The cost of invading Greenland

I did not write this. It was written by Brent Molnar. This sounds bad, very bad.

The Suicide Pact: What Happens the Moment We Touch Greenland…

If the United States follows through on the threat to invade Greenland, we need to be crystal clear about what happens the next morning. This is not a real estate transaction or a routine military exercise. It is the geopolitical equivalent of pulling the pin on a grenade in a crowded elevator. The moment American boots hit the ground in Nuuk to seize territory from a fellow NATO member, the world as we know it ends. The consequences will not be temporary sanctions or angry letters. They will be total, permanent, and devastating.

The first domino to fall is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization itself. NATO is built on the sacred promise of Article 5, that an attack on one is an attack on all. If the U.S. attacks Denmark, we are not just breaking the treaty; we are triggering it against ourselves. NATO dissolves instantly. The alliance that kept the peace in Europe for 75 years evaporates, leaving the continent to rearm and realign against the new aggressor across the Atlantic. We don’t just lose an ally; we create a unified enemy.

The military repercussions will be swift and humiliating. Europe will immediately demand the closure of every U.S. military base on the continent. Ramstein in Germany, Aviano in Italy, Lakenheath in the UK, all gone. Our ability to project power into the Middle East and Africa vanishes overnight. We will be evicted from the very soil we helped liberate and defended for decades, forced to retreat to our own shores as a fortress nation, isolated and friendless.

Then comes the economic nuclear option. The European Union is the largest single market in the world, and they will weaponize it. Europe will likely move to call in U.S. debt and dump their dollar reserves, sending the value of our currency into a death spiral. The U.S. economy, which relies on the dollar being the global reserve currency, will collapse. Inflation will make the post-COVID spikes look like a rounding error. Your savings will be worthless before the ink dries on the invasion orders.

Corporate America will face an extinction event. U.S. companies will be expelled from the European market. Apple, Google, McDonald’s, and Tesla will see their assets seized or their operations banned. Trillions of dollars in market capitalization will be incinerated in minutes. The stock market will not just crash; it will close. We are talking about the complete de-globalization of American industry, cutting us off from the wealthiest consumers on the planet.

The skies will go silent. European aviation authorities will almost certainly ground all Boeing jets and ban U.S. airlines from their airspace. Transatlantic travel will cease. If you are in Paris or Berlin, you are stuck there. The logistical arteries that feed our supply chains will be severed. We will be cut off from European medicine, machinery, and technology. We will be an island nation in the worst possible sense.

The cultural isolation will be just as stinging. The International Olympic Committee and FIFA will have no choice but to bar the United States from competition, just as they did with Russia. There will be no World Cup matches in New Jersey. There will be no Team USA in the Olympics. We will be treated as a pariah state, unwelcome on the global stage, forced to watch the world celebrate without us.

For individual Americans, the consequences will be personal and painful. Visa-free travel to Europe will end immediately. Americans currently living or working in Europe will lose their legal protections and residency status. They will become persona non grata, potentially facing deportation or internment. The “blue passport” that used to open every door will suddenly be a red flag at every border crossing.

This is the end of trust, and it does not reset. You cannot invade a democratic ally and then say “my bad” four years later. The psychological break will be permanent. Europe will realize that the United States is no longer a partner but a predator. They will build their own defense architecture, their own financial systems, and their own alliances that specifically exclude us. The West will continue, but the United States will no longer be part of it.

Invading Greenland is not a show of strength; it is an act of national suicide. We are trading our reputation, our economy, and our security for a frozen island and a handful of minerals we can’t even process. The price of this real estate deal is everything we built over the last century. If we cross this line, there is no going back. We will be the lonely superpower, ruling over nothing but our own decline.

By Brent Molnar

K: just a thought about where we are heading…

Kropotkin

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@Peter_Kropotkin

The European nations will capitulate, they’re weak and spineless where a majority have been United States vassal states since the end of World War II.

They’ll bend the knee.

Now, is it wrong to absorb Greenland under the United States against the will of Greenlanders? Sure it is, but it will happen regardless.

The powerful nations eat the weaker smaller ones, a tale as old as human civilization itself.

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MrAuthoritarian:
The European nations will capitulate, they’re weak and spineless where a majority have been United States vassal states since the end of World War II.

They’ll bend the knee.

K: in my neighborhood, we call that wishful thinking… they have to fight
back… they don’t really have any other choice…

Kropotkin

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This is a bad thing?

Trillions of dollars in market capitalization will be incinerated in minutes. The stock market will not just crash; it will close. We are talking about the complete de-globalization of American industry, cutting us off from the wealthiest consumers on the planet.

The end of capitalism? A new era of socialism?

The skies will go silent. European aviation authorities will almost certainly ground all Boeing jets and ban U.S. airlines from their airspace. Transatlantic travel will cease.

Reduces carbon emissions at least.

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in my neighborhood, we call that wishful thinking… they have to fight
back… they don’t really have any other choice…

They will complain about it in the media but they won’t take any military action. Russia wants to destroy Europe and they wouldn’t take an existential risk of a military fight against their only savior.

Also, the things you talked about already happened, last year, with the trump tariffs. I wanted to support the European economy by buying from European small businesses. I couldn’t, tariffs astronomical, hundreds of dollars to ship a cheap item. So much of the economics things you are warning that will happen, kind of sort of happened already.

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YOU are the United States of Arseholes. Look at yourself and ask youself why you arseholes do what you do.

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@Peter_Kropotkin

Europeans have lost the will to fight anything after World War II, all they do now anymore is surrender.

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@VictorMcCheeseEsq

A lot of us Americans oppose what our government is doing but are also powerless to do anything about it.

In our nation here domestically if you put up too much of a ruckus the government will do everything it can to destroy your life. Many examples of this that have transpired can be found.

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@MrAuthoritarian

I think Europe needs a strong American presence in Greenland.

It is simple. Russia threatens to nuke UK and Germany.

America installs a modernized, Americanized military installation in Greenland, as a FOB to launch aerial groups and naval support to Europe’s defense.

My wish is for all Greenlander’s to give up peacefully. None of this is worth any bloodshed over. If any Greenlanders die over this, it will only sour and foment US Greenland relations in the future.

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@futureone

The population of Greenland is like 40,000 people as most of the territory is unhabitable. It won’t be much of a fight if the United States sends a military detachment to occupy it.

Is it wrong? Sure, but in the nature of politics or even economics might unfortunately makes right.

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MrAuthoritarian, I see that you have learned well all of the critical teachings of your ILP avatar - Bizarro World Buddha.

Just out of curiosity, in Bizarro World, which number of the “Ignoble Eightfold Path” is “Might Makes Right” listed under?

Or is that one of the “Four Ignoble Truths”?

Good grief, the U.S. doing a hostile military invasion and takeover of Greenland (a NATO ally) is more than simply “wrong,” as you so casually and nonchalantly frame it,…

…it will remove any doubt to the rest of the world that America has fully devolved into a dangerously rogue and pariah state and will represent one of the final nails in the coffin of our little experiment in democracy.

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@seeds

I don’t believe might is right if that is what you’re asking, but what I or others believe in is irrelevant discussing a situation of geopolitics where greater power is exerted. I try my best to be a moral and ethical man compassionate but I am also a realist regarding the harsh realities of this world.

Might being right is everything that is wrong with this world, I hope that clarifies things.

I also said taking over entire nation states is wrong, you’ve must of missed that part

The glowing eyes is my rendition of wisdom piercing reality.

Yes, and I would argue the United States is on the verge of total collapse. It has been my mantra for basically twenty years straight now.

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This is true. And it is also true that many many Americans support what the government is doing. I know people who think Trump should take Greenland because of “national security”. But really they just believe anything he says and justify it retroactively with rationalization and psychological tricks / logical fallacies like denial, evasion and shifting the goalposts.

Think about how many countries the US has invaded, how many millions of innocent people murdered by US bombs and bullets all around the world? Now people are upset about Greenland just because it is a formal ally of the US? True that does make a difference. But the fact of US tyranny and mass murder / imperial colonialism has been going on for a very long time. Most Americans do not care very much because they understand on some level this is what funds their high standard of living. US dollar dominance around the world, that is the magic trick that keeps Americans living large. And most Americans do not care about anyone else anywhere else in the world or what they are experiencing or living through. As long as Americans can eat delivery pizza and watch Netflix they are happy.

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“Weak and spineless”? Europeans are people trying to create an atmosphere in which people can just live their lives after centuries of bloodshed. I cannot express my contempt enough for idiots that cannot accept that it is precisely the inability to let people live and flourish which is the EVIL in the world.

I couldn’t use enough expletives to show my contempt for people unwilling to cooperate and build a future for all, but have to exploit, extort, suppress and oppress other people. Your name suggests you are one of those people and I spit on your name.

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And the petrodollar ensures that the US dollar stays the most dominant by a mile. Saddam Hussein wanted to change that and we all know what happened to him and Iraq as a result. American greed and selfishness has fucked up the world.

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Trump tweeted that he would attack Greenland as retaliation for not getting the ‘‘Noble’’ (yes, that’s how he spelt it) Peace Prize. It would be hilarious if there was no chance that he would do it but he seems to have lost the small amount of sanity that he had left.
Surely even Americans can get THAT irony :face_with_bags_under_eyes:

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@Bob

Yes, Europeans are weak and spineless challenging the United States.

Context of statements is everything my man.

I am just a man who believes in a benevolent dictatorship because I view democracy having an inability to fix much of anything.

Everywhere democracy is collapsing and its supporters haven’t a slightest clue about anything. I support a moral and ethical dictatorship that ultimately cares about humanity willing to do whatever is necessary to preserve it away from bad actors.

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You are just a vassal of your dictator, but if we stood opposite each other, you would back down. America is only strong because of its military equipment and it uses it at will. Never tell me that America was always a force for peace, it was always about world domination, spreading capitalism and filling the pockets of a few to the detriment of the many. When Britain faltered and lost its empire, America jumped in and took over.

America even delayed joining the war against Hitler because 1) there were many people hoping for Germany to win, and 2) they knew Britain would no longer be a world power regardless of how it went. American Christian Nationalist also gave the Zionists the hope of taking Palestine and it was never about a two-state solution among those who actually had a say in the matter.

You are part of this authoritarian movement, despite your bleating about liberals and your betrayal of Buddhist teaching. You are the weak individual who couldn’t stand up to ICE if they came knocking on your door and would betray anyone for your own safety. Don’t talk to me about weakness, you are the pitiful embodiment of it.

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@Bob

You don’t understand my views and beliefs at all where you don’t make any attempt to even try.

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@Bob

And who is the dictator of the United States?

Is it Donald Trump? Is it somebody else?
I didn’t vote for the guy, you cannot pin that on me.

I agree with your statement of comparing former Great Britain to the United States.

Why do you think that is? Why do you think global conquest and domination is an obsession from one empire to another constantly?

Of course whether you see it or not nationalism is the only political bulwark against such tyrannical globalism.

I am not Trump supporter, I have made that abundantly clear for anybody who takes the time reading my posts. Likewise I am a big critic of political liberalism which I view as being philosophically flawed.

I always ask every liberal democrat the same question where I can never get an adequate response, what is the plan for when democracy inevitably collapses? What is the fallback position regarding that?

Never a response on that subject concerning liberal democrats.

I never said ICE was a perfect organization, so there’s that. The liberal political disposition of zero foreign immigration intervention is deeply flawed. Without enforcing laws on immigration you’re inviting a lot of chaos into society. I find the liberal political position on this to be incomprehensible.

Also, while I may be authoritarian in my approach to politics and government structure I am the biggest critic of economic capitalism along with being the biggest supporter of the working poor. To lump me with these international capitalists is very insulting.

I am a critic of Zionism as well, to lump me with them is laughable.

Of course you guys love to criticize my Buddhist beliefs without ever inquiring what they are. A favorite thing amongst users on this forum lately.

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