Suicide is called “selfish” by some, because the ones who do not want to see their loved-one die – view that person’s taking of their own life – as an assault upon their expectations.
Wanting to control what someone else does with their life, isn’t that more “selfish”?
Due to the inter-connectedness of life on earth, when one person takes, the other person is at a loss.
For someone to become ritch, others must become poor.
Not takeing – is an indrect act of giving.
One basically says: “I will no-longer take things away, I will instead take myself away from this world.” One realizes the depth of error on earth, but does not commit violance to another. Instead, he simply ends his own flawed cycle of existence.
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What if all animals on earth did that? Then what? The plants would die, etc. The real problem on earth is that of moderation. Persons take too much, or give too much. Becoming absolutely unselfish, or becoming absolutely selfish – either of these cause suffering and death on earth. Disown them both. Stop giving in to extremism. Earth needs balance and sustainability.
I have to say, Dan, that I think “will” in the sense philosophers like to use it, is a fantasy. Be that as it may, to me the zero sum game concept is the issue. Overall I’m not really disagreeing with you per se, just clarifying my terms.
Missed the butterfly thread you cite. I’ll have to backtrack a bit.
As a closet existentialist/fatalist/borderline-nihilist I’m not sure it matters whether you love life. The end result is the same.
That’s just a nice rationalization. And the fact is, they are taking something away. By taking themselves away, they are removing any positive they could have done had the lived. Think it’s a wonderful life.
Life may not be worth anything, but I see suicide as weakness. The individual is too scared to live and has become too affected to function clearly, so they end themselves. Life is inexplicable, to attempt to explain it is to veer into nonsense, but somehow it happens. And to take it away from yourself voluntarily is to show that you have failed to reign in your emotions and you have failed to accurately see the world. The world has worn you down, and rather than muster up the self-preserving drive within you, you cowardly choose to back down and destroy yourself.
So, cheer up emo kids. And stop whining and do something.
