flower which made the bee which rested on it fall asleep. The implication of the metaphor here is that, just as the bee which, because it has fallen asleep, will never be able to return to the comb with this fabled nectar, love will never be able to obtain what has truly been desired and return to us with the glorified image of what has been longed for, and that our expectations under this fever of love will always fall short of their mark. [/size]
Perhaps I live too much. I have seen that the life of the soul and the body are far from coterminous. I know that my soul will perish long before my body, and even now, in face of all I have come to know, and of my mastery of the human heart, to double and re-double my life seems an impossibility; that my soul will have been exhausted long before time, that too cautious of laborers, has wrought decay in my body. Petrarch had taught me the meaning of madness, which amounts to what I have just described, the loss of the soul while the body lingers on, in this verse:
Will Heaven, taking what belongs to it,
not care about those who remain on earth,
whose sun it is, and who see nothing else?
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### Author:  [@Arcturus\_Descending](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Arcturus_Descending)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/30 "2010-02-16T16:35:18Z")
> [@flashoflight](#):
>
> There was one time when I was going through a period of nihilism, and this poem seemed to pick up the shattered pieces before me and make them dance for me.
>
> All Is Truth
> By Walt Whitman
>
> Standing aloof, denying portions so long,
> Only aware to-day of compact all-diffused truth,
> Discovering to-day there is no lie or form of lie, and can be none,
> but grows as inevitably upon itself as the truth does upon itself,
> Or as any law of the earth or any natural production of the earth does.
>
> (This is curious and may not be realized immediately, but it must be
> realized,
> I feel in myself that I represent falsehoods equally with the rest,
> And that the universe does.)
>
> Where has fail’d a perfect return indifferent of lies or the truth?
> Is it upon the ground, or in water or fire? or in the spirit of man?
> or in the meat and blood?
>
> Meditating among liars and retreating sternly into myself, I see
> that there are really no liars or lies after all,
> And that nothing fails its perfect return, and that what are called
> lies are perfect returns,
> And that each thing exactly represents itself and what has preceded it,
> And that the truth includes all, and is compact just as much as
> space is compact,
> And that there is no flaw or vacuum in the amount of the truth–but
> that all is truth without exception;
> And henceforth I will go celebrate any thing I see or am,
> And sing and laugh and deny nothing.
Hi flashoflight, I read this a few times and although I do not know what it is that Whitman was actually trying to say in here, I sort of get the sense that it is about a journey which ultimately leads to surrender and Oneness…surrendering brought on by the slow knowledge and/or awareness that really Everything in the universe is connected, each thing flows into the other…where nothing is judged and ultimately what is real and true is that All is One. I know that I seem to have simplified this but ultimately I think this is what it is…that Everything is simply One…complete and harmonious.
And I am glad that your _dance_ has come back to Oneness. Thank you for sharing that.
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### Author:  [@Arcturus\_Descending](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Arcturus_Descending)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/31 "2010-02-16T17:45:06Z")
Ascolo Parodites
> [@](#):
>
> I taught myself French, Italian, Latin, Greek, and Spanish. Yet I am more proud of my own writing than I am of my knowledge and mastery of the languages of men. An example of which:\*
I think that would make you a cross between Lincoln and a real renaissance man. 🙂 And yes, I think I understand…your own writing is a treasure that came from within you, deep within you. An expression of yourself, just as the writings of others are expressions of themselves.
> [@](#):
>
> 1. The noble scene of the heart.-- As the driftwood which litters these beautiful sands, so the loss of friend, or spoiled love, is suddenly born upon us one morning from we know not where, and there it befouls what seemed only a few moments ago to be a perfect isle. How sad the heart which, instead of being the sea and rolling tide from which its beauties, its dreams, and its graces issue forth, is only the sands and noble scene which receives them.
Beautiful imagery here. Your writing sort of reminds me of a friend’s. What comes to me here are Keats’ words – “A thing of beauty is a joy forever” Nothing, I don’t think could ever _really_ detract from _the sea and rolling tide from which its beauties………_ What one is left with at the point of detachment is nothing but still Everything.
> [@](#):
>
> 1. Of the sorrow of man.-- Every sorrow, as it arises within us, seems to be something particular, something rare, and perhaps wisdom alone is not enough to lead a man to doubt this, however much folly may be in it: if I might be allowed to indulge my Latin taste, my conscience very much accords to the definition which Cornelius Schonaeus gave to sorrow: ac volucrem rerum omnium conditionem mutabilem. “Woe! That all things are disposed to change! Sorrow, you are the wings of the world.” For this woe is generally the lot of mankind. We may divine, however, and without much effort, the pleasure of the rich man, of the lover, of the esteemed poet: they indeed all wear it upon their face. But the sorrows of our fellow men never seem to have such a striking effect upon us. Why is this? Hope more easily forges the bond of human fellowship than sympathy, for it always looks ahead, as is the view to which it is betaken by its very nature, and lends its eye to that happiness in another which we would endeavor to possess for ourselves, not in point of vanity, but as only is right; while sympathy must always look backward, must search deep into us to extract from the heart the little thorn of sorrow, so deeply rooted, which might wed the spirit. Perhaps for all that, it is only pain that has made man presume himself to be a God-- a rarity, a measure, and out of defiance against all things, the world just as much as himself, the exception in all of nature.
Really beautiful words. I think hope does look forward; and we are all connected through it, but I feel that we are also connected through our compassion for one another, through empathy. And our sorrow is as deep, as profound, as our joy is experienced within our heights. Both are rare as experienced through the deepest and the highest. And I must apologize to you - if you would prefer for me not to make any comments on your words here. The thoughts are beautiful.
> [@](#):
>
> While self-reproach, the pangs of love and conscience, and all the various complaints of the heart seem to be of themselves a proof of our individual character and of our genius, all the joys that arise within us seem to be somewhat vulgarizing, either from good spirits and rustic simplicity, by means of art, or in the merry circumstances which sometimes befall us, and of which we have learned to treat of as the very breast of life; memento vita, 1 and strictly betake themselves to the avouchment of all that has grown familiar, customary, and arid to us. Thus our pleasures, more so than our sorrows, fill us with that forboding suspicion that we are not at all a rarity, and fail to add even one stone to that lofty structure of ambition and longing upon which man has staked his very conception of genius, individual character, and his pride. Accordingly, these pleasures vanish almost as quickly as they arise: perhaps this is only natural, as it helps to encourage the illusions which are quite necessary for the defiance before all of existence which makes human life tolerable. Alas! That even love must appear upon the earth as a little bee attracted by the vaguest whiff of the Sephalica’s fragrance! 2 Herein lies the actual testament to the vanity of the world: sorrow indeed points to the contrary. And still, provided the remotest term of human existence, both the sorrowful and the happy man will come to the same conclusion regarding the vanity of this world: the former will exhaust himself, and the latter will exhaust his life. I believe that a man who has attained to the furthest span of years that may be reckoned of human life has only one excuse for remaining faithful to his God, and quite a noble excuse I might add: at vero vitos veris initio turgescunt oculis ad lacrymas: [Franciscus Remundus in Orationes] this life is as certain as the next as tear is of tear.
I am beginning to think that I do less justice to your words in here by responding instead of just reading and contemplating them. I have found what you say about pleasure and sorrow (or vs.) to be true. But I also think that there is harmony in learning how to merge the two. And tears are as certain (at least to me) as the next life is.
> [@](#):
>
> 1. Memento vita, remember you are living. A variation on the Latin theme memento mori, remember you are mortal.
> 2. The Sephalica was a fabled flower which made the bee which rested on it fall asleep. The implication of the metaphor here is that, just as the bee which, because it has fallen asleep, will never be able to return to the comb with this fabled nectar, love will never be able to obtain what has truly been desired and return to us with the glorified image of what has been longed for, and that our expectations under this fever of love will always fall short of their mark.
Unless perhaps we look at love as simply something that possesses us (but to which we must do a dance of detachment) and _not_ something to be reciprocated by the beloved, which for me is the never-ending journey for which I have been put on this Earth.
> [@](#):
>
> Perhaps I live too much. I have seen that the life of the soul and the body are far from coterminous. I know that my soul will perish long before my body, and even now, in face of all I have come to know, and of my mastery of the human heart, to double and re-double my life seems an impossibility; that my soul will have been exhausted long before time, that too cautious of laborers, has wrought decay in my body. Petrarch had taught me the meaning of madness, which amounts to what I have just described, the loss of the soul while the body lingers on, in this verse:
>
> Will Heaven, taking what belongs to it,
> not care about those who remain on earth,
> whose sun it is, and who see nothing else?
To me, the soul is an energy which cannot be destroyed. And they are _close_ and can play and feed upon one another, I think, better still, there is a dance between them. The soul, I think, can ebb and flow and be transformed but will always be. Petrarch was wrong!! Forgive me.
If everything is in complete harmony, as one, though appearances don’t always seem to show this, then all is as One and nothing is left behind. Nothing!
Your words really are beautiful. As I think I have said, so much love and hard work and energy for this.
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### Author:  [@Arcturus\_Descending](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Arcturus_Descending)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/32 "2010-02-16T18:55:39Z")
Silent Paws
Gerri K. McCann
Silent paws trotting
on a well beaten trail,
alone in the wilderness,
so young and so frail.
Little yips go unanswered,
the moon is now his guide,
looking for ones just like him,
or have all of them just died?
He sniffs the dampened ground
and senses man everywhere,
the silence is deafening
no howls in the air.
Oh why did he venture
so far from his den,
while his pack fell silent
at the hands of men?
His stomach is growling
but the hunger he’ll endure,
his pack family is out there
it’s their blood he smells for sure.
He stops in his tracks
and raises his head up high,
the terror overwhelms him
as he lets out another cry.
But still there’s no answer
he can’t understand why,
he’ll follow their trail
or he surely will die.
For days now he’s traveled
his spirit and body gone weak,
he lies down in white clover
no more energy left to speak.
Soon the soul hovers
over this tiny, frail pup,
whose future now will be guarded
as his soul travels up.
What right does man have
to take life from a living thing,
that has no way to voice its defense
against a human being?
The wolf is a symbol,
a brother, a friend.
it’s time now for action
before his existence comes to an end.
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### Author:  [@Arcturus\_Descending](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Arcturus_Descending)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/33 "2010-02-16T19:12:56Z")
ALLEGORY OF THE CAVE
Stephen Dunn
He climbed toward the blinding light
and when his eyes adjusted
he looked down and could see
his fellow prisoners captivated
by shadows; everything he had believed
was false. And he was suddenly
in the 20th century, in the sunlight
and violence of history, encumbered
by knowledge. Only a hero
would dare return with the truth.
So from the cave’s upper reaches,
removed from harm, he called out
the disturbing news.
What lovely echoes, the prisoners said,
what a fine musical place to live.
He spelled it out, then, in clear prose
on paper scraps, which he floated down.
But in the semi-dark they read his words
with the indulgence of those who seldom read:
It’s about my father’s death, one of them said.
No, said the others, it’s a joke.
By this time he no longer was sure
of what he’d seen. Wasn’t sunlight a shadow too?
Wasn’t there always a source
behind a source? He just stood there,
confused, a man who had moved
to larger errors, without a prayer.
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### Author:  [@Arcturus\_Descending](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Arcturus_Descending)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/34 "2010-02-16T19:17:08Z")
There Was A Child Went Forth
Walt Whitman
There was a child went forth every day;
And the first object he look’d upon, that object he became;
And that object became part of him for the day, or a certain part of
the day, or for many years, or stretching cycles of years.
The early lilacs became part of this child,
And grass, and white and red morning-glories, and white and red
clover, and the song of the phoebe-bird,
And the Third-month lambs, and the sow’s pink-faint litter, and the
mare’s foal, and the cow’s calf,
And the noisy brood of the barn-yard, or by the mire of the pond-
side,
And the fish suspending themselves so curiously below there–and the
beautiful curious liquid,
And the water-plants with their graceful flat heads–all became part
of him.
The field-sprouts of Fourth-month and Fifth-month became part of
him;
Winter-grain sprouts, and those of the light-yellow corn, and the
esculent roots of the garden,
And the apple-trees cover’d with blossoms, and the fruit afterward,
and wood-berries, and the commonest weeds by the road;
And the old drunkard staggering home from the out-house of the
tavern, whence he had lately risen,
And the school-mistress that pass’d on her way to the school,
And the friendly boys that pass’d–and the quarrelsome boys,
And the tidy and fresh-cheek’d girls–and the barefoot negro boy and
girl,
And all the changes of city and country, wherever he went.
His own parents,
He that had father’d him, and she that had conceiv’d him in her womb,
and birth’d him,
They gave this child more of themselves than that;
They gave him afterward every day–they became part of him.
The mother at home, quietly placing the dishes on the supper-table;
The mother with mild words–clean her cap and gown, a wholesome odor
falling off her person and clothes as she walks by;
The father, strong, self-sufficient, manly, mean, anger’d, unjust;
The blow, the quick loud word, the tight bargain, the crafty lure,
The family usages, the language, the company, the furniture–the
yearning and swelling heart,
Affection that will not be gainsay’d–the sense of what is real–the
thought if, after all, it should prove unreal,
The doubts of day-time and the doubts of night-time–the curious
whether and how,
Whether that which appears so is so, or is it all flashes and specks?
Men and women crowding fast in the streets–if they are not flashes
and specks, what are they?
The streets themselves, and the façades of houses, and goods in the
windows,
Vehicles, teams, the heavy-plank’d wharves–the huge crossing at the
ferries,
The village on the highland, seen from afar at sunset–the river
between,
Shadows, aureola and mist, the light falling on roofs and gables of
white or brown, three miles off,
The schooner near by, sleepily dropping down the tide–the little
boat slack-tow’d astern,
The hurrying tumbling waves, quick-broken crests, slapping,
The strata of color’d clouds, the long bar of maroon-tint, away
solitary by itself–the spread of purity it lies motionless in,
The horizon’s edge, the flying sea-crow, the fragrance of salt marsh
and shore mud;
These became part of that child who went forth every day, and who now
goes, and will always go forth every day.
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### Author:  [@The\_Last\_Man](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/The_Last_Man)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2010, 12:11pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/35 "2010-02-18T12:11:31Z")
To Be, Without
In flying one must learn to
abandon his legs and his
reassurance in the ground
I am large and diffuse I span time
nowhere in me is there two
of the same of anything
I am that which to identity is
antithesis and illusion
search but you cannot find me
Grasp at me and you cannot hold me
form stripped of its rejuvenating powers
free of lifeblood and essence
How can this be true
do I in all effects become a cloud
an escape, so what then am I?
Territory abandoned and rejected
as destitute and soiled
the rotten infertility of shame
But what is usefulness to me
to one without intention or purpose
but change, flow, growth and decay?
Does a plant have a purpose, how could it
an animal, much less a star, even a universe
or a man?
Purpose is the end of decay
meaning the end of growth
and usefulness is the end of life
Where it meets itself there it ends
thus only to be, without
is to truly be at all.
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### Author:  [@Coatless](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Coatless)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2010, 2:10pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/36 "2010-02-18T14:10:02Z")
The Road Not Taken
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveller, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;
Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,
And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-
I took the one less travelled by,
And that has made all the difference.
Robert Frost
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### Author:  [@Coatless](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Coatless)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/37 "2010-02-18T14:13:29Z")
Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening
Whose woods these are I think I know.
His house is in the village though;
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow.
My little horse must think it queer
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year.
He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there is some mistake.
The only other sound’s the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.
Robert Frost
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### Author:  [@Coatless](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Coatless)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/38 "2010-02-18T14:17:05Z")
Frost at Midnight
The Frost performs its secret ministry,
Unhelped by any wind. The owlet’s cry
Came loud, -and hark, again! loud as before.
The inmates of my cottage, all at rest,
Have left me to that solitude, which suits
Abstruser musings: save that at my side
My cradled infant slumbers peacefully.
'Tis calm indeed! so calm, that it disturbs
And vexes meditation with its strange
And extreme silentness. Sea, hill, and wood,
With all the numberless goings-on of life,
Inaudible as dreams! the thin blue flame
Lies on my low-burnt fire, and quivers not;
Only that film, which fluttered on the grate,
Still flutters there, the sole unquiet thing.
Methinks its motion in this hush of nature
Gives it dim sympathies with me who live,
Making it a companionable form,
Whose puny flaps and freaks the idling Spirit
By its own moods interprets, every where
Echo or mirror seeking of itself,
And makes a toy of Thought.
But O! how oft,
How oft, at school, with most believing mind,
Presageful, have I gazed upon the bars,
To watch that fluttering stranger! and as oft
With unclosed lids, already had I dreamt
Of my sweet birthplace, and the old church-tower,
Whose bells, the poor man’s only music, rang
From morn to evening, all the hot Fair-day,
So sweetly, that they stirred and haunted me
With a wild pleasure, falling on mine ear
Most like articulate sounds of things to come!
So gazed I, till the soothing things, I dreamt,
Lulled me to sleep, and sleep prolonged my dreams!
And so I brooded all the following morn,
Awed by the stern preceptor’s face, mine eye
Fixed with mock study on my swimming book:
Save if the door half opened, and I snatched
A hasty glance, and still my heart leaped up,
For still I hoped to see the stranger’s face,
Townsman, or aunt, or sister more beloved,
My playmate when we both were clothed alike!
Dear Babe, that sleepest cradled by my side,
Whose gentle breathings, heard in this deep calm,
Fill up the interspersed vacancies
And momentary pauses of the thought!
My babe so beautiful! it thrills my heart
With tender gladness, thus to look at thee,
And think that thou shalt learn far other lore,
And in far other scenes! For I was reared
In the great city, pent mid cloisters dim,
And saw nought lovely but the sky and stars.
But thou, my babe! shalt wander like a breeze
By lakes and sandy shores, beneath the crags
Of ancient mountain, and beneath the clouds,
Which image in their bulk both lakes and shores
And mountain crags: so shalt thou see and hear
The lovely shapes and sounds intelligible
Of that eternal language, which thy God
Utters, who from eternity doth teach
Himself in all, and all things in himself.
Great universal Teacher! he shall mould
Thy spirit, and by giving make it ask.
Therefore all seasons shall be sweet to thee,
Whether the summer clothe the general earth
With greenness, or the redbreast sit and sing
Betwixt the tufts of snow on the bare branch
Of mossy apple-tree, while the nigh thatch
Smokes in the sun-thaw; whether the eave-drops fall
Heard only in the trances of the blast,
Or if the secret ministry of frost
Shall hang them up in silent icicles,
Quietly shining to the quiet Moon.
Samuel Taylor Coleridge
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### Author:  [@Coatless](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Coatless)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/39 "2010-02-18T15:11:25Z")
On My First Sonne by: Ben Jonson (1572-1637)
Farewell, thou child of my right hand, and joy;
My sinne was too much hope of thee, lov’d boy;
Seven yeeres tho’ wert lent to me, and I thee pay,
Exacted by thy fate, on the just day.
O, could I loose all father, now. For why
Will man lament the state he should envie?
To have so soon scap’d worlds and fleshes rage,
And, if no other miserie, yet age?
Rest in soft peace, and, ask’d, say here doth lye
Ben. Johnson his best piece of poetrie.
For whose sake, hence-forth, all his vowes be such,
As what he loves may never like too much.
[size=90](Ben Jonson wrote this after the death of his first son, Benjamin, at the age of seven. It remains for me the most moving verse I’ve ever read, and still makes me cry every time I read it. Utterly awful and wonderful). [/size]
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### Author:  [@Arcturus\_Descending](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Arcturus_Descending)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/some-poems-that-we-might-share/27102/40 "2010-02-18T20:10:54Z")
Coatless,
Thank you for sharing those beautiful poems. I also love Frost. On my first sonne is very sad. Sort of reminded of the musician who lost his little boy, who fell out the window. He created that terrible and beautiful song for him.
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