There’s nothing wrong with negativity, so long as it’s fruitful and productive, or has the potential to become fruitful and productive, negativity just means you have to change something or adapt somehow. Too much positivity in the face of adversity means you’re in a coma. I’m done with talking about conspiracies for now, there’s no point, if I comment on political or economic matters, it’ll be more about what I’m doing or going to do and less about what I think they’re doing or going to do. I’ve noticed there’s excess talk about them in the alternative media and deficient talk about us. When you talk all day long about them, you’re turning yourself into a mere passive observer of events as opposed to an active participant.
I’m not sure that he actually did assert that there is objectively healthy food, Gobbo that is. But there are certainly foods that are unhealthy for nearly all homo sapians. And then if conspiracy theorists - this would be everyone who does not think 9/11 was because of pilot errors - are asserted by Gobbo to not eat a lot of unhealthy food, either for them or for humans in general, this could actually be tested. It is not a meaningless generalization.
I think I eat pretty healthy.
So they’ve taken over our economic system and stolen trillions of dollars translates into - we need to eat healthy, no no no. Yes, we need to eat healthy, a pyramid is built from the bottom-up, not the top-down, the foundation is the gut. However, we need more than a change of waste-line and to feel and be healthier, we need to change the political and economic landscape, radically, and I think we should begin by exploring options way outside the norm, options that empower individuals and small groups as opposed to large corporations and institutions that can easily be infiltrated and subverted and have long since been infiltrated and subverted. The answers aren’t so obvious, not what we should eat and drink, and not what political and economic systems should be in place, if they were, we wouldn’t be in this mess we got ourselves into in the first place. Dieting requires more than research, it requires creativity, one has to sift through all the bullshit out there, utilizing common sense and ones own senses, both internal and external, to determine what’s effective for them and perhaps those with similar constitutions. Finding the right diet and lifestyle isn’t easy, it requires a great deal of effort, trial and error. Much needs to be discussed besides - them them them, they they they.
What if somebody wants to be an illuminati, mindless social slave-drone? Have you contheorists ever considered that possibility, that most of the NWO slaves actually want to be slaves, and enjoy their slavery? Have you considered that the illuminati food tastes better, or is better, than the contheorist food? While Alex Jones is busy filtering his water and screening his food, another half of the world is starving to death, and NWO food is just as good as anything else. Contheorists demonstrate a complete lack of empathy on this point, and privilege. Only privileged people can afford to filter water and screen “bad illuminati food”.
And I can almost assure you, without a doubt, that the contheorists do not doubt themselves. The contheorists do not consider “what if I’m wrong?” For all everybody knows, the illuminati food may just be better and healthier than the contheorist food. You don’t know. What are you, a nutritionist? Who sponsors you, the FDA?
When you know people are bullshitting you, because you’re following the Standard American Diet and/or you’re just eating whatever you want and you feel like shit, and your doctor does nothing but prescribe you drugs that make you feel even worse in the long run, what do you do? When you can’t rely on others, you rely on yourself, you put something in your belly, you monitor the effects, not just what’s going on on your tongue, but what’s going on in your belly, what’s going on with your sleeping patterns, how you feel the next morning, the next afternoon. You keep a journal, on paper or in your head, and you pick up hints and tips from others that’re doing the same.
In short, you become your own personal nutritionist for you, you eat with all your senses and not just with the one (the pallet), in addition to doing a shit ton of research, both from mainstream and alternative sources, ever mindful of internal contradictions and inconsistencies, as well as information that contradicts your experiences and the principles you’ve derived from them. In short, you generalize, you become more self-reliant, self-sufficient. I wouldn’t advocate placing your life in your doctors hands, or in a naturopaths hands, certainly not entirely, maybe a little with one you think and feel you can trust or if there’s an emergency. To summarize, you generalize, you become your own this, you become your own that, which is not to say you necessarily become an island or a hermit either. As for the people starving in the third world, I personally don’t give a fuck at this point, it’s not my problem, I have plenty of my own, we’re all responsible for ourselves in this walk of life, primarily, not the entire world.
I just feel that Gobbo is being unfair and hypocritical. If a man wants to stick a needle full of heroin in his veins, or eat at MacDonald’s daily, then who denies him this right to defile himself? He says what a man can or cannot do? Who says that a man ought not to waste his life with gluttony and mindless pleasure?
The contheorists, that’s who. The contheorists want to tell you what food is “safe and unsafe”, what you should or should not eat or drink. The contheorists are mirroring the exact illuminatis they claim to hate and detest. The anti-imperialists are hiding their own imperialism. Alex Jones should not dictate what water I drink. If I want NWO water, then so be it! Alex Jones is not my master. And if people want to have the illuminati as their masters, then why not? People should have the Right, to choose, to be healthy or unhealthy.
Alex Jones and the contheorists are trying to take away our rights to be unhealthy and sick. So, they should be fought on this ground. The contheorists want to “purify the water”. What if I like my water flavored, and poisoned? Contheorists don’t care. They need fuel for their fearmongering. Gatorade is evil.
Because they have diarrhea of the mouth, they try to act like their cutting edge political while their magazine is filled to the brim with superficial pop culture Bullshit.
Who the Hell takes what they say seriously?
They say whatever makes them seem edgy and politically relevant whille they sell their nonsense.
And why are they not “controlled”.
I agree, I think, no, I give people have the right to kill themselves or sell themselves into slavery, never mind eat crappy food, and I demand that right in return. I just put my beliefs and info out there… you can take it or leave it. At the end of the day, it’s your mind and body, you’re the one who has to haul it around everywhere you go, not me. I don’t claim to know it all and I don’t think the answers are crystal clear for everyone or anyone to see. Some people believe they’re living healthy and the wind up with cancer or dementia, there’s no guarantees, there’s probabilities. Physical and mental health requires a great deal of contemplation, deliberation and reflection, and though we’re all human, no two bodies and minds are entirely alike. As for hedonism, I know, it’s a dilemma, but I find it gets easier and easier. The first step is the hardest, it’s not something that comes overnight, it’s a lifelong struggle. BTW, I’m not a vegetarian, I’ve combined the Paleo-diet with qualitative and quantitative calorie restriction, more or less. Seems to be working for me, for now.
TPTB are creating an environment so that if people simply indulge and act like the type of theoretical rununder is proposing, they are going to kill themselves off.
What is going on is here is a hyper acceleration of evolution.
All of this is a byproduct (or perhaps I just see it as the reverse) of choosing to be aware and look at sources of information other than the ones designed to exploit every fibre of my being. People say, ‘well how do you know your sources aren’t lying to you?’ I can’t emphasize how fucking moronic that is. It’s like drinking industrial oil, and saying to me, “Well how do you know that fruit juice is THAT good for you?” as black oil drips down onto your shirt. It’s so mindfuck stupid you just don’t know where to start.
I don’t think it’s mean to say that. I think it’s mean not to say that, and let you continue drinking oil. Give me one reason why anyone should watch/listen to the mainstream media? I will present a better alternative to what you are looking for - even if you are looking for trash entertainment.
Whatever, man. Don’t you see how that is all contributing to the downfall of the earth? It hurts those around you to act like a fucking glutton. Look back into history. Humans have never been free. There is no cosmic right to just be selfish and not care about anyone else. If you want to, go ahead and do it. See how that works out for you.
It seems like every once and a while TPTB will do a Reddit-ask-me-a-question-style thing—I mean, seemingly or apparently—somewhere and the one common theme I always see is that they give people a choice. They tell the public what they are going to do.
We know what’s up.
I mean I think they engineered it this way, but ultimately we can’t go along like this forever. Something has to give.
If consumption is destroying the Earth, then that still doesn’t give you the right to tell others what they can or cannot do, drink or cannot drink, eat or cannot drink. As soon as you contheorists start telling people they shouldn’t eat McDonald’s, then it is you who have become the true illuminati. Those claiming to oppose and hate the NWO, are in fact, themselves becoming what they hate. Now, please excuse me, as I go and eat some McDonald’s as a symbol of my resistance and rebellion, against the contheorist illuminati seeking control over my diet and drinks!
No. This is a bad argument. I’m not saying I have the right to tell you what to do. I didn’t say that.
I’m saying if you’re the type of person who needs to be told, listen to me over them. I don’t know you, but I like you more than them.
Are you really deciding that you want MacDonalds, or have you been told to eat it by the media? Where do we draw the line?
No, not even then. If you hired the cream of the cognitive scientists and set out to influence children such that they would radically resist eating fast food - and, say demand complicated vegan dishes - and spent billions of dollars jamming images and sounds into their minds to do this, then you are getting to Illuminati or corporate levels of power and positioning. But further you would also need to set society up so that stress and rushing around and not having the time or money to eat well is a given for many and soon most people, then you are also starting to get to that level. Anyone can even scream about what people should do. That does not suddenly give them enormous power and influence.
The latter enforced diet of americans is nicely outlined by a first hand account of how the working poor must eat (one portion of the book)in…
And the author is hardly a conspiracy theorist. She went out and joined the working poor from her better position as a middle class journalist -6 months, more I can’t remember - and she makes it very clear how one’s diet is affected by elite conceptions of what moral capitalism is like.
Only a postmodernist, radically redefining the idea of resistance and rebellion, would imagine that they are fighting the power by eating at McDonald’s and dissing conspiracy theorists.
Note, I don’t go around telling people what they should eat. I think that is rude. But it’s hardly becoming a power player on the world stage. Especially from one adult - my god, in a philosophy forum - to another.
Oh, yes, you would need to design at least some of the food to be addictive. This would also be part of the corporate SHOULD around eating.
Most adults have been trained into what seem like natural tastes.
Well honestly, the last thing I would have ever expected was contheorists like Alex Jones and Gobbo, telling me what I should or should not eat.
What if I happen to like fluoride chlorine enhanced illuminati tap water?! They say it’s killing me? Oh on the contrary, I think it’s doing just the opposite. We should add more chemicals, hormones, and nutrients to society’s tap water, to genetically modify us all and turn everybody into superhumans!
I think the point’s been proved, one man’s slavery is another man’s freedom. The contrarians are the mortal antithesis to the contheorists. These two groups cannot survive each other. You shout conspiracy, I shout complacency?
Erase all the lines?
No, no. Superman no home. I have no money.
There’s a difference between ethics and law, I’m sure Gobbo isn’t trying to make his ethics law, the new world order has and is. There’s a difference between advice, recommendations and suggestions on the one hand, and demands and dictations on the other, It’s not difficult.
Alex Jones is the radical guru, convincing his disciples what to eat, and what not to eat. Gobbo is just following the crowd on this one.
What’s wrong with genetically modified and enhanced public tap drink water? What’s wrong with injecting the public drinking system full of hormones, chemicals, and additives? It kind of sounds like a good idea, to me. What’s wrong with “improvement”?
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Argument by instinct - These are radical changes to our environment and what we consume. Man has evolved to be apprehensive of change.
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Conservative argument - When plain meat, potatoes and vegetables has worked for thousands of years, why fuck up a good thing by introducing all these frakenfoods that may or may not be healthy? Why fix something that’s not broken? We should be careful, cautious and skeptical of new “foods”, we shouldn’t adopt them whole heartedly overnight.
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Evolutionary argument - Our bodies evolved to eat meat, potatoes and vegtables, not modified milk ingredients, coffee, donuts, ice cream and marshmellows. Our cultural evolution and the way we manufacture our food is outpacing our biological evolution at an alarming rate.
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Rational argument - We’re not made out of aspartame, fluoride, modified corn syrup and msg, and although we’re made out of refined sugar, salt and fat, refined foods are pure calories with little in the way of nutrients, so when we begin consuming large quantities of nonfoods, anti-foods and refined foods, and deficient quantities of the nutrients our body requires, it breaks down, it can’t restore and replenish its various cells and functions.
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Scientific argument - Scientists have found a correlation between many modern diseases and a diet high in transfats, refined sugar, salt, and low in fruits, vegtables, whole grains and fish.
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Historical argument - Cancer has increased at an alarming rate along with modernity… so have many other diseases such as heart disease, diabetes and obesity.
7 Empirical argument - I felt like shit when I ate shit, I feel better on the Paleo Diet + Calorie Restriction. Some of my ailments and disease have significantly improved, others have disappeared altogether. We have to watch quantities of food not just qualities, it’s not natural to gorge ourselves everyday, ancient man went through periods of feast and famine, he didn’t have access to all the good and bad foods we have in abundance. We’re programmed to gorge on them as much as we can because of how scare they were in the state of nature, and that’s not healthy, eating 3000 - 4000 calories everyday is not natural and healthy, especially if you’re not doing a ton of excersise to warrant such a high caloric intake.