Well, passion thinks it does because he/she thinks “Mammon” is some kind of heathen idol, and that would relate to jealousy.
– kingdaddy
You’re asking for anecdotal evidence? Otherwise – read the original post… for starters.
I’ve copy/pasted the rest of the replies for off-line reading…
Have a good Thanksgiving.
The reason why God is jealous of humanity is because God cannot revolt or destroy anything…he has total power and therefore cannot become better than himself. The Will in the quanta is both an entropy and an equilibrium; from one perspective it is advantageous, from another perspective it is not. I am speaking in terms of pure power and not the decision of success or satisfaction. Therefore each perspective is both a struggle and an ease for the Will in general, which we are all a part of, since none of us truely are subjects but deeds. God is the subject before the deed and can have no part of it.
God cannot change, cannot suffer, and cannot be successful.
Furthermore, God cannot toy with the devil because he is more powerful than the devil. Humans, on the other hand, can out-smart the devil in honesty, something God would have to lie about since the devil was no challenge.
Ah, its good to be mortal my friends.
Please, De’trop… go read the determinism/free will thread I posted. God is active in the now.
Please follow my thinking to the end. Do not take one piece of it and think it represents the whole.
I would appreciate your input, if any, in that thread.
Take care…
Nice defacing… (avatar).
Don’t you dare equate the greatness of a man such as Descartes with the obnoxious and immature antics of a pseudo-philosopher like myself.
What an insult. I’m not even worth Descartes’ mistakes, my good man. This is clearly a case of swine before pearls.
Please offer an apology to Frenchy #1. (Sartre is Frenchy #2, btw…they kinda go together in a cool sorta phenomenological way.)
Sartre once declared in a confident, pomp sort of ultra-intellectualist elite way “every French boy knows his Descartes…” refering to himself and his students at the university.
I’m confused.
Perhaps you are waiting for me to show what the determinism thread implies about the materialism issue? Or perhaps I’ve read too far into your words… which appear to be the result of your reading too far into mine?
– Nav
– Nav
– Nav
God is jealous if and when we do or believe anything outside His will… whether or not the beliefs we act upon are based upon the real or imagined. This will not change – regardless what we believe. He created us to live well under certain conditions. If we break from those conditions, we won’t live well. One of those conditions is a loving relationship with Him, rather than with (what we may not know is) a figment of our imagination (false gods).
That He speaks to us with different vocabulary as history progresses just reflects a God who considers the ears of His listeners.
Kriswest – Hell is separation from God. It is not something He wants for us or a consequence He chooses out of unjust anger. We choose it when we reject Him.
No, not jealous. Actually, it’s not possible to do anything outside God’s will. But setting that aside, “jealousy” is a very specific emotion. When my daughters were children, and they misbehaved, that would sometimes annoy me, or I would disapprove, but I was certainly not jealous. And in the context of the few Biblical passages referring to divine jealousy, it’s quite clear that what is being referred to as provoking that jealousy is running around with other deities, just as one’s spouse might well feel jealous if one were to fool around with other sex partners.
Well, it certainly does reflect the changing consciousness of the worshipers. On that we’re agreed. But all deities are creations of the human mind, keyed in to a Reality that’s far beyond human understanding. None of them are literally real and true, from the crudest and most barbaric to the most sophisticated and philosophically deep. So it’s quite realistic to speak of the JHVH of the pre-Captivity Hebrews as a different god from the God of modern Jews, even though there is a Unity underlying both of them.
– Nav
As long as you do not see this reality as suggesting people go muck up their lives (which would be against His will in a different respect than you are using the word “will”)… I can’t say I disagree with you. It reflects both God’s sovereignty and His grace. But, there are consequences for those who choose them. I comment briefly on hell in a reply I just posted in my determinism/free will thread – if Kriswest is reading this.
– Nav
Say your daughters become temple prostitutes and sacrifice their first born to the gods? Would you be “annoyed”? Hopefully you would be what the word “jealous” means when it is used of God. Please see my thread against gods, goddesses and syncretism.
Take care.