The lies of World Vision

so it has been trying to eradicate hunger for over 40 years! and still there is hunger, so for 40 years, it has failed miserably. the lack of success is in itself proof of the nonsense of its doctrine.

And WV has been doing it for over 40 yrs, without any success. why can’t world vision tell the poor africans the truth that ‘if you can not afford a child, then don’t have it’. we, by constantly paying for their mistakes, bringing their suffering upon us are in effect encouraging the propagation of their irresponsibility.

but why ought I pay for someone else’s mistake? and why do all worldvision black children have European names? like Thomas, instead of Thomuduladi, or Thomastidooo???

why don’t worldvision just bring them to European onto our social security program and all problems will be solved.

the underlying causes of poverty is irresponsibility. and why on earth ought I help someone else’s child. I mean a black child can’t have asian or white or American indian kids? so how am I continuing the line of my ancestors? and also, it is not fair to sponsor one child and leave the rest of his community in poverty, you either sponsor all or sponsor none, otherwise it would not be fair.

why ought I help someone who does not bother to help themselves by keeping their trousers on?

More expositions coming up!

On top of all that, the offspring ought not hate the west for not helping him. for the cause of his suffering lies in his existence which was brought about by the carelessness of his father and mother. so the real culprit is are the irresponsible parents. they ought be hated for causing his existence of suffering.

also if the west help him, will he in turn help the west? if not, then what is the point?

the real cuprits world vision ought to tackle are the irresponsible parents, they ought be whipped for their indiscretions which bought about suffering to their son. The off spring ought not look sadly at us internet users, but stare with hatred against his father who caused him all his suffering.

oi…in many ways I disagree and I don’t even wanna get started on that.

But organizations or whatever like the United Nations, [theres a sub-group that deals with poverty and foreign aid. UNC…something.]

And some charities possibly world vision as well are all corrupt and some take upto 80% of your money for themselves rather than spending it on the children. United Nations is useless its just become a beauracratic institution and ever since it adopted its peacekeeping strategies instead of making peace by force they have become useless.

Pinnacle of Reason:World Vision Australia began in 1965, as part of the World Vision international partnership in about 100 countries.
so it has been trying to eradicate hunger for over 40 years! and still there is hunger, so for 40 years, it has failed miserably. the lack of success is in itself proof of the nonsense of its doctrine.
Change the life of a child
The best way to change a child’s life is to change the world in which they live.And WV has been doing it for over 40 yrs, without any success. why can’t world vision tell the poor africans the truth that if you can not afford a child, then don’t have it . we, by constantly paying for their mistakes, bringing their suffering upon us are in effect encouraging the propagation of their irresponsibility.

K: Wow, such total ignorance in one post. You don’t see that very often.
Ok, let us start with the fact you naively think 40 years is enough to eradicate hunger. I think eliminating poverty in the world will take a couple of hundred years. So it doesn’t surprise me it that in 40
years they haven’t eliminated hunger. It will take a world wide everyone
participating effort to eliminate hunger as well as poverty. Rome wasn’t
built in a day. It took decades to remove diseases that haunted
the earth. so to expect many decades to remove hunger and poverty
must be expected. I am sorry you have been infected by sitcoms that
tell us our problems can be solved in 22 minutes, however in the
real world, solving problems takes time and the greater the problem
the greater the time it takes to solve the problem.

Kropotkin

I feel sorry you are one of those lazy office workers who does no work all day. no the whole thing can change overnight if there is will. there was not will for 40 yrs, do you think it will miraclously appear?

also I am tackling the cause of poverty, which is irresponsibility. you are just a fool, please don’t reply to any of my thread ever again. now get lost.

Pinnacle of Reason:I feel sorry you are one of those lazy office workers who does no work all day. no the whole thing can change overnight if there is will. there was not will for 40 yrs, do you think it will miraculously appear?

K: You know nothing about me. Don’t pretend.

POR: “also I am tackling the cause of poverty, which is irresponsibility. you are just a fool, please don’t reply to any of my thread ever again. now get lost.”

K: Well, I am not the one making really stupid statements.
The cause of poverty is irresponsibility? I have read enough
of your stuff to know you have no sense of shame when you make
dumb statements, so I am not going to worry about it.
And as far as my replying to your post. I will reply to anybody
I wish.

Kropotkin

I am asking you to kindly P/off

POR, most of the statements you have claimed in the first post are untrue. Firstly you said

You have to realize that world hunger is an immense task to complete, and one that i believe can never be successfully accomplished. The same goes with trying to end poverty, as long as their is money there will be rich people and their will be poor people. WV is trying to end hunger and poverty, which is a very noble thing to do, for you to say that 40 years is more than enough time to rid of hunger and poverty is as absurd as the idea of removing all money in the world. Hunger and poverty have been around since the beginning of human civilization, it is not something that can be cured of in 40 years.

Then you go on to say

First of all, you claim that we should tell them not to have children? You go on to say that this is caused by irresponsibility, i disagree, i believe the cause to be ignorance, it is their ignorance that is causing the evil and pain and it is also your ignorance that is leading to your foolishness. Then you go to say “we, by constantly paying for their mistakes” this is again illogical as i’m quite sure that YOU aren’t giving them ANY money, and if you were, then stop. no one is forcing you to give them money! this is a charity! You are ignorant of this fact and thus have made wrong assumptions in your argument.

Then you go to say

again YOU don’t have to pay for anything, this is not a mandatory act. Secondly with the names, it is IRRELIVANT what their names are, you are making a logical fallacy and being racist while your at it. One’s name does not dictate one’s nature or character. Again your ignorance is leading you to make wrong assumptions and slander.

Then you go to say

This sentence in itself is a formal logical fallacy as it does not make sense. This is not even a wrong assumption, instead it is your english and your message is illogical to any degree, clarify your thoughts before you go on to babble and slander.

Finally you go onto say

This statement has again many logical errors due to your ignorance. Firstly you claim to know the underlying causes of poverty is irresponsibility yet give no substaintial backing or any evidence whatsoever for that matter to support you argument. You are just making vague generalizations which have no infrastracture to it. Secondly you ask “so how am I continuing the line of my ancestors?” This is another logical mistake, how can someone that is not part of your family continuue YOUR ancestory? Are you related to teh child? Have you even met him/her? Where do you claim such things? If you are concerned about your ancestory, then i suggest you create your own children. Another fact is that, when people help out with WV they are NOT concerned with procreation. They are people who care, and have the humanity, dignity, and the intellect to realize that the world is in need of grave help and that peoplee are suffering. But let’s go beyond that, I am not trying to show you that you have no sympathy and that you are cold harded, that would not be very nice. As i have shown, all your arguments are ILLOGICAL, they do not need the cause of sympathy to be defeated. Next time you have diarreah of the mouth, please go to your bathroom and let it go. Do not slander this wonderful site and impale it with your dagger of ignorance, thank you.

Blindseer

with so much usage of ígnorance’i am beginning to think I am talking with Jacko the Wacko.

how is it immense, I have offered practical solution to the problem of hunger. do not have children if you can’t afford it. a simple solution, if we have less population then there are less people to feed. correct? so less poverty. right???

are you saying that people are so stupid that they do not know they will give birth to children without contraception? they know what they are doing but they couldn’t careless about their kids.

please look at the aid my government is giving to the poor. I am a tax payer so my money is being wasted. so I am giving you idiot.

no you stupid fart, i am saying that if we bring all the poor onto the social welfare system then all their problems would be solved. we would be working to support them, we would be working for the poor man like his slave. this all because he is poor, that entitle the west to become his slave.

no you moron, all people of my race share my ancestry. if you have half a brain you would recognise that my kids does not resemble me in anyway but in race. there is really no such thing as human beings without a racial value. the racial value is an intrinsic value of human existence so without race is not being human. now please get lost, I don’t want to speak with you no further.

Hes getting angry and annoyed cuz he can’t defend himself because he can’t prove anything because he himself is ignorant Of yourse he will deny this and make some illogical statement. Some of these people do not even know contraception exists, some governments forbid it, they are usualy people that are culturally and religiously pushed into having children. Some even have childrean so that they can get extra income by making them work. It is not irresponsibility because you can’t be irresponsible about something you don’t know about the two greatest evils at work in the poor countries are ignorance and money. Your government gives very very little compared to how much it should in foreign aid, it spends a more catastrophical amount on weapons of mass destruction and other instruments of murder.

Until we stop having “money” poverty can never be wiped out. And least of all by your plan.

I’d suggest for you to re configure your life, go to these poor countries or try being poor and you’ll see the truth, if unwilling at least read some books not writen by Adolf Hitler. Mein Kampf is no a enlighteneing book and does not improve intelligence so stop reading it you ignorant facist.

Lol, no, but really, PoR did have many true points.
Why would poor people in bad conditions have so much sex and AIDs and kids? Afreeca is overpopumulating it’s peeps and yall know they don’t have the kind of development to support all that. Who is really going to be able to fix the problem here? Places like Etheopea are different, and their problems were because of civil war. Big differents between mass-sex-practice and war damage.

I think the mass sex practice is a natrual response to the mass death. Its a natrual response to try and balance the death ratio because so many people die at such a fast rate that if there wasn’t mass births they would start dying out as a country. But the problem is they catch them selves in a vicious circle the more they give birth to the more die, the more die the more they need to give birth to.

I really belive people should share their wealth and give to the poor but never tell anyone, never brag about it but hide it and not be proud of it. Because if you show off that you are giving to charity you are doing it for all the wrong reasons.

A muslim classmate of mine told the philosophy class of this story where the rich people completly shared their riches with the poor and eventualy the two oppositve end met in the middle and were proseprous together. It was a golden age of sorts.

PoR it’s too bad you’re not a funnier guy, or else then this psuedo-satire thing you have going on would be worthwhile.

Dan~

and I’ll pray for you my friend. Whoever does my will does the will of my Father also.

Vincent

socialism is just a stage you are going through, you are basically afraid of yourself.

In African, as well as other third world nations completely free of social safety nets, a big family is equivilant to old age security.
In the eyes of mufassa mohammed motumbo from kenya his family is what will keep him alive and eating in his old age. The fact that living conditions are so poor as to make each day a scramble to survive makes old mutumbo not really give two shits about the bigger picture, as long as he eats.

Sounds like you got a promotion PoR? :smiley:
Does that mean we have to reshoot the Last Supper scene with you in the middle?

you don’t know shit about me. so stop assuming that you do.

Dr.Satanical

hahahahahhaaha, great name. If world vision has any decency it would use it instead of European Thomas. hahaha. you are hilarious.

km2_33

and whoever believes in me believes also in the Father who sent me.

Vincent

I know you are a loser and I don’t give a fuck about it.

The first lie is in the name, the kid is not called Thomas, the first thing he spoke was a lie.