http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-scheer11jan11,0,5399604.story
N.G. I’m curious. Did you happen to here the reports that were coming out after the first beheading of an American (sorry I can’t remember the poor mans name, something Berg I think) that took exception to certain inconsistencies in his where abouts up to a month before he was executed. Certain facts like he was wearing a C.I.A. or USMP military issue prison jump suit (the same orange overalls that you see detainees at Guantanamo wearing) or that before he was reported being captured by insurgents that he was in military custody for two weeks before allegedly being released, or that in the video of the execution the men that are seen to do it have strangely western mannerisms (whatever the hell that means) and that the tape seemed highly edited, and certain doctors that saw it testified that the amount of blood that is seen is consistent with someone that has been dead for a small period of time, their reasoning being that if the heart was still pumping there would have been a lot more spray from the blood.
And sisnce I am on the topic of conspiricies, I might as well add that in June of 2001 certain state department officails met with taliban leaders to discuss the handing over of Bin Laden. The quote of the day from that meeting was “If you hand over Bin Laden we will carpet you with gold, if you refuse our demands, we will carpet you with bombs.” The DoD also new that it was necessary to start any military action in Afghanistan before mid-october, before the first snows hit the mountains, which is what they did, I believe it was oct 7th (could be wrong) of 2001.
So what’s the real, the actual truth, and not just the truth that seems to be? And if what Mr Curtis says is true, what are we being prepped for. I mean if this type of misinformation is actually occuring there is someone or a group of people who must be calling the shots. It leads me to very frightening thoughts, but I suppose that’s what conspiricies are supposed to do if you find a certain relevance in them.
I wasn’t aware of any of those problems. I think such questions are bound to occur when we hardly know who the enemy is in Iraq. Do you remember if that guy was a private contractor?
Berg was allegedly a private contractor looking for work/business for his telecommunications company.
here’s the link that a friend sent me via email in may.
Kuro5hin.org/story/2004/5/15/22827/0477
Edit: I was distracted when I wrote the above so I forgot to add explanation. It is a link to a site with 50 odd circumstances surrounding Nick Berg’s capture and execution. I have no idea if even one of them are true, but it is definately something worth considering as suspicious. I hate to think of what it points to, and the conclusions it forces one to make.
The capture and execution of Nick Berg is so convoluted it’s amazing.
It seems as though the man, (who was Jewish), was running around Iraq, (a place very certaintly hostile to America’s support of Israel) doing SOMETHING. The FBI had earlier warned him to get out of the country and had even detained him for something (of which nothing is quite known about) prior to his death.
I personally have no idea what he was doing there.
As for the Al-Quaeda question, the image of Bin Laden in my opinion is misinterpreted vastly by our media. Yes, I believe he organized 9/11, but all Bin Laden was in the past and to this present day is a mercenary-trainer.
He set up camps in Afghanistan to train non-Afghans to fight the most oppressive enemy at the time, the Soviets, with the help of the Americans.
Now, Bin Laden sees America as hostile because, again in my opinion, of it’s indirect and constant support of Israel.
Oh, the joys of conspiracy theories. They are beuatiful simply because they cannot be proved wrong.
‘There is no evidence that Mister Berg was interviewed by the FBI’: well, they’d destroy any evidence, wouldn’t they?
‘There are 50 odd circumstances surrounding his death.’: well, folks, if I was killed tonight, I’m sure one could find odd circumstances (for a start - why did he not catch his usual train?).
It always amazes me that given a choice between a simple explanation and a complicated one, people will go for the complicated one. I do not know the details of Berg’s murder, but it strikes me as entirley plausible that the guy was kidnapped and murdered because he was in the wrong palce at the wrong time. What’s so amazing about that? It happens all the time (just think of the poor guys who are run over when they croos the road - bad luck; if they’d been delayed on their way by 20 seconds, they still be alive). Now, if they work for the Government, it is suspicious…
Groan!
It’s easy to get to someone like Osama Bin Laden, his mind works similiar to Adolf Hitler. Because to me the “Arian” belief is similiar to the “2nd Jesus” belief. How they believe their one race, or country’s people has a special purpose. Like just show them its wrong what their doing and they’ll start to become desperate to prove their points. I.e. chopping heads off.
And just constantly seeing your face covered so not even your allies/family can see it, it will eventually break you, and make them forget about their/1stPerson own dignity.
“The bigger they come, the harder they fall.” Bad moral can cause drowsiness.
Back in November PaxVitae posted a few link to a BBC program that addressed this issue:
The Power of Nightmares: Baby It’s Cold Outside
The Power of Nightmares: The Phantom Victory
The Power of Nightmares: The Shadows In The Cave
from this thread:
ilovephilosophy.com/phpbb/vi … p?t=142014
I think anyone who was interested in this subject could benefit from them.
I also saved transcripts from the show(s).
If anyone wants them just PM me.
Well as stated earlier, if all this fear is being given to us, then for what porpose? I personally belive that they are pushing for global Government. Think about it, they would claim that the only way to stop terrorism would be to have a world police that would have power over the other sovern governments. Then they would want a world army to force other countries that didnt join the world government to join. This would lead to a major loss of rights and kill thousands of people. And the sick sob that orcastraited this would have imense amounts of power, able to kill anybody and do whatever he want to do. Plus he might fullfill an alternative motive which is to destroy capitalism ie. U.S. It would seem that we are already on this path with the UN as it was reinstated after the secong world war. Also after the first world war an organization which the UN was based on was presented to the US but smartly we declined the offer. Did you know that the UN has proposed a bill to the US that would cause us to lose all control over the oceans! they would be able to legislate and basically control our coastal or “Territoritly waters” and they could do what ever they wanted with the rest of the ocean now remember that the ocean covers 2/3 rds of the world and is a major sorce of food scienince and wealth nodules have import resorses in them and they cover the ocean floor. FTA has hurt out economy badly by cause many of our plant to either outsource to a foreign country or go out of business and the new trade act (the one we disagreed to in the first place) is being tried again. Also Rice has approved these acts and supports them vigorously. Bush has also supported the tyranous acts which greatly appals me. I only hope that american will take a stand and either get better officals to run out country or raise enough crap to get U.S. out of the UN. Well thats my speal if you have any arguments please feel free to criticize my post.