Hi Bessy and Tab. Whats new? Havent heard from you in a while. Whatcha gonna do and eat for thanksgiving? Bessy it’d be cool if you could like post up pics like you did last time. Hint Hint. As far as Im concerned, Im much more concerned about the dessert portion. Oh yeah Tab you don’t have thanksgiving this time of year huh…Oh well…
Sorry I am not Bessy or Tab, They both seem to be pretty busy right now, new jobs and New baby for Tab, respectively. So I hope that I can step in until they get here if that is alright?
This year my husband wishes fried turkey for holiday meals. First problem, No way am I going to attempt such a dangerous feat. Second he did not order one 3 weeks in advance. So chuckling to myself, he is SOL on fried Turkey. I prefer the more traditional Midwest to Western meal rather than the Southern fried, creamed,overly sweet and cajun spiced one, that folks down here consider traditional.
Regular Turkey
Regular stuffing, not cornbread or oyster or anyother.
Mounds of Mashed potatoes
tons of warm dinner rolls with piles of soft butter
Green bean casserole
hot buttered corn to stir into the potaotes and gravy on your plate.
Cranberry sauce
Bucket of Brown, emphasizing Normal Brown Turkey Gravy, not spiced with Cajun spices.
of course the vegie and Cheese platters
Pumpkin and Pecan pies 2 each. Lots and lots of whipped topping
This is my ideal holiday dinner served at 1:00P.M. or 2:00P.M. at the latest in the afternoon, Which is why it is called dinner not supper.
I think serving time is almost as important as the meal itself.
Thanks for remembering, PG. I will get some photos up by Friday. I am baking all day today.
Menu:
We drink hot apple cider with Jack Daniels all day long while we are cooking…
Roasted 18 lb chicken (we hate turkey)
Mashed potatoes
The Best Sara Gravy in the world
Sage sausage and water chestnut stuffing
Hot sweet and sour red cabbage
creamed pearl onions
Carrots with horseradish sauce
peas
acorn squash with brown sugar glaze
cranberry sauce
Sour cream apple pie (sweet crust)
Pumpkin pie
Pumpkin bread
Ginger cookies
Happy Thanksgiving to you all!
an 18 pound chicken?!?
damn!
what kind of worms on steroids do they eat?
-Imp
Oh that sounds soo good! O.k. I’m hungry. Time to boil some eggs :\
Underground Man,
You are adorable.
I would like a number of live 18lb. chickens, what watch dogs they would make. Cheap to feed and care for too. As if we are not eccentric enough. 
And its usefullness goes on after it dies, yum. Question though, do 18 lb chickens eat cats?
Yum–that all sounds pretty yummy. I bought fresh cranberries this year for the first time and I dont know what to do with em. I never heard of cranberry pie before…anywho…I’ll look up a recipe…Happy Thanksgiving!
Ummm, for all you obviously not-cihcken-ranchers: 18 lb chickens are indeed possible. The birds are roosters than have had a special surgical procedure. 
They’re called capons. They can beat the crap out of anything in the barnyard, they just aren’t capable of fertilizing eggs - anymore. 
It has always been a tradition for me and the fellas to bring moonshine and small-pox infested blankets to various indian individuals on the Cherokee reservation. Its our way of thanking them for all those pointers they gave us which helped us become so successful with agriculture, after we arrived from Europe.
This year, however, we are going to just eat a dinner, and we will thank god for there only being 3.8 million starving people in the world rather than 3.9, and that we are not included in that number.
On that day of giving, so shall be my thanks.
Detrop,
Be careful. Someone might actually see the heart of you, and there would go all your hard work. Nice post. 
I’m with you detrop. This thanksgiving I’m inviting the neighbors, feasting with them on turkey and stuffing, and then murdering them and taking all their land.
Oh Shuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut Uuuuuuuupppppppppp 
why? thanksgiving is very offensive to some of us.
"Most of us associate the holiday with happy Pilgrims and Indians sitting down to a big feast. And that did happen - once.
The story began in 1614 when a band of English explorers sailed home to England with a ship full of Patuxet Indians bound for slavery. They left behind smallpox which virtually wiped out those who had escaped. By the time the Pilgrims arrived in Massachusetts Bay they found only one living Patuxet Indian, a man named Squanto who had survived slavery in England and knew their language. He taught them to grow corn and to fish, and negotiated a peace treaty between the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag Nation. At the end of their first year, the Pilgrims held a great feast honoring Squanto and the Wampanoags.
But as word spread in England about the paradise to be found in the new world, religious zealots called Puritans began arriving by the boat load. Finding no fences around the land, they considered it to be in the public domain. Joined by other British settlers, they seized land, capturing strong young Natives for slaves and killing the rest. But the Pequot Nation had not agreed to the peace treaty Squanto had negotiated and they fought back. The Pequot War was one of the bloodiest Indian wars ever fought.
In 1637 near present day Groton, Connecticut, over 700 men, women and children of the Pequot Tribe had gathered for their annual Green Corn Festival which is our Thanksgiving celebration. In the predawn hours the sleeping Indians were surrounded by English and Dutch mercenaries who ordered them to come outside. Those who came out were shot or clubbed to death while the terrified women and children who huddled inside the longhouse were burned alive. The next day the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony declared “A Day Of Thanksgiving” because 700 unarmed men, women and children had been murdered.
Cheered by their “victory”, the brave colonists and their Indian allies attacked village after village. Women and children over 14 were sold into slavery while the rest were murdered. Boats loaded with a many as 500 slaves regularly left the ports of New England. Bounties were paid for Indian scalps to encourage as many deaths as possible.
Following an especially successful raid against the Pequot in what is now Stamford, Connecticut, the churches announced a second day of “thanksgiving” to celebrate victory over the heathen savages. During the feasting, the hacked off heads of Natives were kicked through the streets like soccer balls. Even the friendly Wampanoag did not escape the madness. Their chief was beheaded, and his head impaled on a pole in Plymouth, Massachusetts – where it remained on display for 24 years.
The killings became more and more frenzied, with days of thanksgiving feasts being held after each successful massacre. George Washington finally suggested that only one day of Thanksgiving per year be set aside instead of celebrating each and every massacre. Later Abraham Lincoln decreed Thanksgiving Day to be a legal national holiday during the Civil War – on the same day he ordered troops to march against the starving Sioux in Minnesota.
This story doesn’t have quite the same fuzzy feelings associated with it as the one where the Indians and Pilgrims are all sitting down together at the big feast. But we need to learn our true history so it won’t ever be repeated. Next Thanksgiving, when you gather with your loved ones to Thank God for all your blessings, think about those people who only wanted to live their lives and raise their families. They, also took time out to say “thank you” to Creator for all their blessings."
manataka.org/page269.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_Movement
eatel.net/~wahya/thksgvg.html
-Imp
So
Get drunk and smoke peace pipes.
Merry thanksgiving all
Wow. Maybe if there had been fewer resources, the indians would have been trained up enough through internal strife to beat the shit out of the colonists. I mean, why didn’t they invent gunpowder and metallurgy? The only reason I can think of is because they didn’t fight each other enough.
“You’re as empty as the prayers around a thanksgiving table”- Malbus
(I love that one)
Imp, Thank you for reminding me of that truth. History is always written by the victor and so the victor gets poetic license. All should know tuth and face it with gratitude.
When I give thanks on any day and every day I give thanks for how lucky I have been. Family dies, I am grateful to have been in their life and they in mine. Someone gets injured, I am grateful it was not worse. Someone harms me or mine I am grateful if I can stand and defend or be successfull, if I fail I am grateful for what I have left.
So many people worldwide suffer far more than I do everyday, I am grateful for lessons I learn from such suffering and try work to apply those lessons.
The one true day of thanks will be when all violence and wars end. When humans come to gather in peace and acceptence. On that day, I and or my descendents will be tearfully heartwrenchingly grateful.
If any of you give thanks , give thanks that you can breathe and be able to type words of peace throughout the net. Let peace begin with the average human on the net, no dissent , no strife, just friendship and acceptence of differences. May we all live to see a future of lasting peace.
