It seems that all atheist, (and I do mean all) will refute any assertion of Absolutes. They claim that everything is relative and truth is only true for you personally. To me and the vast majority of all human kind throughout history this idea or pure relativity has not been accepted and the very idea creates a logical paradox. This idea literally kicks the legs out from any position to make a counter argument if you think about it and is a circular self supporting idea to boot.
The lack of a singularity or some form of set in stone Absolute makes a purely relative world and therefore all that we do and abide by dissolves into social chaos as well as a complete mental breakdown in the reality we live in. Without some set boundaries there is no grounds for thought and all of our construct of right and wrong and good and bad become time and culture sensitive and thus ultimatly meaningless. So technically by this standard the majority of the earths population could at some time accept anything as true regardless of all the logical visible evidence against it.
Example:
At one point in time you could build a building defying the known laws of gravity on earth.
See the problem with this idea is that there is evidence of boundaries and laws that are already set into motion and have been in existence as long as we have been here, and since we know we did not create these laws the logical path would lead most to the conclusion that some master reference is there to govern these laws and bounds, otherwise there would be some evidence of these laws changing and/or popping into and out of existence.
The confusing part is when we begin to understand portions of these laws without full knowledge of how they work and interact with other overlapping laws (gravity comes to mind). When this happens the shallow mind tries to say that they changed or evolved in some way, but the majority sees this as it should be considering all the other external evidence, and that is we simply don’t fully understand them yet.
So for a thought experiment and tool to further this discussion lets see if we can find any consensus of any unchanging preexisting absolute that man has not or logically cannot influence. Though this seems impossible I’ll use the laws of nature as an example since most here believe that nature and other animals or life preceded modern humans, and these laws are believed by most to have existed before man.
Surely you can think of some things that are absolutely True.
I can think of a few.
Now for some examples:
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This world and reality is governed by laws and boundaries, regardless if we fully understand them or not, they do indeed exist.
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All things known point to some source that caused it. Cause comes before the affect.
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There is an organized and seemingly purposeful pattern for survival that has existed before man. (this one may not be so good)
My personal examples:
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I exist.
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One day my body will cease to be a living organism and that state will not change, ever.
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Being completely selfish and having total disregard for all others feelings by my actions will make me a social pariah and cause me to be separated from the majority.
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We all seek and need Love (nothing can survive in a vacuum).
I bet I could find some more.
In the end we should be able to determine if there is such a thing as Truth unless all these things can be logically disputed as relative which means that it is dependant on something that is also dependant on something and so on and on without any source, IOW, something from nothing.
Now if were are going to go off into fantasy land and start using improvable and irrational examples to dispute this then we are not going to get anywhere. For the purpose of this argument lets stick to what can be proven with real world examples and logical connected thought, no Star Trek logic please.