Well you claimed it here:
“I’ve laid out how agnostics don’t really know, or continue to know, themselves, because they (somehow) know what they cannot know.”
I’ll agree with the quote in the OP. Agnosticism is a powerful rhetorical tool. Rather than having to defend any given positive position, it claims that no information can be gained. It immediately puts the onus on the other party in a discussion. In that way, the agnostic can attack the belief systems of others while never having to defend their own.
Nasty stuff.
I made a chart showing my view on Theist, Atheist, Agnostic, Ignostic.
(Combining some views shown by others)
Direct image link: mini.dreamhosters.com/dot/GnosticChart.png
Unknown variables don’t really belong in a flow chart. As for ignosticism, it is a dumb, wholly contradictory ideology. Better than agnosticism, because it isn’t a rhetorical defense of another position. But still a terrible idea.
It’s just a chart. Not “flow” chart. I didn’t say it’s a flow chart, either.
I thought you were an atheist. Did you change your mind?
[EDIT]
So, you are Anti-God and Anti-(Theist, Ignostic, Agnostic).
And your response fits well in the chart.
Sorry if you didn’t like it.
If it isn’t a flow chart, why did you make it a flow chart? Poor organization there.
I didn’t have to put arrowheads.
It’s made automatically with Graphvis, using dot and digraph.
So, I could have put “edge [dir=none]” to make it without the arrowheads, or even without any line. And I tried different versions, but I liked the one with arrowhead, better.
And I think It’s informative. Now, we can see that you are Anti-“Poor organization” and using the perspective as the base for Anti-“GnosticChart(my chart)”, and it fits well.
In my case, I’m positively interested in my chart and thus Pro-“GnosticChart”.
I’m sure you are.
But a chart that is interesting to its creator may not engender broader interest.
Sure. It may, may not.
But I mainly make them for myself, and I don’t care a lot if there is “broader interest” or not.
Actually, the process of making it is fun (although it can also be painful in various way…) and often revealing that I think I’m going to make many other charts.
I’m now working on this one, which is related to the topic, a bit.
It’s a image map you can click, you you go to the source page (although links are mostly temporary one, at this moment)
mini.dreamhosters.com/HowToThink.html
Double post … sorry.
Now that is nice.