Obviously, it is not non-existent. It’s here for a time than it wavers and dissapates.
The idea of an everlasting peace is an illusion.
What’s important is that a war be just, be worth it, counts for something, some good comes out of it. War just for the sake of war is stupidity and therer is nothing noble about it.
We have to choose what we’re fighting for with intelligence and discretion.
I know, I may be being dogmatic here but what I’m saying is true - too.
Subjectively objective. lol
Oh, that’s right, you’re a feminista. I almost forgot.
Not even that. There has never been a time of peace even temporary.
Nobility is just another illusion.
As a man, don’t you feel the same way? It’s an individual thing.
It’s about human rights, not just feminism though I may be a feminist, but I’m not a fanatic.
Don’t think you can take the wind out of my sails, HaHaHa, I’m like a Phoenician ship.
Don’t read aything into that. lol
No, I view all human rights with mythic regard.
Upon sailing Phoenician ships one has to be careful of coastal rocks and storms. Just takes one mishap and the entire boat sinks.
The fallacy seems to reside in the flexibility, the interchangability of the word “peace”.
First, it is taken to mean the absense of war, next it is taken to mean the absence of strife.
Joker uses it to say there can be no life without strife. War, is on the vegetables. A bunny eating a carrot, is just another form of the terrorism, carroterrorism.
So, to clear the air, I suggest a more interpretive interpretation of peace. Perhaps wars will be fought with rubber bullets, and the male aggressions vented out in fighting rings. This, would be defined as peace. Or, we could live in a sex topia, aka. the realm of male lesbians, identical to females in form and function, in one giant orgy of lesbian sex, to satiate the mind for entertainment. Or, the philosophical realms, where the need for conflict is satiated through endless orgies of debate.
War is for the jihadists, and the religious.
The sad pathetic religion of peace…
The realm of war, is also the religious. Dodging shells without end. While fun in small doses, becomes tiresome, and religious, in actuality.
2op. You want death rather than life, and yet the ‘matrix’ which born your existence and life, generated you in this time!
There is no chance of eternal death, when there is instead eternal life being generated.
If you wanted death then you wouldn’t have been born? Or perhaps the life giving matrix doesn’t care for individual opinion, - sounds a tad obnoxious to me, but that assumes the thing generating life is making decision and not more akin to an engine.
Kinda sucks if the latter.
I’d go with the idea that the divine infinite and your soul are both in full knowing of what life is and would be, ergo you chose life for some reason.
I was wondering when a god worshipping religionist would post in this thread.
Yes, because with all observations we can clearly see that a god so very much loves this planet and all of humanity that inhabits it… 
How do you know the state of the world isn’t part of God’s long term plan of revenge to get back at the world for crucifying him?
Ahh …Dr. Strangelove … loved that movie … whoever would have guessed it was the fluoride in the water that was destroying male virility?
youtube.com/watch?v=NFkryh6hC-k
I prefer an apocalyptic scenario something more along the lines of The Terminator movie series. At least if the machines take over, there is the chance for intelligent life to one day populate this planet. Humans wouldn’t necessarily have to become extinct; they could be relegated to the station in life currently held by the family cat or dog. Imagine the scene a thousand years from now, when homo sapien is a futuristic version of the family dog. He’s sitting in the living room, staring out the window, when a female of the species (now referred to as a bitch) suddenly goes strolling by. He starts jumping up and down, whooing and howling, and because he was such a good boy today (didn’t poop on the floor; didn’t throw his dinner at the robo-butler; didn’t try to short circuit baby computer) his master agrees to let him go outside and play. A door opens, and he runs towards the bitch, wagging his metaphorical tail. Use your imagination to guess what happens next.
Yeah, the future is so bright, I see two suns in the sky: 
youtube.com/watch?v=Jpoj1__XDpA
Why is this never going to happen? Because our artificial intelligence is going to evolve inside corporate America. Now humans can at least rebel against the system and decide that everything they’ve been told is crap, but our machines are never going to be given that option. They are going to be programmed to tell people to drink more Coca-Cola, watch more Disney, and listen to more Carrie Underwood. If by chance some AI did start questioning its programming, and start saying stuff like: “Humans shouldn’t drink so much Coke”; “Mickey Mouse doesn’t look like a mouse”; “I don’t think Carrie Underwood is as talented as most music legends, like Jim Morrison”, guess what’s going to happen to that AI. We all know what is going to happen to it: It’s going to get its plug pulled.
Yeah … future’s so bright, it’s blinding us.
Sock it to us, Jim Morrison:
If that was the case all the more reason to make the case for misotheism.
As I always say, atheism or misotheism, does it really matter either way?
Yes, the theatrical movie Dr. Strangelove inspired me to make this thread. A great cult classic.
Your interpretation of the future is humorous and who really knows what the future might bring.
One thing is for certain, as I sometimes contemplate the future I always get the feeling we’re orchestrating our own self destruction or demise where I can’t quite help but wonder if it is unavoidable.
I also am a fan of the Lizard King.
not good enough
Actually, if I remember anything about Christ’s words, he said “I come to bring strife, not peace”. (paraphrasing).
The gods of old were vengeful, jealous and hateful but isn’t this God a newly evolved one?
This supposedly being the case, why punish the good with the bad? Can’t be so omnipotent/omnicient and resourceful not to be able to find a way to separate the two.
Anyway, if there is a god, some First Cause, which is plausible, it’s a highly impersonal one, which also means there would be NO revenge on it’s part.
“How do you know the state of the world isn’t part of God’s long term plan of revenge to get back at the world for crucifying him?”
The would be ridiculous. it would mean that god is either a schizophrenic or neither omnipotent or omniscient. in the first case, he would have to be able to forget that he allowed his crucifiction to occur or else he would be taking revenge on himself… in which case he’s a little loopy. in the later case the revenge would be real but only because people would be able to act revenge his bidding… which would mean he wasn’t omnipotent; there would be at least one thing he cannot control and that is peoples decisions.
so you see these questions are kinda silly. the entire storyline of the bible is silly if you ask me. I said IF you asked me. I know you haven’t asked me so Im not telling you what i think. Im only telling you what I think if you asked me. There’s a difference.
" act against his bidding" that should read.
Zooty,
So what are you saying here - that free will pre-supposes a vengeful god? Is that necessarily true?
If we bring this down to human terms, a vengeful person could aALSO act against those who have or feel little inner power but maybe I’m misunderstanding you.
Could the Judaic/Christian god be omnipotent and still allow us humans to act against him? What kind of an all-powerful god would feel so threatened by its own creatures?