The Dusk of Reason

First of all, I want to ask you not to assume this is how I feel about this topic, I just wanted to post this, to see people’s differant ideas about it. I’m a man of too many minds to have a single, set opinion on something.

The Dusk of Reason

Reason alone has no more meaning than any dogma, religion, and always contains a fallacy. When I speak of reason, I refer more to moral reasoning, than what we might call scientific reason. What I call moral reasoning refers to why you should do any particular thing. When I refer this type of reasoning to dogma and religion, I mean that most reasons are guided toward a particular end the person is trying to convince themselves to be the ‘truth’, and then provided any kind of even logical ‘reasons’ why this is the ‘truth’. I say that each one has a fallacy, because every reason is dependant on another. Let’s use an example for both these points, by looking at the reasoning for why you should not do murder, something that would seem perfectly reasonable:

You should not commit murder, because the person you are killing is being harmed, without the person wishing it (the person does not wish to die). You should not inflict harm on people who do not wish for it, because you would not want someone to do this to you. You should not do things to others, that you would not have them do to you; because if everyone did this, chaos could be created. Chaos should not be created, because it risks the deaths of all human beings. Human beings should not all die, because they are intelligent creatures. Intelligence is important because with it many things can be done. The things that can be done is important, because it can help all walks of life, and the world. Life and the world is important because it is a rarity in the universe. The universe is important because it’s all there is. But why is existence, at all, ‘all there is’, important?

This is one of many reasoning strings, which even complicated, eventually leads to a loose end. Though the example may sound extreme, my point is that all reasoning is dependant on another reason; and will have to eventually end, as even this one did. Even though existence itself seems crazy to even ask why it matters, my point is to say that it still does not have a reason (and if a reason is made, that reason would still be dependant on another). Now, this poses the question if reasoning that goes in a circle is effective reasoning. That is to say, a string of reasons which eventually returns to the first reason. This however, is also a fallacy. For example, in it’s shortest form: ‘you should not kill, because it is wrong. Killing is wrong, because you should not do it.’ In this case, why killing is wrong is never really answered. For example, it could be done by saying ‘You should not eat seeds, because it is wrong. Eating seeds is wrong, because you should not do it’ or anything else the person wants. In other words, it’s nothing more than what we call word-play.

Further more, what I call ‘independent reasoning’ is also with it’s own fallacies, because it will not give any further reason to itself. For example, ‘you should not break the law, because breaking the law is against the law’. In this case as well. It does not answer the question as to why the law should not be broken, and it is also word-play; as it could be used to defend anything, for example: ‘Eating seeds is against the law, because your breaking the law if you eat seeds’.

My point is that moral reasoning seems dependant other reasons; and even if the string of reasons never reach an end, they will still have to go on infinitely, forever requiring further definition.

I’ve long seen Reason to be a ridiculous way of proving things.
This can be simply summed up by the fact that one can always ask “why?” one more time.

The place where one stops their lines of reasoning is simply a place where they want to be. It’s ridiculous to claim that one can arrive at a final conclusion out of pure reason. This would be a course taken on by someone wanting to feel like they stood as far away from potential personal bias as possible - but they fail to ask questions like, “isn’t wanting to be unbiased a bias?” and “did I actually succeed in being unbiased despite personally choosing to use and stick to reason?”
One always gives a lot away when they arrive at a conclusion.

What does this give away about me? I see psychology to be what directs reason - that it is capable of standing outside of reason as well as supporting the entirity of reasonable thought. That I want unreasonable, free and immediate impulsiveness to be recognised just as much as reason is because I trust myself to function most preferably inside and outside of reason - giving me unpredictable challenge as well as conceptual domination.
As this thread was intending to point out, this set of reasons I have just given are inevitably just circular. I prefer unreason as well as reason because this is what I prefer. I say it again: applying reason to get to a proof is just ridiculous. Perhaps I just want to laugh too.

I will point one further thing out: I don’t see lines of reason to simply ‘exist’ to be found only by reasonable thinkers - like a treasure hunt. Whilst I enjoy the hunt, and reasonably so does anyone who believes in “objectivity”, I prefer being creative: I see lines of reason to be invented by man. “Why?” is man’s invention from wanting to experience doubt so that he may reconcile it. His answer is an invention just as much as his question “why?” because as this thread tries to show, lines of reasoning iterate infinitely and it can always be written as a circular reasoning when one chooses to end his lines of reasoning.

From the time this reasonable inevitability is realised, any reasonable person who continues to venerate reason seriously disgraces himself.

This usurping of “truth” by “value” is a kind of Nihilism. The ends don’t lead anywhere and this is the end of many a flawed thinker. They reveal their love of depression through the fact that they know all end points are just as untrue - yet they stick fast to emptiness as their end point despite this. They also fail to see the means for what they can be seen as in favour of the ends: revealing their desire to die before they have even stopped living - which, in contradiction, is a kind of love for life.