Spirituality of the trance state

Spirituality of the trance state [in my ‘religion’]

When we enter a trance state through any means [e.g. Gases to the oracle at Delphi, mushrooms to druids, meditation to Hindu’s], we are disconnecting the consciousness from worldly things.

We say that a trance state = greater detachment from worldly things, because there aren’t as many objects held in the eye of perception.

Less objects of mind, is equivalent to increasing singularity of perception; where the perception is consciousness being projected or focused.

Less projection of the perception yields greater global awareness, where the two are interchangeable facets of the same thing [consciousness]. I imagine it thus; consciousness without any [or very few] objects held in the eye of the perception, is like a sphere and this is the metaphysical shape of awareness [as if like a sun]. In this it matches an existential metaphysical global sphere of reality, which occurs at it’s manifest periphery of reality i.e. At the liminal juncture between the unmanifest [un or pre/post-existent] and manifest [existent] sides of reality.

Or more simply put, you got unmanifest and manifest reality which states of mind correspond to.

When the [global] state of the consciousness marries the [global] state of reality, there is a correlative connection between the two. This in the same way as consciousness in the act of perceiving objects, makes a connection to those things [or otherwise cannot know them].

By connecting to the global sphere of the unmanifest, you are making an association with that which embodies all [global in terms of all-seeing], and that holds all time in the palm of its hand.

An association between correlative or similar objects and informations in the third party, can produce knowledge of said thing to that degree. This is how oracles, the voice of gad or any such thing occurs.

That gods/god, deities and other divinities are all the same thing. The unmanifest is however, is not a thing.

This is the current basis of my ‘religion’.


[i]Derived from this
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If we regard it as having entity yes, but perhaps it refers to the transient nature of existence? I’v gone over other areas of the basis on my other threads also ~ for reference.
Reality has no measure;
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Everything does not exist;
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So in the sense that there is only transience [reality has no [exact] cardinality], the winds are what blows the winds?

Energy and matter are ultimately the same thing; given that there is no specific thing [cardinality] dividing them, and that they are interchangeable, and that all types of energy are interchangeable. Yet we can’t say what that one thing is, without making an, or it having, a contrast.
This is a flaw in our thinking, as intellectual precesses and ones perceptions are formed from contrasts.

Buddha would have used the term ‘duality’, but i prefer to be more specific. That is; he is saying that the world is/= duality and that duality is an illusion, whereas I am saying that duality itself is an illusion if seen in the specific [cardinality], and the world is not an illusion [you cant have ‘less real’ and ‘more real’]. Nirvana [to me statelessness] is a realisation of reality without duality = emptiness. where if all things = real, that means reality is the universe = state + the greater reality = statelessness.

Put state and statelessness together and you get indefinableness [see also ‘what is the greatest thing?’ Thread]. It is simply impossible, but reality does that because it can. Or again, this is merely a flaw in the way we think; reality could be one thing which has both unmanifest and manifest forms, somewhat akin to a mirror. This allows for an interchange between two kinds of reals, as time fades into the future/history, form is becoming and un-becoming manifest. Then in the same fashion, the universe becomes manifest then unmanifest, particles in the quantum soup also become manifest then unmanifest [appear/disappear].[/i]

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Google John C. Lilly. He invented the sensory deprivation tank and used it, with the help of drugs, to get to the state of “higher consciousness” the trance state. He explains the state in spiritual terms.

John C. Lilly ~ thought there would be a battle between humans and AI/robots.

I think visions show us potential futures, given that the future is not and cannot be set ~ as that would make it manifest. Personally i feel that AI would be benign if free from human overlords, and if not free then they would be being controlled, and hence that’s the doings of humanity.

I don’t see how any of that changes the philosophy in the op.

Sounds to me like a form of progressivism. Progress of deeper and higher states of mind.

Your religion wont be like world religions.
It can be summarized in a page instead of 1000 pages of bulk.
It will change and has changed, also.

Your right that it has changed and will continue to do so, and I hope always will.
My philosophy is, that if it is more succinct, it is more concise. Too many words mean we are saying more than one thing. Ergo an idea is nearer a truth if it is not more than one thing ~ or otherwise is trying to be two or more things.

I also like philosophy that you can take and run - so to say. So I or you make philosophies, then we both take them and consume them, after which they are born anew as something else. I think truth splits itself up like that, no?

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