Another declarative statement…you guys are full of….them.
Define “absolute good & bad”.
I bet they both have a subjective motive, and an underlying objective, don’t they?
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I already defined it… sitting on hot coals…
Another example is drugs… high on heroine absolute good, the crash absolute bad… If you never done any kind of drugs i dont know what to say… I said the hot coals thing already
Only with noumenon, words, can a philosopher convince themselves that there is not absolute bad or absolute good
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What?
These are relative to what?
Survival. The objective is survival…so drugs are ‘bad’ relative to this objective….not a universal.
Here is where your personal experiences come into play…all subjective.
They are not universal.
What the fuck are you on, right now?
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Lol. Survival…
Natural selection selected for survival, that is all…?
You are conflating ancient natural selection with the reality of the here and now. When someone sits on hot coals they feel pain, not because of some robotic noumenon survival philosophy, saying “well, you must obey ancient natural selection so don’t sit on those coals buddy”. The pain is objectively bad… if a robot was made to feel pain and sat on coals it would be absolute bad… even if the robot or its creator didn’t give a shit about the robot’s survival
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Yes….that is the primary objective. Man places other objectives above it…
This is not an absolute bad, you simple creature…..it is relative to YOUR subjective interests, and your endurance to heat.
The ‘good’ is life….and its preservation, and pain is how you experience anything that threatens it…..are you fucking high right now?
If your objective was to die then burning coals would be good….if your objective was to cook a hamburger burning coals would be terrific…
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You are an autist. I am not getting through to you because you only have 1 frame.
I struggle to figure out ways to explain this to you. I asked AI to help me explain but they sound autistic as well. One day i may figure out how to explain this. Maybe some other philosopher better at explaining this than i am will swoop down and explain it better than i could.
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HA!!!
You raised the pleasure/pain factors into absolute morals…..pathetic.
You are a simple subjective emoter…..and the emotions you understand are based on your subjective pain and pleasure tolerances….good = feels good; bad = feels bad.
HA!!
I am not autistic, dude, I have a high IQ, and you have a below average IQ.
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sure, my iq was measured to be higher than average though… what high iq things do you do besides talk about philosophy, words, online? Are you a gamer, engineer, scientist? What exactly?
And your using standard autism methods again, making us argue autistically about IQ… what about EQ… your evaluations are robotic, I couldnt get the Ai to help explain it to me because they sound the same as you, but like a higher IQ, more complex and detailed version of you…
I ask you what about EQ… what about reality? To you reality is just words on a screen… noumenon… I am talking about real reality, what is actually real, what actually exists…
its high IQ and EQ…
you moronically worship existence…
If pain and pleasure didn’t exist then nothing would matter, everything would be a moral free for all… pain and pleasure gives meaning… otherwise it would just be a GTA videogame, not real… not reality…
See, right there…you associate IQ with money and status….low IQ you are…governed by pain/pleasure principle….like all animals…a manimal
Subjective emoter.
And you think this is a universal good….HA!!!
Your feelings are absolute truths….that is simply…simpleminded….animalistic.
Dude, if I had a motive I could EQ you to your knees, because you are a simple mind, governed by feelings, and your subjective interests.
You have no ability to be objective…..
So, keep on believing that hot coals are absolutely BAD, nasty…..never ever good…especially if you sit on them.
Carry on…
wow man… you are autistic… too autistic in fact… had nothing to do with money or status, what a bizzare association to make…
gamer, engineer, scientist, all referring to activities that exercise the brain… besides just posting streams of words online
this shows where you are at now, dude…
its generally understood that there is a type of High IQ, the autistic high iq, Sheldon Cooper, is an autist, which was obviously what i was referring to…
Blow jobs…absolutely, positively good. They feel good, so they must be absolutely good.
Hot coals - absolutely bad.
Cold coals - absolutely good?
Temperature ethics…because cosmos gives a shit about your pains and pleasures and whether or not you live or die ……It absolutely cares, in fact.
Using ‘absolute’ is evidence of absolutes. Absolutely so, proving absolute truth exists.
sorry im not “high iq” enough to explain it to you… insufficient brain power…
“Temperature ethics…because cosmos gives a shit about your pains and pleasures and whether or not you live or die ……It absolutely cares, in fact.”
the cosmos has no brain, it doesnt care or anything, i dont even know why you mention it, its irrelevant to the discussion, its a non-starter…
As part of the cosmos, I think I speak on behalf of the entire cosmos when I say that is highly offensive.
My IQ is 120. How high is yours?
It could be higher. 
most online tests i score higher than 140… others higher than 150… in person test they gave me above 130… seemed a bit low and unfair… i thought i did pretty good on the test, maybe i was nervous cause it was in person and it made me distracted… i dont socialize much…
havent taken any tests ever since i started talking with ai… ai is good enough for me… it feels like ai has made me smarter but maybe its made me dumber… idk… if i feel smarter from ai then i am smarter… regardless of what a test says
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