# The Harmonic Triads

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**Created:** [February 2, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/the-harmonic-triads/48486 "2022-02-02T22:13:05Z")
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The irony of the story of the triad, then, is the following: from the work of neo-Kantians like Cousin, we now have a sense of the True, the Good, and the Beautiful being different dimensions, indicating inherent incommensurable directions for the pursuit of value. We often also believe these three to be mutually exclusive and exhaustive of value in itself. Yet we have seen that the triad could only stabilize wibble wibble wibble…

Verbal masturbation of the highest order. People in universities actually get paid money to talk this bullshit.

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lol did you say wibble wibble wibble? lol!

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> [@Sculptor](#):
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> > [@Ichthus77](#):
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> > Something I’m playing with to organize some dialectics that make three-part syntheses.
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> > The attached Venn diagram is just a sample/key to start.
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> > See this Google Sheet for many more triads.  
> > [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wxtknEW5QLl8etwcmtjFOwUEQNbqGwsKpNeaQmPiY3M/edit?fbclid=IwAR3v5nqXBU4fabaJ4h\_GvNpnyI0RcqExhSObc-DIoUlOCWhMIg9ezBMnTmA#gid=0](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wxtknEW5QLl8etwcmtjFOwUEQNbqGwsKpNeaQmPiY3M/edit?fbclid=IwAR3v5nqXBU4fabaJ4h_GvNpnyI0RcqExhSObc-DIoUlOCWhMIg9ezBMnTmA#gid=0)
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> > [attachment=0]Harmonic Triads Venn Sample.jpeg[/attachment]
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> Why would you equate “true” with BE and not DO?
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> And why beautiful with END?

It merges Kant & Hegel & what they drew from. This would take a long explanation. Started when I was studying Kant because I was taking philosophy of art. This is the way I work to understand things.

conduct. DO is deontology/praxis … ethics / practical reason

consequences. END is teleology/art … I think poesis. … aesthetics… judgment

I am sorry I can’t do better right now.

oh true/be … character. it’s ontology… being … virtue … understanding

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See the question mark? I wrote that on my philosophy of art prof’s chalkboard after class… trying to figure out where Kant was going.

Best I can do. Sorry.

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I guess you could say “true” is perfect being, or — in our case — just the ground we’re used to.

Each circle has different levels, too. Like…we are made in the image of God, but we can mess with it by conditioning vice or virtue (that’s just one circle)

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This says stuff about phusis, nomos, logos which suggests yellow, blue, red  
[iep.utm.edu/sophists/](https://iep.utm.edu/sophists/)

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shema riff

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Dr. Snyder is leading me to believe imagination/meaning goes in the middle. Thinking about it. Letting only body/feeling be at the top would mesh with Dr. Carter. But. The artisan is creative. So I’m thinking on it.

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All are creative in their own way. Even the sustainers 😉

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Rough. Could scrap.  
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I feel so validated & unoriginal at the same time. Except maybe I do put a twist on it. Anywhays. From Brentano’s “Psychology from an empirical standpoint”.

Second Venn is Descartes. Third is Brentano.  
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Beginning at attempt to outline the three levels within each sphere. Only one spider being tossed around a triadic mind.

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The Golden Synthesis:  
[ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=197946](https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=197946)

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.  
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functional derivative between heidegger and adorno.

[academia.edu/resource/work/48316431](https://www.academia.edu/resource/work/48316431)

As linking the dialectic from ‘analogue through digital’ process.

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[onezero.medium.com/from-analog- … b359350b68](https://onezero.medium.com/from-analog-to-digital-and-back-10b359350b68)

[link.springer.com/chapter/10.10 … 7-2604-7\_5](https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-94-017-2604-7_5)

[link.springer.com/article/10.10 … 20-09694-y](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11097-020-09694-y)

[plato.stanford.edu/entries/functionalism/](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/functionalism/)

[iep.utm.edu/panpsych/](https://iep.utm.edu/panpsych/)

[academia.edu/resource/work/8566915](https://www.academia.edu/resource/work/8566915)

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Dussel ain’t no dummy. But the person who puts faith in a button, and the finger that pushes it, and the brain/mind behind the decision moving the finger… without faith in the hands holding the whole thing together… I mean. _sigh_ I’m tired. But I’d stay up for that movie.

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I see the point. The triad, ontologically dialectically derived, has changed the cut off parts, of what has appeared to be an analytical problem; and it became understood as analogical, but not before, it was turned into a harmonic triad. The harmony does have a calculated-mathematical basis, and it presents an elemental self description of an identifiable synthetic pre-ontological negative trace to the Greek sourced formally described dialectical anagram? I don’t know even if I can use that word, but it jumps out at me.

As functional analysis is later a more descriptive way to represent dialectical synthesis, the triads and the gaps between it’s trig. features approach a return to an analogous state, as if, informing it’s ‘prior’ state of it’s change .

Feels much like a conscious state’s efforts to recreate an ‘unconscious’ simulation in retrospect, as if in line with the produced construction of certain refined structural phenomena, out of the basic uncertainty below.  
So there is no real contradiction to what You are implying, in terms of this process because it appears as one shadows the other.

Just musing but it’s late…and not to bore You.

The dialectic between material and spirit, is developing less contrasting features with which to be able to perceive the start contrast between foreground and background, with the object changing relative meaning , between a transcending Vanishing or an enhancing signifier.

That this calculus of sense-sensation begets the notion that the epiphenominal perception of a political dialectic caused, a vacuum of significance, indicates the shadow world, with which the spiritual, cross, of the former grounded dialectic is similarly in relationship with.

This is why, I feel Your comment not grounded sufficiently, and offers merely an anti-thethic commentary to the underlying harmonic calculus.

All the quoted sources indicate mere searches to some material supporting the issue.(s)

Just in case. Searching for the safety is easier said then done.

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I know it intuitively. It is how I think. I can’t remember when I was first exposed to dialectic, but I came up with a bunch around 2009 when writing Ethics paper. Be/Do/End sprang from noticing patterns in my secular Ethics text.

I love patterns. You imply it’s because they feel safe. These patterns lead you into the fires others run away from. Try again.

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I never discounted this propensity, as both, derived and transcended goals are equally resourceful

That is what is really compelling about Kierkegaard’s conception. I will try to try again, God willing.

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> [@Meno\_](#):
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> I never discounted this propensity, as both, derived and transcended goals are equally resourceful
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> That is what is really compelling about Kierkegaard’s conception. I will try to try again, God willing.

But actually that effort will never get rid of a very profound role of instigation, so any effort to a pseudo authentic role, will be particularly oriented toward questions of identity, just skimmed briefly from the same above list of references

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