Pezer: “It’s telling that he doesn’t reach his usual level of mastery in explaining his Christianity.”
Well its only a fraction of the range of archetypes and it isn’t something one chooses to be or has a taste for, anyway. Like I said, people don’t act like a christian… they act and some of the ways they act are called christian. Now of course you could say to yourself “self, you despise Christianity so make an effort to be unchristian”, but then you would merely be deciding to not act in ways which you have learned to associate with christianity, rather than not be a christian… because there is no such thing to not be in the first place.
Nevermind, it’s tedius.
But no, I think just about any mythology has equal or better allegory than christianity. Was never impressed with christianity myself.
I didnt personally make you for one personally, I was working within Pezers definition.
I, me I think that Jesus if existed might have actually been black. It makes sense at least of the fact that I see in (some) black (American) Christians the most lofty type of Christians. Maybe it’s just because I like Martin Luther King and the pastor I met in a church, in Savannah Georgia. The night before, I had been emtpying a bottle of Vodka on a bench that I realized later was the one Forest Gump is sitting on yapping his tale. That got me in trouble with some of the locals behind the freeway. Whenever it’s got romance in it, it has me sold somewhat. I dont see it in the caucasian type. Caucasian romance is much more one of enslaving than of being enslaved.
(Don’t blame the messenger)
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That negro loftiness you see is an innocent kind of dumbness, actually. They have a slavish self awareness that makes them feel proud to suffer in the way that a person to dumb to understand that suffering sucks, suffers.
And yes, that is weird. It’s almost as if the negro race is designed to be hopeless, Christian idiots, they do it so well. Americanized negros. … not the ones in the jungle still practicing voodoo. Negroid pleasantries are as foreign to them as anyone else.
Never liked MLT. I always thought he was a flake.
MLK I meant.
Jakob, I can tell you haven’t "arrived’ in South America yet…
So let me kindly turn your attention to the gentle Samba artist, Cartola (who exemplifies real southern soul, rising in drops of dew, singing to the morning… not to be confused with some loud and sweaty southern Baptist of Louisiana).
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Jakobs interest in this southern negro religious culture exists only like a foreigners interest exists in a strange culture in general as a tourist attraction. If he were around it everyday rather than as just a tourist in southeast US, he’d think the culture was banal and obnoxious like everyone else.
I think jakob was probably deeply moved as a young Dutch lad when he heard MC Hammer for the first time in 2000 on a cassette tape. The impression that hip-hop made on his newly developing artistic mind would forever affect him.
Im afraid it was rap music that set the trend in jakob that would eventually develop into such appraisal for the southern Christian negro. The commodification of the negro meme for a European student of American history and culture. Thats what this is.
Science’s best guess.
This is a complete no brainer.
But I think that this:
Is as stupid as this:
Oh I know. It’s not even certain this dude existed… or that if he existed he wasn’t just some ordinary dude around which a narrative and myth developed. What was that line in the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy? All this over some guy who was nailed to a tree four thousand years ago.
A dedicated team of scientists have worked tirelessly and reconstructed black Jesus’ likeness from source material found on ILP and the interwebs.
The following picture is the result of deep genetic analysis and the tracing of mimetic lineages throughout the known written history of man.
As you all can see, they have chosen to portray him in one of his likely typical mesmerising poses where he is bringing his fellow men the light and value of his teachings.
six thousand years ago?
Look man, its not like I got it marked on my frickin’ calender.
This thread is not as serious as it used to be.
May I remind all the people who are making jokes and laughing about these words from Gandhi -
First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.
Of course sometimes the reverse could also be true -
First you win,
then they fight you,
then they laugh at you,
then they ignore you.
Fascinating.
I know a guy who had this as his catchphrase and he is famous for his pointy ears as well and he is also a…
Ah you get the idea…
Did Spock excel at being rational and logical?.
I don’t know actually, was he all that more rational than the rest?
Maybe, but what he was definitely better at, than the rest, was making rationality and logic into his shtick.
He knew how to create and maintain this image of being Mr. Logic and selling it to the rest of the crew (or the screenwriters to the audience).
This was achieved by catchphrases and his autistic approach to emotions. If he would not have had this emotional autism element then he would not have been Mr. Logic.
How can others see your value if you don’t hit them over the head with it repeatedly? - You gotta make it into a shtick!
That way you rise in importance in the eyes of others - your social laddering.
It’s a pyramid scheme of and for narcissists.
Brilliant!
Hey, I didn’t even mention value ontology.
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Jake,
About this…
Jake, I actually thought that your video was going to be about the nature of the soul from your point of you. Maybe it was in a roundabout way which I just didn’t get. I can’t say that I understand what your video is about. Was this based on a dream? Do you believe in reincarnation – do you think that these moments actually existed?
Is this something which you composed – addressing someone in history?
I had the impression that I was listening to and watching a centaur during the video…Chiron come down to visit us? If only… 
Can you explain the video to me please.
Only if you can explain a flower.
Yes, I have no influence over you. Clearly.
No man, you have no influence over me!
You hear me!!?
I am free!!!
I am so solipsistic free, if there is a piece of rock in my path, I’m not influenced by it and step over it like a slave, No, I march straight on and tumble over it and fall like the master, the uberman, that I am!
Of course, i gotta look cool while I’m tumbling, do it like in the movies.
Either make it look like I’m in an action-movie and make a dive roll, or, if my back is still hurting from the last roll then I gotta go with the comedy routine or drama.
Damn, I should keep my reply to you short and snappy, like a pro, like you.
The fewer words I use the better I show (off) that I am not impressed by what you have to say - Clearly. I am then way above it all.
I have to tell you Jakob, I am so low in social status, I could watch bees and wasps congregating at water fountains for more than an hour at a time, watch how they go about it. But I do it all wrong because as we all know attention is to be reserved for those higher in status. That’s the main function of attention - social glue for narcissists. That’s like modern etiquette 101. See how I do it all wrong again and drone on.
On a different note (not really)
I want to go back to this -
Why do people laugh about somebody?
In the Gandhi example they laugh to find release from tension.
The laughter is inducing a relaxation of their nervous system.
They seek relaxation and find it in laughter although the external factors which induced the tension, the threat, is still present.
In the reversal I made, the laughter follows the relaxation of the nervous system.
They have won the fight, the threat or fear of the unknown is gone, the nervous system relaxes, the laughter is induced by this relaxation.
The Jakob is now better understood, not as mysterious anymore, the fog machine got in a stutter, the curtain is being pulled, you get the idea…
Gotta create a new shroud now.