The nature of a modern human life?

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When i wonder what the human mind mainly cosists of, culturally, a few things come to mind.
So many people i’ve met have a life which consists primarily of labor, religion and consumption.
Other than these three states of conditioning, i find basically nothing else in the people’s minds.

Education is basically work training and labor training.
Religion is basically behavioral and ontological conditioning/training. morals and how to pretend to ‘think’.
And “art” tends to be consumer products, like movies and books all are made to be sold,
so the artistic and alternative fascets of human experience basically just exist within
a bunch of products that people buy.

All of my friends and family are basically strangers to me.
They think that they know something about me, but they don’t.
Most of my relationships aren’t even relationships, they just appear to be relationships.
If we do not actually know the truth about a person, how can we think that we know them, and are their friend? How can we value them if we do not know what value truly is?

Conditioning, and sharing in a mutual belief towards unsubstantial lies and nonsense, that seems to be the basis of how people live and what they think.

The other evening i spent a few hours listening to drunks talking to me about how God and Jesus are.
Now despite not teaching me anything real or substantial about the true origins of the universe,
these people still were basically failures at even the basics of functionality and comprehention.

Although it appears that i live in a society, i’m actually alone.
I have almost never in my 24 years ever successfully communicated with a human being to the point of transmitting any actual true understanding passed the basic point of refreshing memories of the most common and banal experiences of appearances.

Although we associate death and deadness, with a state whence there is no thought and no activity anymore…
The amount of things that i truly ‘can do’, and the amount of things i actually comprehend or precieve, compared to what -could- be done and what -could- be thought or know, is so minisule and insectile that I feel I’m basically as good as ‘dead’ already. This isn’t really even a life. All of these tiny events on this useless planet fade away ni instantly and nobody ever looked at them or understood them in the first place.

Every day i consider the future, i remember that i will die.

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Death is freedom. Shake off this mortal coil,… is the expression. You’d be no longer blinded by this facade called our image. How we divide life into parrellel avenues, when they all cross over adventually.

Forget religion. Forget the job unless it is spiritually growing (like helping people cross the road (metephorically)). Forget it all. Find the moment. Find the limits you physically know, and push past them (physically in the state of exsistance). We are human BEINGs. What are we being. I’d say a week long canoe trip and camping is awesome for my consumer side. Consume life. Find a challenge of paintball wars, where grouping together as a team teaches you human compassion and bonding. That is where religion starts.

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Dan~: When i wonder what the human mind mainly cosists of, culturally, a few things come to mind.
So many people i’ve met have a life which consists primarily of labor, religion and consumption.
Other than these three states of conditioning, i find basically nothing else in the people’s minds.

K : What should be in people’s mind then?

Dan: Education is basically work training and labor training.
Religion is basically behavioral and ontological conditioning/training. morals and how to pretend to ‘think’.
And “art” tends to be consumer products, like movies and books all are made to be sold,
so the artistic and alternative fascets of human experience basically just exist within
a bunch of products that people buy.

K: and what should education be? and what is the role of the artist in society?

D: All of my friends and family are basically strangers to me.
They think that they know something about me, but they don’t.
Most of my relationships aren’t even relationships, they just appear to be relationships.
If we do not actually know the truth about a person, how can we think that we know them, and are their friend? How can we value them if we do not know what value truly is?

K: What truth would you want to know about a person?

D: Conditioning, and sharing in a mutual belief towards unsubstantial lies and nonsense, that seems to be the basis of how people live and what they think.

K: and the problem here is?

D: The other evening i spent a few hours listening to drunks talking to me about how God and Jesus are.
Now despite not teaching me anything real or substantial about the true origins of the universe,
these people still were basically failures at even the basics of functionality and comprehention.

K: If you took the representative human to be an someone with down’s syndrome, than that person would
lack the basic of functionality and comprehension.

D: Although it appears that i live in a society, i’m actually alone.
I have almost never in my 24 years ever successfully communicated with a human being to the point of transmitting any actual true understanding passed the basic point of refreshing memories of the most common and banal experiences of appearances.

K: what makes you think the human experience is anything but the common and banal experiences?

D: Although we associate death and deadness, with a state whence there is no thought and no activity anymore…
The amount of things that i truly ‘can do’, and the amount of things i actually comprehend or precieve, compared to what -could- be done and what -could- be thought or know, is so minisule and insectile that I feel I’m basically as good as ‘dead’ already. This isn’t really even a life. All of these tiny events on this useless planet fade away ni instantly and nobody ever looked at them or understood them in the first place.

K: yah, and?

D: Every day i consider the future, i remember that i will die.

K: and there is not much you can do about it. So you might as well learn to deal with it. It is going to happen to each and every
one of us.

Kropotkin

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What should life consist off? What should people have in their minds?

What is wrong with this?

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Diversions are not solutions.

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“Should” is meaningless. It’s a concept derived from desire and distortion.
Somebody can want things to be a certain way, but “should” doesn’t objectively exist in the universe.

There is no should but at this time artists tend to serve us the same as narcotics do, socially.
Drugs and music are done together. That is their purpose right now.

The real truth, not just my imagination and neurvous reactions.

Human life is a religion i don’t want to adhere to.

I don’t think the human experience tends to be high above the animals or divinely put here by a top-notch God to truly know and morally value all.

So life’s not what people claim it is.

I don’t deal with it, nobody deals with it. It happens, and it’s a fact, but we can’t do deals with facts, even though we try to.

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In the dream world of human imagination, anything -could- be indefinitely “better” than it is.
When we imagine something which we think is much better than something else,
we can then say some [opinion =] fact of reality, is “wrong” and another is “right”.

Life -could- be better, and humans could be smarter, or less dumb, -could be-, in that world of imagination…

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People don’t really seem to be living their lives, but seem to live how they think a life ought to be lived.

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Come to the edge," he said.
They said, “We are afraid.”
“Come to the edge,” he said.
They came, he pushed them…
and they flew.
— Guillaume Appolinaire

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Ha, I love when the capitalist sympathizers come in and start decrying their indignation.

If you have to ask this question, you need to close your books, log off your computer and go experience something real. You know, with that thing they call a body.

Human beings aren’t numbers to be indoctrinated into a workforce. Most people are so distracted by the “roadmaps for the soul” placed out by politico-social-religious institutions that they are never forced to confront the very basic facts of their existence on this planet. A spiritual being, a sexual being, an autonomous being, a communal being. We have developed past the primal “core” consciousness into a state in which we are consistently and unavoidably aware of our own mortality.

What puts the human life above the “common and banal experiences” is just this extension of our consciousness into a realm of mortal awareness. We simply cannot, for this reason, accept the mundane as all there is. For better or for worse this is the case.

Divine experience is out there to grab–it is not reserved for the Priests just as politics is not reserved for the politicians. For some reason these metaphysical categorical imperatives inform much of what people accept about what they can and cannot do for themselves. Someone who needs to ask what exists beyond the veil of capitalistic consumerism needs to stop asking questions and start doing.

“I went into the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived…I wanted to live deep and suck out all the marrow of life.” - Thoreau

The marrow of life doesn’t exist in disposable mass-produced commodities. Commodity, convenience, equated with “quality of life,” the most infernal indoctrination. Intellectual slavery is slavery. The modern human life is enslaved by distractions. The West is the first to enslave you with their Dollar instead of their Whips.

In a world in which capitalistic secular mass media shapes the common worldview, Autodidacticism must be taught and spread, lest we homogenize into nothingness…the human experience extends beyond consumption and mass-produced products. Under a captialistic system we are walking targets for marketers from Madison Ave waiting to sell us the next left-wing politico-fashion statement to keep us from confronting our real selves. We’re encouraged to “create” ourselves with products.

[i]"The western ideal of obliterating everything, even religion using humanitarian secularism, is a blatant attempt to find the least common denominator, in this case the species, our identity with the concept ‘human being’ and from there building an edifice of delusions.

The American culture is, in fact, the obliteration of all culture, under the pretext of then allowing the individual to choose his own identity."[/i] -Satyr

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You must be young and still leeching off your parents.

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I would say the easiest solution might be to move. Maybe you just live at ground zero for dumbassness.

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Sorta true…

First, no one can ever know exactly what another mind('s experience) is (the mind only exists for a moment; it is a single experience/awareness/subjective reality. The idea of a mind, or a person, that exists through spacetime is an illusion caused by, amongst many other things, the brain’s neurons being networked in such a way that a mind equates itself with the experiences of a past mind).

There is only a current temporary sense you (and another) are experiencing an (what the mind computes as a single whole specific) outer thing a certain way–that you’d agree it can be suitably described with certain culturally-generalized meanings (of words),
or there is the sense thst you do not see “Eye to eye” on that thing.

You, as in your mind('s experience in/at/of a single current moment) can never be understood by another in the sense that you (and other people) would like (themselves) to be; the mind seeks validation; assurance it is properly interpretting and organizing information (so it can confidently move forward into the unknown/unpredictable).

We are all insane–everything we experience is an illusion, and not being programmed to understand this when we are initially installed with language softwares results in our being delusional (thinking those illusions are accurate representations of outer reality).

It’s not so much that some are more knowledgeable than others, or more understanding (though this is true), it’s that some are more aware that everything they experience only exists as their experience (that it is not an image of any shared reality); some are more aware of their habitual delusional thinking.

You (and by that I mean minds that have access to memories associated with an illusory you) may be less likely to think delusionally, but “you” are still plagued by insanity, because you take your loneliness (and the idea that “one” shouldn’t feel “alone”) seriously–it has an affect on your potential to be content with your experiences.

I don’t say that to talk shit, I still suffer from these ridiculous delusions too. There is a difference between consciouslly and rationally knowing they are illusions, and no longer being subject to deep-rooted habits.

The only ultimate right or wrong, ought or ought not is whether or not you accept your experience or feel antagonistic with it (to feel this way is the human idiocy, because you are your experience at a moment–you are that thing you consider an opposition; you are that idea of opposition; you are every conscious thing, every sensory experience, memory, etc).

When I am around most people I also feel they don’t have any idea who I am, I feel there are things I understand that they couldn’t possibly grasp, and I suffer a lot of loneliness because of it. But I try to be productive with the situation. If I find something about someone I like (it doesn’t all have to be so intellectually-focused), I try to tap into that, and enjoy the environment with the potential it has.

You get to a point where cursing everything, elevating to super-states of self-righteouness, and then doucting yourself and plummeting to self-pity and existential confusion, feels more and more ridiculous, depressing and shameful. Finally you start seeing it as it is, totally ridiculous; you realize you’ve been entertaining yourself by turning your life into a grandiose tragedy. I enjoy the comedies much, much more.