If God can only be good and has free will , then why not we? Do not special plead 
! If one is free yet cannot do wrong , then why not here with the horrid tests that make God appear to be a Nazi doctor experimenting on victims . Nelson Pike in 'God and Evil." ,with the standard repsonse ,claims that we would be mere robots if we could only do good and John Hick makes the all or nothing fallacy and straw man fallacy of stating that we want paradise . Here with this argument- the Meslier-Martin-Lamberth challenge - I take his notion of Heaven as paradise ,hoisting him on his own petard 
The best response your going to get is that he has free will within a limit; that he created free will, and since free will is inherently âfree,â then he canât really mess with it. He has limits.
=D> But that misses the point as to original creaton of mankind .It would be the same in Heaven .
heaven is a perfect place,⌠so their would be no need to put people in their place, because people would automatically know what is wrong before they did wrong. Thus free will would be the choice to do right in the face of wrong.
No it wouldnât. Mankind was derived from Adam and Eve, and follows a timeline.
Heaven doesnât have a timeline, because itâs timeless there. There is no âtimeâ there.
=D> Adam and Eve are just a myth. Just special pleading .There is no reason for the tests as they convey a Nazi doctor experimenting on victims .Do the victms of the Holocaust recienve bonus points ? Soul-making is valueless and the epistemic argument that God has to be distant from manking for them to freely love Him is nonsense as it does not have to love Him! It is not what God wants ,but what is morally right. Just parents do not set their children in dangerous places to test them !
It doesnât matter whether or not Adam and Eve exists, the fact remains that we are on a timeline while God isnât.
That is speculation and irrelevant and special pleading. As the tests bespeak Nazi experiments on victims, there are no reasons for them and thus no reason that matters should be different.If Lucifer were thrown, then humans could be thrown out and the conditions would be the same.Only there is no such god .
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Who cares what those guys say or think, logic already debunks the first statement therefore the whole premise is based on a false foundation.
Here is the problem.
ââŹĹGod can only be goodââŹÂ
No, not true, God cannot give us free will to choose to do right or wrong if he does not have the same choice, the difference is that God always chooses good over evil because he fully understands it and the consequences, we have to learn this through cause and effect.
And your evidence of this is based on ancient text written by superstitious men, how solid is that?
=D> The story was just to make a point .Anyway , one special pleads to give that power but not to people. So, people should have that power.Case closed ! =D>
What power, what the hell are you talking about?
If you spent less time putting those little emoticons in there and acting like you just slam-dunked someone with your superior knowledge your point might be more legible.
Since I already qualified my statement by exclaiming that we have choice and God has choice the same I cant imagine what power your talking about.
I speak of the power of his kind of choice which humans should have also rather than through trial and error. Otherwise , one special pleads . Theodicy is just one dodge after another ! Did the vicims of the Holocaust get bonus points for their suffering .The enthusiasts for Heaven insist on free will and no wrongdoing there and I just take them at their bluff .It is not a matter of all or nothing , which itself here is a straw man .
Humans do have the same kind of choice, they just donââŹâ˘t have the knowledge that God has, when you are around as long as God maybe you can choose correctly every time too.
Anything else you wish to complain about concerning Gods laws or the logic there of?
More special pleading . Anyone with real arguments ? 
What is special pleading?
seems like we are all speaking for god, âthis is what god saysâ and so on.
Why donât we just ask god to come to this thread and explain what he really thinks, since it seems like we are just making things up regarding what god thinks.
Ok, letâs all ask god to come down to this forum and set this straight. Ok, does anyone know âwhereâ he is these days? Does anyone have any contact info on him? his phone number or whatever?
Special pleading is saying something does not apply in one case as opposed to others when it really does . One special pleads when one states that the question how God came to be is a fallacy by begging the question that He is different from other beings in that regard without so showing .There is no reason to show that conditions in Heaven have to be different .The tests are unneeded . =D> God Himself would be a robot if we would be robots ! Sirswedishmike, that is the point of the hiddenness argument . God is so hidden that He does not exist ! According to John Hick, God hides Himself so as not to impinge on our free will - epestemic distance, which I see as just another dodge . Thanks everybody !
When did I ever say this is what God says?