Staggerthinkers:

Staggerthinkers:

Constantly faced with the task of explaining and expressing their thoughts to others, they begin to express and explain their thoughts to themselves in a similar way as they do with the people around them. This causes an extra unnecessary step in the thinking porcess, which is: flawed-internal-first-impressions and unnecessary analysis. It is a constant obstacle upon the [ideally] direct path of inner-thought.
“I think for you, instead of thinking for myself.”

The root of critical thinking is the ability to think to one’s self in the same way that one would communicate to another, so that the self-critic in the brain can listen and criticize the internal thought stream as though it came from another individual.

Reason is developed socially; believe it or not you are not a rock nor an island of reason. Therefore it is only natural that much of our thought be expressed in a social and linguistic format, oriented towards communicating to others.

In the process of trying to communicate to others as though they were listening within our own minds, we are able to more truly communicate with ourselves; for we are all both minds and outsiders listening to our minds at work.

But I suppose this is all lost on one who lacks any semblance of ability to think critically. I guess I will stagger back to my staggerthinkers while you continue to fly in the astral plane…

Self-observation is NOT self-image or language or proof-protocol, thank you…

I think I’m talking towards the next step in self-realization, which is not dependent upon the slow witted perceptions of outsiders. This can only be done when one knows thyself.

I feel like you came into my subject from a critical angle. Let’s go strait in with this. I know that we learn most from eachother, and that’s how allot of things inside of us develop, but sometimes we need to just let to of eachother for a while and do things in our own, special way.

I constantly feel the need to explicate or expound on current ideas. This becomes more obvious when putting it all down on paper - terms used beg explanations, which in turn need clarification. This is what you might call staggerthinking, which in turns makes me a staggerthinker.

Is it a bad thing ? Personally, I believe that a higher awareness of self and other whatnots is obtained by gradually superseding contradictions, through a dialectical process.

In this respect, I’m proud of being a staggerthinger. Although, occasionally, this leads to being a stammerthinker.

I usually don’t even think. I feel and then try to make sense with mind. Explaining what I’m then thinking is really dependant on whether or not I understand the concept in it’s totality. If so then the method that I use to express is irrelevant, because understanding in totality means I can see from any angle. Seeing from any angle means that I am able to express an idea from the perspective of the listener. Whether or not the listener can grasp what I’m saying is dependant on whether I have a real understanding - a real experience. Thus, I place emphasis on feeling.

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I never said it was good or bad, but I’ve guessed that You might think for the sake of others. Having a thought process custom-taylored for external expression, though it can be purely an internal process.

As I’ve said to others, I guess that subliminal processes only consciously manifest as an emotion. So I’m guessing that you use the deeper parts of your mind more often/regularily?

That sounds like having a total understanding of both the information and the listener which you would be expressing yourself to.
[size=75][ubber genious :laughing: ][/size]

This is still two different mental tasks.

Task 1:
Having understanding of the information.

Task 2:
Having understanding of how to express the information to the listener.

But, IMO, the staggerthinking starts when a person begins to try to make ineffable or inexperiencable information humanly-communicatively-expressable. It’s like having an internal, beurocratic filter on Your own thought-flow+awareness.

I’m not saying this is good or bad, but I’m guessing this is potentially a side-effect of human-survival-mental-expressive-perceptive-interdependancies.

LA, have you been practicing some forms of meditation?
I think you have. :wink:

Thanks to mass media and television and the “security blanket” of IMs and the internet, are any of the so-called “postmodern” generations capable of linear and analytical thought? No. Why? I’m one of them and I can vouch for my own generation when I say that we (the majority of us) are not able to think for ourselves. I’m not saying that my entire generation is mindless, just the majority. Sorry

There are many ways in which a person can express information, but I see many tend towards #1 of the two ways that I’m going to list.

1:
A message which is intended to be “swallowed-whole”.
[Though swallowing something which comes out of another person’s body is usually only a thing which some lovers do, when they love, accept and trust eachother.]
[size=75]How much to do you love, accept and trust your TV? Or your politicians?[/size]

2:
A message which is offered, meant to be considered, but not stated as if it were a universal fact.

ex:
“Lemons are sour.” :1
vs:
“I think that lemons are sour, because that is how they taste to me.” :2

ex:
“There is no God.” :1
vs:
“I cannot yet find satisfactory evidence for the existence for a Creator.” :2

#2 tends to be less like – thinking for others; Less conformist.

And dreams…

Experience.

If one is able to know the thing, then expressing it must be effortless. I would imagine - I am thinking - that the adept wouldn’t even think about it until the moment to express it arrived. Then one uses whatever is available in that moment to express. Wisdom.

Who hasn’t?

A