The Origin of Consciousness.

There are many theories explaining the origin of consciousness.
Here some of them.

  1. God has taken clay and has created man, and then has inhaled in it consciousness.
  2. 20 billions years ago all matter (all elementary particles,
    all quarks and their girlfriend antiquarks, all kinds of waves:
    electromagnetic, gravitational, muons….) – all was assembled in “singular point”.
    Then there was a Big Bang .
    Question: when was there consciousness?
    a) Before explosion,
    b) At the moment of explosion,
    c) After the explosion.
    It is more probable, that it existed after the explosion.
    Then there is a question: what particles (or waves) were carriers of consciousness?
    Mesons, muons, leptons, bosons (W+, W- , Z) ,quarks, …gluons field …… ets …?
    On this question the Big Bang theory does not give an answer.
    But can it be that consciousness was formed as a result of the interaction of all elementary particles, all waves, all fields?
    Then, on the one hand, the reason for the origin of the Big Bang is clear:
    everything was mixed, including consciousness, and when it is mixed
    then it is possible to construct all and everything.
    But on the other hand, it is not clear: why farmer John can think simply, clearly and logically.
  3. Ancient Indian Veda approve, that origination of consciousness is connected with the existence of spiritual, conscious particles – purusha .
  4. Modern physics affirms that the Quantum of light is a privileged particle as in one cases,
    it behave as a particle, and in other case, acts in a way which causes a wave.
    How is a particle capable of creating a wave?
    The behaviour of Light quanta (dualism ) is explained simply.
    A quantum of light has its own initial consciousness.
    This consciousness is not rigid, but develops.
    The development of consciousness goes “from vague wish up to a clear thought”.

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Question.
What inhale the Life in formulas and equations ?
What must be present in a body to make it alive ?
The answer.
Soul. Quantum of Light.

what?

The secret of theology hided in the anthropology.
/Leibniz/
But the secret of anthropology hided in the theory of light quanta.
Socratus.

conciousness was not formed at the begining of the universe thus there would be no central particle that acts as it’s medium. Conciousness is usualy defined as being self-aware (as in life) so you want to look at biology.

Don’t you think you went a little too far supernatural?
However, I wonder what is your religion (if you believe you have one).
Also by taking a look at your site I made a conclusion that you speak Russian. It’s interesting.

  1. Descartes said: “I think , therefore I am”
  2. When Zen/Tibetan Buddhist monks, trained in meditation,
    begin conscious awareness, the “I think not, therefore I am”
    How to understand, how to connect all these opinions.?
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    During the history of mankind not once they admitted that human wisdom dispose of two ways of perception,
    two types of consciousness that were often marked as rational and intuitive.
    In the West, the rational (logical, scientific) method of perception was valued very much.
    In the East, the opposite opinion was spread.
    There first was valued intuitive (unconscious, religious) method of perception.
    In ancient Greece, Socrates used to say:
    “I know that I know nothing”.
    That is a man must perceive a lot in order to know something.
    In ancient China, Lao-Tzu pronounced:
    “The best knowledge is not knowledge of what you know”.
    In religion of dzen it is said:
    “To study the Universe is to study oneself.
    To study oneself is to forget oneself.
    To forget oneself is to learn all the rest”.
    That is, if you want to know something, refuse knowledge.
    This is a strange declaration from the point of view of western thought.
    In the West, the expression of Decart confirmed:
    “I think, consequently I exist”.
    In the East, the other wisdom sounds:
    “A happy man is the one who possesses consciousness.
    But happier is the one who does not possess it".
    A strange logic.
    We know that one who possesses consciousness is happy
    because he can logically understand everything that happens.
    What happiness does a man possess who does not have consciousness?

Or, what if the brain simply evolved to exploit a resource that was already there?

Iacchus wrote:
Or, what if the brain simply evolved to exploit a resource that was already there?

Let’s assume, that age of a brain 100 years.
How the brain has information about events of 5000 years ago ?

In many ancient writings it was claimed: “A man, perceive yourself”.
It was appeal to a man “to perceive oneself” not on the physical or psychological level, but on the spiritual one.
But can a man perceive his spiritual essence?
In ancient Indian composition “Bhagavat-Gita” was said:
“You carry in yourself the Greatest friend whom you do not know.
Because God lives inside every man, but not everybody can find him”.
In Dzen-Buddhism it is said about the possibilities of a man
“to find Buddha in his nature”.
An Arabic poet Omar al-Khayyam, admirer of Sufism, wrote:
“What is your flash, Khayyam? Tent where for overnight’s stop,
As a wandering shah, the spirit made a stop”.
Ancient wise men said:
“perceive yourself and you will perceive the Universe”.
“At the top is like at the bottom”.
On what basis did they claim this?
Where from did the ancient wise men know that everything starts
from the Emptiness, from Vacuum?
Why did they claim that circle is a sacred figure?
Such exact perception and understanding of the world is connected only with the personal abilities of a man.
Ancient wise men perceived World through themselves, through their spiritual essence.
And they demanded the same from others.
Some people who survived from clinical death, claim that they saw their material body
and everything happening around as if from the side, that is at that moment they were not a material body.
Who were they?
Let us suppose that the feelings of the people after the clinical death are subjective.
Let us suppose that those expressions of the ancient wise men are also subjective.
And is it possible those subjective expressions to prove by the science?
Is it possible to find in physics experiments that would prove subjective confirmations and wisdom of the sages?

Descartes realized that he had thought, that he had consciousness, therefore he was able to consciously realize his own existence.

the Buddhist monk, however, has refined himself to the point of surpassing thought and actually enetering into consciousness. rather than realizing that consciousness was a part of him, as Descartes did, he actually became one with that essential consciousness, by surpassing thought. he got to the point where thought was no longer necessary and he could simply be. he had attained what he believed to be the highest state of existence. an existense that Descartes had never even dreamed of when he said “I think, therefore I am.”

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The man acts: 1) usually under logic program,
2) sometimes on intuition (unconsciousnessly).
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Brain of a man approximately consists of sixteen milliards neurons.
All of them form the system that manages human body.
That is why, it is of no wonder, that with the work of all the
sixteen milliards neutrons of brain, a man cannot catch a single impulse of
Electron, Quantum of light, his God:
(mass of electron is equal 10^-31 kg.,
charge of electron is equal 10^-19 k.)
Quantum of light, Spiritual particle, which had created us, turned out to be under control
of the material existence. However, the spiritual particle aspires to establish its supremacy
over material nature. And the possibilities to reign over material nature are limited.
The expansion of the possibilities of the development of spiritual particle is connected
with the creation of specific (vacuum) conditions. These conditions are reached
as a result of constant religious practice.
To perceive the universe, to perceive the spiritual essence, it is necessary
for the man to take possession of religious practice.
PRACTICE. THE GENERAL PRINCIPLES.
We pray the GOD and we do not realize that HE is inside us.
Each of us carries in him the SPIRITUAL PARTICLE
(QUANTUM OF LIGHT - AN ELECTRON).
But we do not realize that HE is inside us.
Behind the habitual forces of nature there is one force hidden - a spiritual one (h - e).
But ITS action is almost completely disguised with the other forces
(mechanical, electromagnetic, nuclear, chemical and others),
therefore it remains unnoticed in an ordinary processes.
But God never operates outside of natural principles.
There are the processes in which He reveals himself.
Therefore, His disclosing is a technical question.
How can we learn it?
For this purpose it is necessary to create the following effects in our computer-brain:
A). Nonlinear effect
B). Superconducting effect
C). Holographic effect
D). Vacuum effect.
Nobody, except us, can make this technical work.
Only we (by the constant, thin, internal practice) can create conditions for these effects.
This practice has called “a Religious practice”.
In this lies an essence of Religion - to establish the communication of a Human being with his Divine origin.


Our computer-brain works on a dualistic basis.
In a usual daily life all we do is done logically, under an influence of our feelings.
On the other hand, in a religious practice we learn to perceive and to operate:

  1. Without the participation of the sense organs.
  2. Without the participation of the logic mental processes.
    When these conditions will be created, then the opportunity to operate will be given
    to a QUANTUM OF LIGHT (AN ELECTRON), to OUR DIVINE ESSENCE.
    We will acquire new forces, new abilities.
    Once again.
    An electron’s mass is 10^-28gr . The size is 10^-13sm.
    A charge is 10^-19k .
    With these characteristics it is hard for IT to appear.
    Therefore it is clear, why we don’t know IT in our ordinary life.
    ITS cognition is achieved by a very hard, thin and laborious work.
    This work demands of a person to be devoted to it.

Consciousness has no origin; Consciousness is self-caused. Consciousness is awareness, and aware can be only that which has no beginning. Consciousness is self-sufficient, that is, only that which can assume the role of all its causes and effects in the chain of cause-effect relations can live and exist at all. Consciousness is always discerning what is external to itself. Consciousness is that “by” which you know you are, and thus beyond all gods and goddesses, because it is never the known. Whatever is known is object and changing, whereas, Consciousness alone is subject (the Unknown), the Unchanging. The known is the movement of the unknown, i.e. it is Consciousness (the Unknown) thinking, remembering, moving and contracting, observing, feeling, and understanding. Consciousness is the Force of Self-preservation, which continues indefinitely, for Consciousness is nothing else but the self-perpetuation of self-remembrance and the everlasting expansion of self-knowledge. Consciousness performs all the above functions never-endingly, in a circular motion. The movement of Consciousness is signified by the holy trinity. Consciousness arises, it maintains itself, and it subsides, only in order to arise again, and unceasingly repeat the same process all over again, forever.
This expansion can take place ignorantly, which is an evil way to self-express. Or, Consciousness can express itself knowingly, by understanding its own cause-effect relations, and laws of self-expression, which is good. In the first way, you will live according to the motto "the stronger survives and everyone dies.” The second way is the way of “sharing” and true communication, once Consciousness understands that there is no other. Only then can communication take place.

That’s the expression of Consciousness in a nutshell. What Consciousness itself is, no one can, nor will, ever know.

-I Am That By Which I Know I Am-

Nearly all quantu is capable of wave/particle duality.

During atomic reaction matter can release light.
We see matter and energy being able to “turn into each other” because they are simply constructs, all made of the same aether.

Vibrations of the aether, whether particle or wave, can each be called “consciousness” or become “consciousness”.

“God” “blowing” “consciousness” “into man” “whome he created from clay” is like saying the earth is flat.

  • Consciousness is not a gas.
  • “God” didn’t create humans.
  • “God” has no mouth and can’t “blow”.
  • Human body needs more minerals, fluids and protiens then clay has to offer.

Myths about “the great potter” making animals out of dust/clay are rubbish.

It was a hot summer day.
In the zoo, near the cage of gorilla the gapers gathered.
They laughed and threw bits of fruits and bread into the cage.
And gorilla was twirling round in the narrow cage, not finding enough room for itself.
Our eyes met and I saw agonizing pain in the eyes of gorilla.
Its eyes were human ones.
I gazed at it in astonishment.
Then I transferred my glance on the people.
They laughed and their eyes were brutal, soulless.
Silently I observed this picture.
Ones, having learned to walk on two feet and speak using human voice,
preserved the ferocious hatred.
The others, in the skin of an animal, already possess the human origin.
Links of one chain, of one evolutional civilization.

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Consciousness may be the irreducible elementary particle of reality. It can’t be decomposed or reduced into anything else, the scientific method of “reductionism” cannot be applied to the mind or consciousness.

The fact that there is a starting point that we automatically have in our mind before we even start thinking, and this is made up of logic-math-language-space-time means that we will never be able to analyze these concepts past a certain point from within our mind. We must get outside of our mind to study these basic assumptions and I imagine this could be done in the future by directly modifying our neural networks, by direct physical manipulation of our brain, by connecting the brain to chips and by trying all kinds of combinations between these manipulations. It is rather radical, but we are trying to see the outside of the box from within the box hence we must get outside the box.

It is like a computer that wants to understand its own register structure, the gate levels how it is organized by simply manipulating its own software. The only way the computer could see the basic assumptions, the hardware from which then its software is developed, is by getting outside of itself and being like us humans that can see and manipulate the hardware and can see exactly how all the millions of transistors are connected.

The computer example was just an idea. True that a computer could end up inventing and simulating all its registers and logic gates and figure itself out. Then if we invent all kinds of oddball systems to model the mind we may end up with a correct one without knowing it. Invention then is also discovery, so invent all you want. Anyways I am not being very precise, just expressing some random thoughts.

Going back to the idea pf physically modifying our own brains and neural circuits, the real problem is that to measure a modified mind and understand what is going on inside it you still have to use your own basic logic-space-time-language. So how can you measure it and understand it without using these starting points ? And then what if the modified mind uses another set of completely different assumptions and states that it can decode our mind according to its logic ? then whose logic is correct ? Which one is the standard and which one is measured ? then all becomes relative ? Very odd - paradoxical problems that may arise in the future if scientists would really be so risky as to try these things.

No clue as to the origin of conciousness. Often I imagined somewhere around star-fish (early central nervous system). The origin of eye-buds also might imply an interiority.

  1. Consciousness is real but nonphyslcal.
  2. Consciousness is connected to physical reality .
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    How to connect all these opinions.?

Another thing that is really odd is that everything is denotation, abstraction, indirection, outside of ourselves. Even our own memories seem to be outside of ourselves. Like why worship statues ? why worship memories and how are memories even real ? If we watch a movie or read a book or think anything we are always referencing abstract items, things that are external to ourselves, things we can’t really touch. Of course their reality is confirmed only by the consequences of pain and pleasure they can imply according to how we organize and adapt to thses abstractions, how we interact with reality.

Then heaven and hell is pure pain and pleasure, thus pure reality with no indirections anymore, no abstractions. Or is it simply that everything is a religion, everything is worship to abstractions be them god or economy ?