Ten Beliefs...

…that it would be entirely unreasonable not to hold.

Despite some well-known thought experiments and hypotheses that various really smart philosophers have floated from time to time, often to make a specific point and not necessarily to be taken seriously out of context, there are some beliefs that would be unreasonable not to have. This is not a top ten list. It is not exhaustive. It’s in no particular order. I’m just taking a few seconds to jot out a post, hoping that someone will disagree. Or perhaps tell me that my list has some wrongheaded perspective, some skewed paradigm, some “meta” flaw.

You know - the usual.

  1. We share extremely similar experiences of what can only be a world outside our senses.

  2. We know some things. By any reasonable definition of “know”.

  3. Everyone we call “sane” has some sense of right and wrong that we, at some level, agree upon.

  4. We can live good lives without ever reaching metaphysical certitude about anything.

  5. We know we exist.

  6. We know the world doesn’t disappear when we’re not looking.

  7. Science produces reliable knowledge. Sometimes, at least.

  8. Donald Trump is a fuckwad.

  9. So is Hillary.

  10. Our intuitive notion of causation is probably correct, if not universally applicable.

Discuss.

I’ve heard you’re a philosophy professor or something to that extent in real life. If I could get away with that sort of populist dumbed down garbage philosophy for the masses and make $50,000.00 or more a year I would do that too.

I mean, that I can definitely see the appeal of pulling stuff out of my ass for a living with comfortable ease and getting paid a lot of money to do so. I bet the college students just eat that drivel right up.

And there we have it. The usual…

I am not teacher of any kind, BTW.

It seems like less than 10 beliefs, or well, less than 8…

1, 5 and 6 seem to me a single belief or model…of perception I would say. Perceptions are of similar subjects of a real set of objects out there.

This belief is closely tied to 2 and 7 and 19, which tend to be very close also to each other, at least for many people.

Like we could have a diagram with a subject --------- perception -----------------object
then a second belief focused on adding in time and repetition of perceptions.

I assume ‘good lives’ means something like, have a nice time, raise kids, have a social life. Not like a moral life, say.
But almost regardless I do not think this is true. Or at least it would be hard to test, because nearly everyone I meet has metaphysical certitude. And a lot of those who don’t seem rather anxious. The metaphysical certitude may have to do with what they consider to be for all purposes unbelievably unlikely, given their beliefs about the two beliefs I compressed above from your 6 beliefs. IOW they may leave a door open, a kind of due to my epistemology, I must however stop short of ruling out…kinda thing, but by how they live, communicate and react to people who have certitudes (other than their own I would say) their lack of certitude is functionally indistinguishable from them.

8 and 9 are metaphysically and otherwise certain.

Thank goodness for that then.

I’d assert that we perceive what actually exists in the "objective world. So does my cat.
Metaphysics is mere guesswork unless it is an extension of physics.

Hi, Ierrellus. I don’t share your terminology, but isn’t that pretty my “1)”?

Now all we need do is be in sync on the precise definition of these words. Definitions that we can all agree on “at some level”. :wink:

Moreno - I’d say that 1, 5 and 6 can be consistent with the same model, sure. But 5 and 6 represent somewhat more developed notions about knowledge and not just about perception. of course, these points are all tied together. Call it naive realism.

“Good life” can remain undefined for my purposes here. Individuals may decide that issue for themselves. It’s a point perhaps about religion. “Metaphysical certitude” is nonsensical to me, which is my point in that claim. There are no open doors when it comes to metaphysical certitude.

From a philosophical idealist or social utopian? Lots of luck. :wink:

iam - as you probably know, I do not think we need precise definitions here. For example, we do not need to define 100 types of lies to know that people do lie.

How much money does the good life cost? Can most people afford it?

Okay…

Jack says that homosexuality is immoral.
Jill says that homosexuality is moral.

Which one of them is lying?

This as opposed to saying that Ellen DeGeneres or Neal Patrick Harris is a homosexual is a lie.

Iam, way to miss my point. We can talk if you’d like to address my point. But that’s just not what you do, is it.

I’m still waiting for a cost analysis for acquiring the good life Faust.

I’m still waiting for you to say something philosophically relevant about my post.

Humanist drivel with a touch of idealism. Now, can you answer my question?

Okay, Assclown. How much does it cost where? Are we using exchange rate or purchasing power parity? US currency or local if not in the US? You want the cheapest, the mean, the high end or an average? If you have a point, perhaps you can make it in a more emotionally healthy, adult way, and not in a girlish, passive aggressive way.

No offense to girls.

I knew you would be the first one to crack. Assclown? :laughing:

No, I just wanted you to admit in this thread that the good life isn’t afforded to everybody and I succeeded in getting you to do so. Thanks for playing chump.