The Legalization of Drugs

[FtheNaysayers]

@thirst4metal

BS! This doesn’t mean anything. People tend to focus on the softer side of drugs (marijuana, alcohol, nicotine) and forget to focus on the stimulants, hallucinogens, and the narcotics. Heroin, angel dust, cocaine, acid… these drugs have a much more potent effect on human behavior than marijuana and alcohol.

The softer side of drugs? Do you know that nicotine is one of the most physically addictive drugs. Many of the “hard” drugs you describe aren’t even physically addicitve. This may come as a surprise but cocaine is NOT physically addicitive. Now, having said that cocaine is very psychologically addictive, but it’s effects are far less powerful than alcohol.

Furthermore, just because a drug alters your perception doesn’t mean that you can’t use it responsibly. There is no excuse to be irresponsible with a drug. Just like it is against the law to be irresponsible with alcohol, it should be this way with drugs. The drug does not need to be illegal for society to restrict the ABUSE of drugs.

A lot of my friends WERE drug addicts… treatment does not have the high rate of success we would need in society.

It does when it is done right.

Especially all of the multiple offenders, how many times do they get a free pass?

Our current justice system does not, I repeat does not, focus on the rehabilitation of drug abusers. It focuses on the punishment and incarceration of these individuals.

Let me tell you that in the ghetto you can see the failure of rehabilitation a lot better than in the better neighborhoods…

Exactly my point. We need to put more money into the rehabilitation of drug abusers. One of the reasons why rehab doesn’t work as good in the ghettos is because it is not used properly. It works better in “better” neighborhoods because rehab is more focused on and given better funding.

This is where your argument fails… when you have lived your entire youth in these neighborhoods it is a MUCH more different story.

So my arugment fails because I wasn’t in the thick of things? Well that is a fallicious argument if I’ve ever heard one. I’ve researched this topic, I’ve experienced drug use, drug abuse, and drug trafficing. I think I know what I’m talking about.

:roll: So, having lived in the neighborhoods my WHOLE life until recently somehow you are better qualified to tell me (and others) that you KNOW that it is not drugs? Are you serious?

I’m dead serious. Just because you live in that environment all your life, it doesn’t make you the authority on the matter. I’ve done research, looked at statistics, and have used past history to come to my conclusion. All you have is your experience.

Let me tell you that drugs are a significant part of the violence and crime in these neighborhoods.

No the drug is not the problem. It is the people. Don’t blame the drugs for the faults of society/people. This is a common line of reasoning used by pro-illegalization people. You attribute irresponsible drug use to the drug, not the person. The blame lies with the person. I have abused drugs and I am the one to blame. I have never stole, assaulted, or killed anyone for drug money. Even when I was broke and WANTED the drug, I still did not commit any crime. If someone was to commit a crime, then THEY are the one to blame, not the drug itself.

First: you underestimate the crime caused by drug addicts–theft, robbery, assault, home invasion: I PERSONALLY experienced and was victimized by each of these at the hands of crackheads and junkies.

I think you overstimate the crime caused by drug addicts. Did you ask the robber what he was stealing for? You seem to attribute ALL crime in the ghetto due to drugs. You do realize that is a silly assumption. Drugs aren’t the only reason people rob and assault people. Hell, it isn’t even the main reason.

Yes, the greater percentage of crimes are done by gang-members… does that excuse the drug addict?

I never said it excuses the drug addict but a drug addict killing or robbing someone happens much less than a gang member doing it. And what is the reason gang members go this? BECAUSE OF THE BLACK MARKET CREATED BY DRUGS BEING ILLEGAL. Look at alcohol prohibition. Once alcohol was illegal crime skyrocketed, especially violent crime. Making drugs illegal is not the solution.

Remember that eventually a crackhead’s needs will outweigh his means and crime WILL occur.

Which is exactly why he needs to recieve treatment before that happens. Putting him in jail for drug abuse isn’t going to help him. He will be back on the street doing the same thing in no time.

You forget that the crackheads will exhaust their means… that is when the crime will happen. If they can’t find half-a-dollar to get their fix they will kill for it. That is a fact and I’ve seen it. It is in the behavioral change of these types of addicts that makes the difference about legalizing drugs

I’ve notice something here. Throughout your entire post you aren’t arguing that drugs, themselves, are a problem. You are arguing that people being addicted to drugs is a problem. Well, guess what I agree.

However, making drugs illegal isn’t going to stop addiction. As someone once said to me:

“If we make drugs legal, will certain people not be able to control their habits and fall into addiction?–Yes. Does that already occur?–Yes.”

Look guys, drug prohibition has only recently come about. It has only been around for 150 years or so. Tell me, what happened to society before drugs were made illegal? Were people all messed up on drugs, and we didn’t function as a society?–No. Society existed just fine, and that is exactly what would happen if drugs were to be made legal.

[Russiantank]

I agree! I feel offended anyways that someone is telling me what to put into my body! Once the christian right wing loses its grip on America, if it ever does, I think people will start to see things more clearly. Im not saying I atribute the illegalization of drugs to only the christians, but they retard our reasoning ability in general.

[Dr.Satanical]

This may come as a surprise but cocaine is NOT physically addicitive.

It would indeed

By the way, crack is nothing more than freebase cocain. If cocain isn’t addictive, neither is crack.
Is that really your position?

[TheVance]

Marijuana should atleast be legalized. There is less death compared to alcohal. People die of alcohal poisoning all the time. I don’t even think it’s possible to overdose on marijuana… You would have to smoke like 15 pounds in 15 minutes… which is practically impossible.

As for harder drugs… I cannot speak on first hand experience however, I do not think all people know and/or understand limitations. But it’s survival of the fittest I suppose.

[FtheNaysayers]

@Dr.Satanical

It would indeed

By the way, crack is nothing more than freebase cocain. If cocain isn’t addictive, neither is crack.
Is that really your position?

I never said it wasn’t addictive. I said that it is not physically addictive, but it is very psychologically addictive.

From erowid.org:

Addiction Potential

One of the most problematic aspects of cocaine is its addictive qualities. While cocaine is not believed to be physically addicting, it is, without a doubt, psychologically addicting. Those who use cocaine heavily or regularly frequently encounter great difficulty ceasing use.

Many people find themselves drawn to overusing both crack and powder cocaine. Initial tolerance develops rapidly, especially with heavy use, though tolerance appears to level off relatively quickly (users do not generally require more and more material over time, once they have reached heavy use).

And I don’t know about you but I sure as hell trust erowid.org over any government website.

[Phaedrus]

It matters not one whit whether it’s addictive or not. To me the real issue is whether it’s the Governments business or not. After all, caffeine has been demonstrated to be more addictive than heroine- should we ban it, too?

The issue of “harms” is a red herring, IMOHO. The Government simply shouldn’t be in the business of dictating morality and public health, in my estimation.

[thirst4metal]

Hello Russiantank,

@Russiantank

I agree! I feel offended anyways that someone is telling me what to put into my body! Once the christian right wing loses its grip on America, if it ever does, I think people will start to see things more clearly. Im not saying I atribute the illegalization of drugs to only the christians, but they retard our reasoning ability in general.

I am not christian and am against the legalization of drugs that can violently alter one’s behavior… similar to crack-cocaine.

I’m not to closeminded… a good argument with facts may convince me. I think that I would be more liberal with drugs like marijuana et al, than drugs that have much stronger effects.

If only most pot smokers weren’t somewhat losers…

[Russiantank]

I was not trying to offend christians in general. But you must admit that the crazy fundamentalist christians that have a high seat of power in America are pretty unreasonable. My argument for drugs would have to be that alcohal is probably the most detrimental mind altering drug. I think it would be safe to say that alcohal is the best drug at causing aggressive behavior. And aggressive behavior durring anebriation is the only possible argument I can imagine against drugs. The idea that drugs can ruin the capacity of a society to function is absurd to me. Not that they cant, im sure they can. But being lazy also has that capacity. Should we illegilize being lazy? If someone wants to ruin their own lives, I dont see why they shouldnt be allowed to. Its when they start ruining other lives that society should be concerned. And like I said, alcohal I think is the drug most potent at causing harm to others under anebriation. And alcohal DOES cause problems in the US, but we manage dont we? That would be my argument. Also that legalization and taxation of drugs I presume would be a huge boost to the economy, and also that legalization of drugs would prety much eliminate the crime caused by the illegal distribution of drugs. Theres no chance of getting mugged by a drug dealer when the drug dealer is your local pharmacist.

EDIT: Never say never, thats what I always say, so I guess I cant say there NO chance of getting mugged by your local pharmacist, but that would be really strange…

[thirst4metal]

Hello Naysayer,

@FtheNaysayers

The softer side of drugs? Do you know that nicotine is one of the most physically addictive drugs. Many of the “hard” drugs you describe aren’t even physically addicitve. This may come as a surprise but cocaine is NOT physically addicitive. Now, having said that cocaine is very psychologically addictive, but it’s effects are far less powerful than alcohol.

I have never seen, and have never heard, of a nicotine addict killing when in need of a fix. The difference is in how the drugs alters human behavior. And let me tell you, if it were illegal, I doubt that many nicotine addicts would kill for it either.

@FtheNaysayers

Furthermore, just because a drug alters your perception doesn’t mean that you can’t use it responsibly. There is no excuse to be irresponsible with a drug. Just like it is against the law to be irresponsible with alcohol, it should be this way with drugs. The drug does not need to be illegal for society to restrict the ABUSE of drugs.

I doubt that many can resist some of these highly addictive drugs that can make you rob your own brother, mother, father, etc. The opportunity for danger is higher… most of society can drink responsibly but can most do crack responsibly?

@thirst4metal

Let me tell you that in the ghetto you can see the failure of rehabilitation a lot better than in the better neighborhoods

@FtheNaysayers

Exactly my point.

I failed to make this clear: the reason that rehab failure is more visible in the ghetto is because the percentage of drug addicts is higher whereas in the rich neighborhoods the percentage is low. The failure rate, I believe is not vastly different (you just don’t notice because the junkies aren’t as visible).

@FtheNaysayers

We need to put more money into the rehabilitation of drug abusers. One of the reasons why rehab doesn’t work as good in the ghettos is because it is not used properly. It works better in “better” neighborhoods because rehab is more focused on and given better funding.

The ghetto has access to the same rehab centers that others do… I would rather say that the temptation is greater in the ghetto and more readily accessible. Think about that… ready access means ready failure. Shoudl we add this additional temptation?

@FtheNaysayers

So my arugment fails because I wasn’t in the thick of things? Well that is a fallicious argument if I’ve ever heard one. I’ve researched this topic, I’ve experienced drug use, drug abuse, and drug trafficing. I think I know what I’m talking about.

You cannot argue the effects of war on French soil if you have lived in the U.S. all your life… those that lived through the war have a much better perspective than your outsider statistics.

@FtheNaysayers

Just because you live in that environment all your life, it doesn’t make you the authority on the matter.

Granted… you have a good point.

@FtheNaysayers

I’ve done research, looked at statistics, and have used past history to come to my conclusion. All you have is your experience.

This is the fallacious assumption… how do you know I haven’t done my research and have concluded differently?

Please provide your research and statistics that helped you come to your conclusion.

@FtheNaysayers

No the drug is not the problem. It is the people.

Granted… you have a very good point here. However, since the drugs I am discussing violently modify the behavior of the people should they be given access? Simply, the drugs will likely harm NOT just the person but others as well.

@FtheNaysayers

Don’t blame the drugs for the faults of society/people.

The problem is in the contribution that these drugs have vs. the contribution that nicotine and alcohol have… Will crack allow the users to remain relatively stable? Many alcoholics and nicotine-ics can maintain a job… could Cracky MgGee do the same?

@FtheNaysayers

This is a common line of reasoning used by pro-illegalization people. You attribute irresponsible drug use to the drug, not the person. The blame lies with the person. I have abused drugs and I am the one to blame. I have never stole, assaulted, or killed anyone for drug money. Even when I was broke and WANTED the drug, I still did not commit any crime. If someone was to commit a crime, then THEY are the one to blame, not the drug itself.

Okay… good point. I guess society will have to pay for the cost of your treatment when you are broke and want to get help. And if you lapse? Again the same, and again, and again. One day, you will not be admitted for treatment (because how many times can you abuse treatment?) and you will rob someone for a fix. I’m curious which drugs you abused?

@FtheNaysayers

You seem to attribute ALL crime in the ghetto due to drugs.

I’ve seen the effects of drugs enough time to see a junkie rushing to steal a box of tools to get his fix. I do not think most crime is associated with drugs but a significant (as in meaningful) percentage is the cause.

@FtheNaysayers

IAnd what is the reason gang members go this? BECAUSE OF THE BLACK MARKET CREATED BY DRUGS BEING ILLEGAL.

You see… here is why LIVING in the ghetto would help you. I have met at least 1500 gang members (I spent nearly my whole youth and early adult life in the ghetto) which by far the larger percentage buy drugs for use and not for profit. The average gang member will kill based on territory, or disrespect, or theft, or drugs, (there are various reasons). The point is that these gang members would exist outside of drugs… many gangmembers exist so as to have strength in numbers. Oh, and most gangmembers are hardly connected or organized unlike the gangsters of old.

@FtheNaysayers

Look guys, drug prohibition has only recently come about. It has only been around for 150 years or so. Tell me, what happened to society before drugs were made illegal?

Different, more powerful, drugs are around today. I argue against drugs that change a family man enough to rob his own wife.

[thirst4metal]

Hi Russiantank,

@Russiantank

I was not trying to offend christians in general. But you must admit that the crazy fundamentalist christians that have a high seat of power in America are pretty unreasonable.

I take no offense… but I’ve met many Christian fundamentalists that are reasonable. Moreover, what makes you call them crazy?

@Russiantank

My argument for drugs would have to be that alcohal is probably the most detrimental mind altering drug. I think it would be safe to say that alcohal is the best drug at causing aggressive behavior.

You have clearly never been around junkies.

@Russiantank

The idea that drugs can ruin the capacity of a society to function is absurd to me.

It’s not that they could ruin society its that they would make it a little worse… which WHY should we do that?

@Russiantank

If someone wants to ruin their own lives, I dont see why they shouldnt be allowed to. Its when they start ruining other lives that society should be concerned. And like I said, alcohal I think is the drug most potent at causing harm to others under anebriation. And alcohal DOES cause problems in the US, but we manage dont we?

Yes, we manage, but how well? Do you think a victim of alcohol feels like we are managing? Even so, WHY should we add to this? If people are doing so poorly with alcohol why should we add other, more potent drugs to the mix?

I think there are many, very good, reasons to keep drugs illegal.

[thirst4metal]

Hello Phaedrus.

@Phaedrus

It matters not one whit whether it’s addictive or not. To me the real issue is whether it’s the Governments business or not. After all, caffeine has been demonstrated to be more addictive than heroine- should we ban it, too?The issue of “harms” is a red herring, IMOHO. The Government simply shouldn’t be in the business of dictating morality and public health, in my estimation.

Yes, it matters not that it is addictive or if it is morally wrong. What worries me is the potential damage that could be done by making drugs legal…

Would you want to add more alcoholics on the road, more crack addicts on the streets? Is there an acceptable percentage increase? I would argue that the acceptable percentage would have to be very small. I would further argue that the acceptable percentage would undoubtedly be exceeded.

I don’t care that others hurt themselves only that they do not harm others due to their changed behavior.

[Russiantank]

Crazy by my own standards ofcourse. But I can objectively say that the most fundamentalist Christians are unreasonable. They pretty much completely disregard logic. I have not been around junkies, but I have a good base of knowledge of the effects of all drugs and from what I know, alcohal causes the most agressive behavior, when anebriated. The actuall chemical effect alcohal has on alot of people is agressivness. I dont believe any other drug does this to the same extent of alcohal. I am only talking about the state of anebriation, the actuall distortion of perceptions caused by having the chemicals in you. Very few drugs actually even cause aggression. Most mellow you out, calm you down. Even hallucinagens with their extreme distortion of perception are not known to cause agression in any way near the level that alcohal does.

“It’s not that they could ruin society its that they would make it a little worse… which WHY should we do that?”

I messed up. I meant to write, “Using the argument that drugs can ruin the capacity of a society to function for the illegilization of drugs is absurd to me” I readily admit that drugs can cause significant problems. But so can eating too much. Like I said, so can being lazy. Should we illegilize over-eating, or illegalize being lazy? No, because the market economy provides incentive to be efficient. It provides incentive to not be lazy, If people dont want to be efficient, and want to take drugs, they lose out on the benefits of a market economy. Thats enough, if you propose creating a “perfect society” where we are like worker ants, perfectly efficient, than you can try that. Im pretty sure it wont work though. Government will only be succesfull at providing incentive to be productive, not forcing people to be productive. Thats like slavery.

I think we manage fine with alcohal… Ide have to guess that 90% of the problems with alcohal are from drunk driving. Thats easy to eliminate. I dont know why they havn’t done it yet, but make cars that require a sobriety test to start up. They use this method for first offendors of drunk driving in some states, but I dont see why not just make it required.

[thirst4metal]

@Russiantank

I have not been around junkies, but I have a good base of knowledge of the effects of all drugs and from what I know, alcohal causes the most agressive behavior, when anebriated.

Check the facts about the effects of PCP… the addicts are often violent, prone to hallucinations, and can become suicidal. I have seen inebriated alcoholics and their level of altered behaviour is far more controllable.
Crack-cocaine can especially cause very aggressive and ultra-paranoid behavior in addicts. I have been around alcoholics my whole life (heck I even dated an Irish person and I can tell you from experience that the effects are different. There are some pretty interesting study of the effect of these types of drugs on rats (mice?).

@Russiantank

Very few drugs actually even cause aggression. Most mellow you out, calm you down. Even hallucinagens with their extreme distortion of perception are not known to cause agression in any way near the level that alcohal does.

Do some more research… alcohol, by the way, is a depressant… many of its users are relaxed by alcohol (like wine) and many of the users become cool (ok the last part was a joke).

@Russiantank

If people dont want to be efficient, and want to take drugs, they lose out on the benefits of a market economy.

It’s not the economic effects that worry me… it’s the effects on behavior.

@Russiantank

Thats enough, if you propose creating a “perfect society” where we are like worker ants, perfectly efficient, than you can try that. Im pretty sure it wont work though.

That’s not my proposition at all… though ideally, man would want to change for the better of all… but it likely won’t happen due to man’s nature.

@Russiantank

I think we manage fine with alcohal… Ide have to guess that 90% of the problems with alcohal are from drunk driving. Thats easy to eliminate.

Please start to accomplish this since it is so easy… I’ll even help.

My problem is with the potent drugs… change the potency and we can talk.

[Phaedrus]

I don’t really want any drunks on the road. The simple fact is that driving under the influence is already illegal. Do you propose to make it even more illegal? Alcohol kills vastly more people every year than all other illegal drugs combined. So we should just ban booze, right? Problem solved? Er, wait- do you remember that was the true start of organized crime?

How is taking drugs “morally wrong”, or “morally right” for that matter? It may violate someone’s religious beliefs, but last time I checked the Constitution was the Law of the Land in America, not the Koran or KJV Bible.

Perhaps legallizing drugs would lead to some new drug use- I don’t think there’s much evidence for that, but it seems a logical assumption. Consider though that if people weren’t afraid of landing in the slammer, they would probably be a bit more willing to seek out rehab. But our current system makes junkies criminals, and seeking help is self incrimination.

I don’t think drugs are good for people. But hell, neither is a diet high in refined sugar and bleached wheat flour. Should we make that illegal as well? My issue is that I don’t think the “War on Drugs” is winnable, I think it’s creating more harm that good, and it’s furthermore no business of yours or Big Brothers what someone drinks, snorts or shoots up.

I would keep stiff penalties for driving or committing genuine crimes while under the influence, basically as we do now. But I don’t think merely ingesting a taboo substance should be a crime.

[cba1067950]

@thirst4metal

Hello Phaedrus.

@Phaedrus

It matters not one whit whether it’s addictive or not. To me the real issue is whether it’s the Governments business or not. After all, caffeine has been demonstrated to be more addictive than heroine- should we ban it, too?The issue of “harms” is a red herring, IMOHO. The Government simply shouldn’t be in the business of dictating morality and public health, in my estimation.

Yes, it matters not that it is addictive or if it is morally wrong. What worries me is the potential damage that could be done by making drugs legal…

Would you want to add more alcoholics on the road, more crack addicts on the streets? Is there an acceptable percentage increase? I would argue that the acceptable percentage would have to be very small. I would further argue that the acceptable percentage would undoubtedly be exceeded.

I don’t care that others hurt themselves only that they do not harm others due to their changed behavior.

See this is funny because I honestly doubt I would notice a difference if there were more crack heads on the street or not. Everyone I know is already hooked on some sort of drug and crack is just gaining popularity nowadays so it wouldn’t surprise me really. I actually assume when I meet people that they like drugs or have some sort of drug preference. And I work at a theater where when certain movies come out or if it’s late at night I’d say atleast 70% of the customers come in high or drunk. Possibly an exageration or misjudgement but it’s a hell of a fucking lot more than I think it should be.

[thirst4metal]

@Phaedrus

Alcohol kills vastly more people every year than all other illegal drugs combined. So we should just ban booze, right? Problem solved? Er, wait- do you remember that was the true start of organized crime?

I appreciate your wit… and you make a very good point. Are there any solutions that would be practical?

You say that alcohol kills more people than all illegal drugs combined? I wonder if this would change if drugs were legalized… perhaps a similar situation would arise from marijuana.

@Phaedrus

How is taking drugs “morally wrong”, or “morally right” for that matter?

I don’t think it is morally wrong or morally right (personally I couldn’t care less if a person chose to harm themselves) but my argument is simply that making drugs legal might reduce trafficking and related crimes but would increase other crimes. More importantly, no offense to my alcoholic friends and associates, but the penalties of a DUI are not severe enough for repeat offenders.

@Phaedrus

Consider though that if people weren’t afraid of landing in the slammer, they would probably be a bit more willing to seek out rehab. But our current system makes junkies criminals, and seeking help is self incrimination.

Hmmm… I will have to think on this some but I must say that persons who choose to seek help (before they are caught) are not subject to criminal charges. Also, seeking treatment after the fact is kind of like stealing money and offering to give it back… there’s something we all know doesn’t fit… are they really seeking treatment? Let me think on that…

@Phaedrus

I don’t think drugs are good for people.

I don’t care if they are good or not… my fear is that many more traffic accidents resulting in bystanders being hurt will be relegated to treatment time after time… much like with many of my alcoholic friends (sorry guys!).

@Phaedrus

But hell, neither is a diet high in refined sugar and bleached wheat flour. Should we make that illegal as well?

God forbid!!!

@Phaedrus

My issue is that I don’t think the “War on Drugs” is winnable, I think it’s creating more harm that good, and it’s furthermore no business of yours or Big Brothers what someone drinks, snorts or shoots up.

I agree the war is difficult… but does that make it unnecessary? It also becomes one’s business when it affects one’s life instead of just the junkies… that’s the point where we are at an impasse: should we prevent or just react to the effects of these drugs?

@Phaedrus

I would keep stiff penalties for driving or committing genuine crimes while under the influence, basically as we do now.

I guess the many alcoholics buddies and associates that get away with multiple offenses are hard for me to look past… The penalties just don’t seem severe for the risk that they are posing on the road… And to add on top of that more potent drugs… hmmm. It’s something hard to swallow… but please continue discussing. I am open to everyone’s point of view.

Help me get passed my reservations.

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@thirst4metal

I don’t think it is morally wrong or morally right (personally I couldn’t care less if a person chose to harm themselves) but my argument is simply that making drugs legal might reduce trafficking and related crimes but would increase other crimes. More importantly, no offense to my alcoholic friends and associates, but the penalties of a DUI are not severe enough for repeat offenders.

Agreed. My friend has commited countless crimes drunk. What I find funny is that they take away his car and not his alcohol because they caught him driving drunk. I mean logically this doesn’t make a hell of a lot of sense. I mean honestly… If someone had a gun control problem the person wouldn’t be allowed to own a gun. That’s why there are background checks for selling guns. But alcohol abusers who kill I assume more people than gun abusers especially when combined with cars is treated just a tad really dumb.

[scythekain]

@Phaedrus

It matters not one whit whether it’s addictive or not. To me the real issue is whether it’s the Governments business or not. After all, caffeine has been demonstrated to be more addictive than heroine- should we ban it, too?

The issue of “harms” is a red herring, IMOHO. The Government simply shouldn’t be in the business of dictating morality and public health, in my estimation.

one of the downsides of socialism I’m afraid… It’s funny that someone above blamed christians… it was actually the liberals.

You can thank them for the seat belt law, the helmet law, the public smoking laws, the original alcohol prohibition which created the chicago gangster. The modern drug prohibition which contributes GREATLY to gang life.

so the question shouldn’t be “should it be legal” the question should be

“what is worse: death from gang life, and all related criminal activity?
or death from drug overdose? – (which there would be remarkably less if it was legalized and properly educated.)”

T4M I had a friend that got heavily involved in hard core drugs as well, I just chose to hang out with different friends because that behaviour didn’t interest me.

[cba1067950]

@scythekain

T4M I had a friend that got heavily involved in hard core drugs as well, I just chose to hang out with different friends because that behaviour didn’t interest me.

I’d feel a deep sense of regret if my friend O.D. because one of his hobbies stopped being interesting to me.

[scythekain]

@cba1067950

@scythekain

T4M I had a friend that got heavily involved in hard core drugs as well, I just chose to hang out with different friends because that behaviour didn’t interest me.

I’d feel a deep sense of regret if my friend O.D. because one of his hobbies stopped being interesting to me.

you don’t think I feel regret over that? I realize there’s nothing I can do about it, and telling him he’s wasting his life is pointless.