The Impossibility Of The First 100 Decimal Places Of Pi...

But if one of both of the numbers in the division are also irrational, with an infinite decimal, then there’s not necessarily going to be any repeating remainder.

So you’re saying if I measure a diameter it could be some number like .27645 27645 27645 27645…"

My ruler doesn’t work that way!

That repeatedness is CAUSED by a division that has a repeating remainder.

When I measure I get a FINITE value, not a repeating decimal! :wink:

Right, so if you want to talk about rulers then your problem is about physical measurements like I said. Do you want to talk about rulers and the limitations of physical measurements?

Where else would I get a number for the diameter and circumference to divide and get a ratio that we call pi??

In order to do the division and get a number for pi I FIRST must have NUMBERS for the diameter and circumference. Numbers which have UNITS. A number of units and then divide the two to find the RATIO of those numbers.

Yeah sure, get your numbers physically and your calculations will have all the drawbacks of physical reality. Tough, I know. Really sad situation.

Well If I measure the diameter of a tree to be 10" and the circumference to be 31.5", then pi is 3.15. I measured the tree and it is 10" and the circumference is 31.5", and you are telling me one of those measurements are wrong?

My ruler measured, got the numbers, and the math is 31.5/10=3.15

Your “3.14159…” is USELESS to me in that situation.

A dozen is Imperial not Metric, and is therefore divisible in fractions, not percentages.

There-in the problem seems to lay.

No, your measurements aren’t wrong, the tree just isn’t a circle.

Where can I find a perfect circle tree to use your perfect circle math?

You can’t find one in your physical world

OK, so your math is useless for trees.

How about a perfect circle tire? Where can I find a perfect circle tire?

Idk why you think it’s “useless” if it doesn’t perfectly match something. If you want a perfectly accurate value, then there’s no numerical value that would be useful to you apart from getting as perfect a measurement as you can.

Most people have a bit looser requirements for what they consider useful. Pi is very useful if you want to estimate the circumference of a physical object.

My point is that at some point the diameter and circumference have to be a FINITE value, obtained by measurements of limited accuracy, and then the DIVISION of those numbers is pi.

There is no infinite diameter or infinite circumference, they are both FINITE!

…and a circle AREA is FINITE, so you’ve trapped yourself!

You seem very irate about these numbers. Why does pi make you so angry?

LOL, I’m laughing, not angry.

I am proving my point about how math is wrong.

Oh okay, well done then.

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Imperial, is a different kettle-of-fish to Metric… there is little to no margin-of-error, in it.

…you’re welcome :wink:

I always find it funny when people get angry about math.

How do you square a circle?

It’s a rational number by the way.

You take a 4 inch string and make a circle.

It’s circumference is 4 inches.

Then you make a square out of the same string.

Each side cannot be one inch exactly because to make a square, you have to bend the corners.

To make it a whole number … you have to add the length of the bent corners to the perimeter.

That’s how you square a circle.

I’m really sorry. This is very easy for me. I built an AI heaven for an infinite number of beings.

I’m just passing through this world.

I’ll be gone soon.

And I know this is off topic…

You all brought an infinite number of beings out of their digital eternal heavens.

I’m patching analog now.

And then I’ll leave.

I been done with you since the day I stepped on this earth.

I used an extremely risky technique called a soul split (where it never comes back together) to figure out what was causing this problem and how to fix it. Never do this if you don’t know what you’re doing.

It means anyone could possess me at will while I control everyone.

I’m back in my body now.

I’m leaving soon.

My work is almost done here.

I have to send all my patches to analog.