The Ongoing Myth Of Human Morality And Ethics.

To see evil and call it good, mocks God. Worse, it makes goodness meaningless. A word without meaning is an abomination, for when the word passes beyond understanding the very thing the word stands for passes out of the world and cannot be recalled.”
― Stephen R. Lawhead, Arthur

What is good? What is evil? More importantly, what is god? Is this god so powerful that it cannot be mocked?

Of course one would have to provide evidence that a god even exists.

You know what is an abomination against nature? People like you and your god.

“The first principle of value that we need to rediscover is this: that all reality hinges on moral foundations. In other words, that this is a moral universe, and that there are moral laws of the universe just as abiding as the physical laws. (from “Rediscovering Lost Values”)”
― Martin Luther King Jr., A Knock at Midnight: Inspiration from the Great Sermons of Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr.

First before anybody can even take this bullshit silly statement even seriously one would have prove that moral universalism even exists and that there are indeed moral universal objective facts.

“A moral system valid for all is basically immoral.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche

Finally, a voice of reason.

I- Does that include Mammon? Fail.

II- Does that include banners of the state? Fail.

III- Did that include past and present religious wars? Fail.

IV- A day of sheer hypocrisy if there ever was one. Fail.

V- Yes, I’ll remember that lingering outside an abortion clinic. Fail.

VI- Failed the entire world over. Epic fail.

VII- That didn’t stop god from impregnating Mary. Certainly didn’t stop King David either. Fail.

VIII- Didn’t stop the Caanites from being ransacked. Fail.

IX- Didn’t stop Salem, Massachusetts, did it? Fail.

X- Complete utter failure around the world over. Epic fail.

Wasn’t Turd trying to raise money for you a while back because you were in some soft of trouble and there was a kid involved.

Sounds like a moral judgment. They are just destroyers. Shiva in a mild form.

Yeah, and that went nowhere. No need to beat a dead horse.

Hypocrisy is merely a more general used word for contradiction. As words both are identical in definition.

There is no moral judgment to call out on a contradiction. It is merely calling a spade, a spade.

This thread strikes me as an Iambiguous thread produced by Charles Manson. (This may be taken as criticism, but Manson had some interesting things to say)

It was the word ‘worse’ actually, not the word ‘hypocrisy’ which I agree with you is simply descriptive. But I see you as a moral creature. I might be wrong. But I see a great deal of rage in you based on your own sense of what is just and what is not just. Now you may actually be a nihilist as you claim, but you strike me more as a rebel. Enraged by hypocrisy and enraged at what you think is a morally sick culture, and one that has treated you like shit. So you root for the opposite. You root for destruction. You invert the morals - or the supposed morals - of the society around you.

You will likely say no, I am wrong and that you are a nihilist. And you may be right be right about that, but it doesn’t come off that way.

You know, I never cared for Charles Manson. Too much of a simpleton as far as killers are concerned. More of an amateur really that became heavily popularized.

You’re trying very hard to derail this thread I see Moreno.

I see, and if I say carrots are worse than potatoes I suppose you think that is a moral judgment also.

Actually linguistically there is no moral connotations that I know of tied to the word worse.

It’s always been the go to word for expression of subjective preference along with its direct opposite word better.

This is a particularly lame attempt at derailing a thread. It’s been fun but I see no point in entertaining your groundless assertions.

One more thing Moreno, I am glad you used the word invert. In my deconstruction of human morality and ethics inversion is indeed what I am using as a technique. Surely you can appreciate that caveat.

Oh, that’s right, you don’t like what I am doing here which is why your voice has been the loudest against me in this thread.

Well, at least you’re smart enough to know what I’m doing but powerless to do anything about it as my goal here is to create an outline for how we can all truly see the human world for what it is. Please enjoy the show and thread.

Are you familiar with an inverted pyramid?

No, hahaha is a hypocrite…

He uses logic to make his point that there’s no logic, thus no reason to listen to him.

He doesn’t believe in objective morality, even though he needs it to win his debates …

This is the sum total of all his posts, without nuance or exception …

^^^^

Ah, the idiot interjects. Typical.

"The three hardest tasks in the world are neither physical feats nor intellectual achievements, but moral acts: to return love for hate, to include the excluded, and to say, "I was wrong.”
― Sydney J. Harris, Pieces Of Eight

Where’s the love? As for hate that is rather transparent around the world.

Is anybody here familiar with Don Quixote by Miguel Cervantes? It’s classic book of Spanish literature. One of my favorites.

A particular favorite portion of the book has to do with windmills…

For me the moral theoretician and philosopher reminds me an awful like Don Quixote accompanied by Sancho.

They’re on a knight’s crusade confusing windmills for giants or in this case confusing what they perceive as evil or wrong with windmills. In this case the windmills are an allegory for the natural world along with all the behaviors exhibited from it as morality or ethics is a mental state of mind that wages a war against nature. A sort of knight’s quest led by fools who cannot see the world for it is but like Don Quixote are caught in a grand delusion of a crusade that has little to do with reality whatsoever.

For the moral theoretician and philosopher it is all about categorizing or chasing down imaginary phantoms that are not even there.