The direction of Joker's raving philosophy.

I refuse the insistence that man must transcend somewhere or that he himself must transcend into somthing else from what he already is.

I believe reality is completely relative and that there is no sense in restraining ourselves to some narrow perceivement of some fantastical objective improvement especially when all we have is assumptions guided to us by other’s metaphysical absurdities.

I deny that there is any objective meaning in the cosmos beyond ourselves being physically alive and the death of our own individual existences over time.

There is no single universal mode for all people outside our present condition as there exists nothing but our historical situations.

I believe what is deemed “sacred” is the prime obstacle to our freedom ironically invented by our own imaginations.

I believe that in order to embrace freedom for what it is the world needs to be demysticized.

Only until we kill every God and idol will we rid ourselves of the absurdities that has hold us back throughout our histories.

(This includes the supernatural and the secular both.)

God was invented out of a traumatized psyche. It is time that men come to the understanding that we no longer need Gods or idols. Now is the time that everyone embraces their own will to power where they themselves can be masters here on earth.

Let us all become masters of our own lives. Let us hail ourselves as individual masters.

The beginning of time began not with relevations but instead with nothingness and ever since the cosmos has not spoken a word to us in its indifference.

I agree with demystification. And actually, I idealize the Greek and Roman systems of structure and philosophies. Describing Gods as humans actually makes sense to me for some reason…

I predict an Age of Reason in the future, depending on whether the human specie lasts long enough!

Don’t hope for an age of reason. Reason should always be subordinated to the movement of freedom.

Hope for an age of limitless freedom.

With freedom comes responsibility. Why is limitless freedom a benefit or something I should hope for?

The rest I agree with.

Responsibility is a moral judgement that I do not adhere to.

Responsibility is like saying that men must orchestrate particular acts in the motion of freedom.

In reality men shouldn’t do anything. You say men should be responsible. I will then ask, why? In which you will reply only with a useless moral conjecture.

I’ll do you one better… :wink:

And this concludes my discussion.

XD lol ha haww joker! he got you.

a very funny contradiction but sadly not a proper one :cry:

when he said let us become the gods of our own lives, he meant it in a state of mind kind of way (and not in some divine state of mind). he meant it in a demysticized sense

in the latter statement when he spoke of transcendence, it was geared towards divine enlightenment, not “clearing up a delusion” as i’m sure joker would like to put it :smiley:

XD lol that one is better… but just as inapt of the first :cry:

what joker meant to say was that only until we kill every god and idol that is not yourself

joker your beliefs truly are contradictory.

once you take away mans will to succeed what you have left is pitiful, degrading and all around just plain lazy.

with no will to succeed why not commit suicide? why are you on this site?

it pains me to say it but from a nihilistic point of view these 2 questions are impossible to answer without contradicting ones self

So I accidentally used God instead of master. I edited my post. Now what?

It was a simple mistake of words on my part. Oh well. I have edited my post.

If there is a perfect man amongst you, let them stand. If noone stands then bugger off.

Probably the same reason you don’t commit suicide.

when no because my view would contradict nihilism.

lol joker i don’t hate you or dislike you or have less respect for you because your a nihilist (though i do think nihilists are stinky)

i myself have some strange subjective views that you could probably puch a few holes through.

but nihilists sure do make good oponents in debates…

if there is a perfect man among us, let him sit. for he will have nothing left to accomplish.

Are you even aware that everyone is a nihilist? Most deny it.

I suggest that the living ones must have some doubts.

To believe in general is to believe in nothingness.

Ha, you can always tell when a man has gone stark raving mad, because he has acquired a train of interpreters.

You can always describe cowardice too especially when a person only insults because he lacks the might to actually debate or make a conversation. :sunglasses:

I always don’t have to worry about debates with Zeus for he always runs away behind a string of insults.