ok I know there is a fallacy here but would somebody smart please point it out to me…
Ok, so I was lying in bed depressed and miserable thinking that the world is made up of mean bigoted people and I should just resign myself to hiding from others and living in a hole like a troll and that I should just remain depressed because the world is too ugly and Im just keeping it real and why dissapoint myself time and time again…
ok now, I think there is a fallacy here, what is it?
Its the fallacy of ‘pre-destined conclusion’ (which I made up just for you.)
Just as you should never go to the supermarket when you’re hungry, you should never make generalizations when you’re feeling blue.
Happiness is a reciprocal function. Fake it. Smile at people. Some will smile back, some will look at you with distrust, but keep it up, and eventually the corners of their mouths will twitch. Like people. Some will like you back, all will like you more. Like the world you live in now, don’t worry about the world in totallity with all its horrors and astonishments, time enough for that later.
I like you PhilosophyGirl.
The fallacy is that you’re probably not going to do it.
Put simply: because it will keep you unhappy when you are capable of being happy
One problem with the belief that everyone is bad and negative is the assumption that they know better. Their negativity could be the result of ignorance. Thus, the unenlightened are far more negative than people that have learned the pointlessness of pettiness.
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I like the above reply. As for my own it’s gona be a real suprise: read Nietzsche.
Keep in mind that “fallacy” is often used as a technical term for analyzing logical arguments.
Now if you said something like this:
Most of the people I have ever met are mean and bigoted.
Therefored most of the people in the entire world are mean and bigoted.
Then you could call that a Unrepresentative Sample Inductive Fallacy.
Definition: The sample used in an inductive inference is relevantly different from the population as a whole.
Examples:
To see how Canadians will vote in the next election we polled a hundred people in Calgary. This shows conclusively that the Reform Party will sweep the polls. (People in Calgary tend to be more conservative, and hence more likely to vote Reform, than people in the rest of the country.)
The apples on the top of the box look good. The entire box of apples must be good. (Of course, the rotten apples are hidden beneath the surface.)
Proof: Show how the sample is relevantly different from the population as a whole, then show that because the sample is different, the conclusion is probably different.
I dont get it.
I also dont get disciple of light’s post.
You will stop having negative feelings toward others if to come to the conclusion that most people do not know or understand what they are doing or what the implications of their acts are. For instance, there may not be much difference between a five year old, a twenty-five year old, and a fifty-five year old in the scope of their self-awareness, thus they are innocent of their actions. Then you can look at the fifty-five year old and say gee…just as you would a five year old.
TheAdlerian made a Nietzschean point - well sort of - the ultimate irresponsibility of all acts. That’s not a bad point at all. So what am I saying? r e a d n i e c h… plz
Uniqor,
Read something other than Nietzsche, plz…
The first 3 posts have your answer in a nutshell, or piecrust or football or cereal bowl, I like that one best, No wait, I choose salt shaker. The first 3 posts have your answer in a salt shaker. If you know there is falseness then you know the falseness.
ye, read nietzsche, then sartre and structuralism. maybe it won’t hurt as much. but it may not help. depends.
to my worst depression the above helped in a way, but I also became more ignorant of others. i don;t care that much aout others, I’m less sensitive towards the needs of others. I care more for myself. now. it helped me survive, alive, anyway. my life project is not finished, thugh:). who knows it the above will suffice if I re-read it more?
lenore, it’s too bad that Nietzsche made you actually worse. I admite that he’s not for everybody. In fact, I increasingly believe that the existential Nietzsche is for only a few, even a few among libras. Nietzsche’s popularity owns mostly to his briliant yet accessable writing style, but that only serves to the detriment of expressing his deepest thoughts. Too much of his incredibly subtle existentiality is mixed and lost among the other ideas that relatively float on the surface. Nietzsche has always been mistook for somebody else, to different degrees. “Have I been understood”, that question he asked, still needs an anwser to this very day. He wasn’t confident about it, he never was given all the misunderstanding and rejection, but to imagine his ideas would be exalted posthumously was his spiritual pillar for over tewnty years, a pillar that eventually collapsed. That doesn’t undermine my believe that he is one of the toughest manlist man among all men ever lived, regarding him as a person that is. Regarding him as a philosopher, he is one of the deepest, purest and most creative. Nietzsche to me, exists in the intellectual history of mankind as one of the extremely few individual that can match up to the deed of Jesus Christ. I increasingly believe that the only man has climbed over and stood solid above Jesus’ existentiality is Friedrich Nietzsche, the first and complete superhuman. I divide human existential history into three phases, with two watersheds so far, them being Christ and Nietzsche. Fritz eventually acquired himself the power of seeing through the thickest and most tacit coner of any man’s heart, mind and soul. He was the true and only spiritualist and psychologist, metaphysicist and physicist in ultimate fusion. Laozi and Freud, Kant and Newton, were all in this very sense, encompassed with ultimate balance, by Nietzsche the oneman man, the magnitude of whose afromentioned intellectual achievement stands unparalled today. Utterly without a match. Let alone refutation. Those who think they have Nietzsche nailed, simply have no adequate understanding of him, why? Because firstly, I speak from experience and secondly, as I have already said a hundred times that, Nietzsche’s philosophy is as Christ’s religion: self justifiable. Take it or leave it, none should be a robber at the same time a blasphemer. Take Nietzsche’s directional enlightenment and create tomorrow with the innate uniqueness of your own existentiality, that all he asked you to do - to simultaneously create and recognise yourself to the very best of your ability, achieved by freeing yourself from petty humanity and look up to the will to power and to the will alone, and to repeat this creative process again and again in order to keep your will fed - to keep yourself happy.
Uniqor:
I’ll give you a dollar for every post you make without mentioning Nietzsche.
Make no mistake- Nietzsche is the best…I love 'em, love 'em, love 'em. But please expand your horizons a bit. Zarathustra only returns to those who deny him. For the love of Fritz, please do him that favor.
Zarathustra only returns after being denied. That particular scentence struck me when I read it. It struck me with delight for I knew that I was following him exactly the way he wanted. I am being autobiographical here.
I’ll be glad to expand my horizon. I don’t have to drop him in order to accomplish that. He is not somebody whom you at first completely dig then after a couple of months completely drop, like Spinoza. He doesn’t represent a horizon, he is the will. Doesn’t matter where your existentiality go, you don’t drop the will. He is the gravity, that no man in universe can escape. He is the Newton of philosophy, he is the rule.
I decline the deal.
Hi Philosophy Girl,
Glad you are back with us. I believe what disciple is saying is eat right, think positive, have positive relationships and exercise to lose the blues you are suffering.
This does help, heck, I seldom drink any caffeine anymore, eat great food, never fast food, enjoy my wine, never too much, and at the moment am dressed for the gym. Albeit, I am bad and do smoke cigarettes.
This works for most. If your friends suck, develop positive friendships and remember that you cannot control what others think, say or do. You are responsible for you, so do not allow the jerks to have this power over you. Bigots, insecure, defensive humans will always be around to play the I win, you lose game to try to feel better about themselves. It is called low self-esteem.
Ditto.
