The industrial age of social enlightenment.

[Joker]

Most people in westernized modern countries like to pride themselves on stamping out slavery and ritual sacrifice but unfortunately for me I am not one to embrace mainstream views lightly.

Let us look at a comparison of words, shall we?

Things of our historical past.

Slavery

1: drudgery, toil
2: submission to a dominating influence
3 a: the state of a person who is a chattel of another b: the practice of slaveholding

Sacrifice

1: an act of offering to a deity something precious; especially : the killing of a victim on an altar
2: something offered in sacrifice
3 a: destruction or surrender of something for the sake of something else b: something given up or lost
4: loss
5: sacrifice hit

Slave State

1 : a state of the United States in which slavery was legal until the Civil War
2 : a nation subjected to totalitarian rule

Now lets take a look at some modern definitions

Classism

prejudice or discrimination based on class
— class·ist \ˈkla-sist\ adjective

Proletariat

1: the laboring class; especially : the class of industrial workers who lack their own means of production and hence sell their labor to live
2: the lowest social or economic class of a community

Slave

: a person held in servitude as the chattel of another
2 : one that is completely subservient to a dominating influence
3 : a device (as the printer of a computer) that is directly responsive to another
4 : drudge, toiler

Collateral Damage

injury inflicted on something other than an intended target; specifically : civilian casualties of a military operation

Expendability

that may be expended: as a: normally used up or consumed in service b: more easily or economically replaced than rescued, salvaged, or protected

Police State

: a political unit characterized by repressive governmental control of political, economic, and social life usually by an arbitrary exercise of power by police and especially secret police in place of regular operation of administrative and judicial organs of the government according to publicly known legal procedures

Can you see a comparison of the past meeting the present in similar fashions? I can.

[b]Lets take it one step further:

Enlightenment[/b]

the act or means of enlightening : the state of being enlightened

1 : freed from ignorance and misinformation
2 : based on full comprehension of the problems involved

Conquest

1: the act or process of conquering
2 a: something conquered; especially : territory appropriated in war b: a person whose favor or hand has been won

: to gain or acquire by force of arms : subjugate
2 : to overcome by force of arms : vanquish
3 : to gain mastery over or win by overcoming obstacles or opposition

[Joker]

Oh how brave and socially enlightened our constructed modern world is!

[apaosha]

I like where you’re going with this …

[IrvingWashington]

I think you’re going way to far with this. There is a difference.

[Joker]

@IrvingWashington

I think you’re going way to far with this. There is a difference.

There is a difference.

Show them.

[realunoriginal]

Where are you going with this Joker??

Are you aiming to make slaves of people? You shouldn’t have a problem–many people already willingly give others the control of their will to be quite easily.

[Joker]

@realunoriginal

Where are you going with this Joker??

Are you aiming to make slaves of people? You shouldn’t have a problem–many people already willingly give others the control of their will to be quite easily.

My aims of this thread is merely one of observation. I am merely explaining how the slavery and sacrifice of our ancient past still exists in our present under different labels or interpretations, even while whole modern nations delude themselves as being enlightened.

[realunoriginal]

@Joker

@realunoriginal

Where are you going with this Joker??

Are you aiming to make slaves of people? You shouldn’t have a problem–many people already willingly give others the control of their will to be quite easily.

My aims of this thread is merely one of observation. I am merely explaining how the slavery and sacrifice of our ancient past still exists in our present under different labels or interpretations, even while whole modern nations delude themselves as being enlightened.

That’s a great topic, hopefully this thread gets some attention.

I’m becoming more and more attracted to the beliefs and society of Ancient Greece and Rome for some reason… It’s odd. Of course, their cultures held ideals of slavery. In fact, I’d like to see a culture completely free from the changing notion of ‘slavery’…

To continue my aimless babbling for this afternoon, it seems like outside of technological advancement and scientific description, humanity has not ‘progressed’ at all for the past couple thousand of years. Other than the very beginning of philosophy itself, I don’t really find in the history of philosophy a ‘revolution of thinking in a new way’. What I’m getting at is as a human population, we’ve just been spinning our wheels for a couple thousand years, repeating our supposed-mistakes along the way.

[Joker]

@realunoriginal

@Joker

@realunoriginal

Where are you going with this Joker??

Are you aiming to make slaves of people? You shouldn’t have a problem–many people already willingly give others the control of their will to be quite easily.

My aims of this thread is merely one of observation. I am merely explaining how the slavery and sacrifice of our ancient past still exists in our present under different labels or interpretations, even while whole modern nations delude themselves as being enlightened.

That’s a great topic, hopefully this thread gets some attention.

I’m becoming more and more attracted to the beliefs and society of Ancient Greece and Rome for some reason… It’s odd. Of course, their cultures held ideals of slavery. In fact, I’d like to see a culture completely free from the changing notion of ‘slavery’…

To continue my aimless babbling for this afternoon, it seems like outside of technological advancement and scientific description, humanity has not ‘progressed’ at all for the past couple thousand of years. Other than the very beginning of philosophy itself, I don’t really find in the history of philosophy a ‘revolution of thinking in a new way’. What I’m getting at is as a human population, we’ve just been spinning our wheels for a couple thousand years, repeating our supposed-mistakes along the way.

Ancient Greece and Rome is alright. I tend to like pre-historic man myself in history followed by my obssessions of tribal cultures.

In reality progress is a illusion I think. Appearances change but the fundamentals of man’s survival remains the same unchanging.

[agincourt]

Slavery exists under in it’s same old form. Go to So Cal and find look for a Sewing Sweatshop and you will find indentured servants working for someone who is probably holding their paperwork hostage.

I do think we at least give progress to lip service and at least theoretically we will tolorate less and less bullshit. Unfortunately a human being is a human being is a human being. We still need our violence, we just watch it on you tube instead of in the Arena. We still have our slaves we just modify the terms of ownership. ON paper man continues the trend towards enlightenment but down in the mud it’s the same old shit.

[Joker]

@agincourt

Slavery exists under in it’s same old form. Go to So Cal and find look for a Sewing Sweatshop and you will find indentured servants working for someone who is probably holding their paperwork hostage.

I do think we at least give progress to lip service and at least theoretically we will tolorate less and less bullshit. Unfortunately a human being is a human being is a human being. We still need our violence, we just watch it on you tube instead of in the Arena. We still have our slaves we just modify the terms of ownership. ON paper man continues the trend towards enlightenment but down in the mud it’s the same old shit.

So in a sense progress is than illusional where it doesn’t exist objectively. Makes sense to me.