Sperm Donor Paying Child Support

This is probably because the lesbian couple felt no moral or ethical obligation to further their relationship. There is a reason why the marriage between man and woman was instituted in a Holy union, to make people more accountable for their actions.

The sad thing now the child is the one who will reap the consequences of the parties in question. Whereas the same thing could happen in a conventional marriage, the likelyhood would be less.

Although I do not feel the fireman should be legally responsible for the child’s upbringing due to that governments statutes, if I had placed myself into that situation, (highly unlikely) I would feel morally obligated to the child’s welfare. This is sad all around.

The fireman obviously entered into a contract with these lesbians that absolved him of any obligation to the child. That the state would hold him responsible is a position fraught with dangerous implications for all sperm donors. It would eliminate sperm donation as a means of feritility in the future and create an immediate unlimited liability for all past sperm donors.
If anything, this will force the courts to clarify the legal position of sperm donors as regards their progeny.

this is the dumbest, most bigoted thing I’ve ever heard. don’t half of straight marriages end in divorce?

My interests don’t lie where adults who are supposed to have half a brain should know how to live substantial life. They lie in the direction where the child who is being hurt is in the middle of the adult’s stupidity. They have no say in what transpires.

I agree, but I don’t see where you get off saying sexual orientation has a factor in whether or not you’re a good parent.

Because I believe a marriage conceived in the eyes of God will give a better base of morality for a family. Anything other than that, homosexual, heterosexual or whatever will fall short.

Liteninbolt, your claim is either unproven, or trivially true. If you actually intend to define morality separate from your personal beliefs, and show that children raised in homosexual households are less moral, even controlling for the vast social oppression that such families receive, you need to provide a definition and evidence to back it up. If you define a “base of morality” to include de facto the discrimination of homosexuals, then you aren’t saying anything except “if you think homos are immoral, than homo marriage is immoral and homos are immoral parents,” which is true because you defined moral that way, not because of any practical or measurable consequence of the union.

So only christian marriages are able to be totally successful as far as morality goes?

No, Christian marriages are not perfect, but there would be a greater chance for the positive advancement for the ‘family’. Every person has flaws. At least with God in the family unit, they have a better advantage of harmony.

Well, unfortunately “harmony” is subjective and I don’t have experience outside my own community.

If I were to guess though, I’d expect there are plenty of harmonious atheistic families.

“Positive advancement,” too, is a subjective term. Clearly, if you define “positive” as synonymous with “Christian,” only a Christian family has any hope of “positive advancement.”

As far as I know the Orthodox Jews believe in the same God as Christians do since they both accept the Old Testament as part of their faiths. The main difference being Christians believe the Messiah is Jesus and the Orthodox Jews do not.

Which means we’re going to hell and you’re not.

And that’s not really the issue I’m concerned with anyway.

from…religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

thought you might find that interesting.

I did not say that. You are extrapolating beyond my statement you are responding to.

I did not say that. You are extrapolating beyond my statement you are responding to just as koifer.

My conclusions are based on the Bible with which you have no belief in.

That’s what christians believe though. I’ve been accosted one too many times by pushy missionaries to believe otherwise.

And if I’m going to hell then I can’t have a harmonious relationship…can I?

to be fair, I was going to stick up for you. I just got distracted. I know you don’t take the belief that far.

I’m sorry tortoise, but this forum as far as I know is free to post in as long as I follow the rules. I don’t believe I have as of yet broken any. I don’t know if you have noticed, but you have biases too. My eveidence is the Bible to which you refuse to believe in. At least I am willing to listen varying sides of arguments. You want to quash mine.

It would be nice if you qouted me in proper context rather than using aphoristic terms for exaggeration. God loves everyone regardless of their situation or beliefs. My assertion was people who choose to follow God’s tenets will have a stronger and more harmonious family life. That when times get tough God will provide comfort. I say no more…no less. Anything else postulated from my statements will exaggeration or miscited. The Bible is my evidence whether you recognize it being so or not.