Magic is an idea of modern science. It has no home other than in science, athesim, and entertainment. Similarly, superstition is an idea of science and atheism. No-one else gives the idea of superstition any credence.
Philosophers and mystics have no interest in magic or superstition except to examine their role as make-shift props in inter-cultural conflict, conflicts such as that between atheists and creationists.
And there’s a warning here for the philosopher. If a philosopher finds himself arguing against the superstition of other races and cultural practices and ideas, then he is not coming from a philosophical position, but from a conflict-laden scientism.
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“Magic” can be traced back to old Persian root, via Latin and Ancient Greek. People were persecuted for centuries for practicing magic. Not by scientists or atheists.
Many religions (certainly the Abrahamic ones) had centuries of experience condemning other religions as superstitions before science had anything to say.
Including your views on the cultural practice of science and its animisms, of course.
“Magic” is a term used by scientists and scientists in religions (scientists were in religious institutions) to describe certain activities and in that use is a term that is not used or practised by anyone else.
i’m not into any conventional magical system (yet) but the experience, itself, is more than enough proof of it being “real” (intense shit. sober or with just weed if you can believe it). by definition magic is anything consciously done and magical schools seek to consciously control the internal body, mind, etc
i just picked up high magic(something. it had high magic in the title) and it talks about invocation. i realized i’ve been doing this and i realized how stupid the book made it seem with it’s gods [-o< . basically, when i join an order, (OTO i think) instead of using gods i’ll name them by what they are, psycholgoical archtypes. it seems like people into magic think that they are gods they are messing with and fail to realize who has the real power. themselves. they are the ones that make the “gods” come, make the “gods” do things, they do everything and everything is dependant on how they do it and yet they give the gods all the credit. they need to realize that these “gods” are really the subconscious
also, guise. guise, this is productive hedonism. realizing experience is everything and seeking to…fuck with it.for fun!
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“Magic” can be traced back to old Persian root, via Latin and Ancient Greek. People were persecuted for centuries for practicing magic. Not by scientists or atheists.
Many religions (certainly the Abrahamic ones) had centuries of experience condemning other religions as superstitions before science had anything to say.
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in this modern day scientists (thus athiests) is what is rellevant. and they are the ones “persecuting” magic
in this modern day scientists (thus athiests) is what is rellevant. and they are the ones “persecuting” magic
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Science, Christinaity and atheism present an idea of magic that is only appropriate to modern Halloween and stage magic.
I agree with the fact that there are superstitions in science culture. The amazing thing is that superstition is science’s creation alone.
I noticed that you are enslaved by the idea.
Your “Psychological archetypes” looks like a sanitised, uninformed, christianized version of experience, in this case the immediacy of the experience of gods.
People have always made a distinction between the spiritual and the mundane, I’d say they’ve never been combined to be a single reality. Magic is not a term invented by modern science, but it’s a concept used for millenia to describe THE UNKNOWN. It’s a word that has been invented to replace “I don’t know”, just like god.
Back in the days when people didn’t know much about anything they could only speculate why some strange event took place. The smarter ones who realized its no use to create theories without much evidence on such insignificant things anyway left those matters be, and the people who couldn’t stop making outlandish explanations were labeled superstitious.
Magic is a concept invented by the ignorant themselves and superstitious was invented by rational people to describe the irrational. No need for science or atheism.
Your “Psychological archetypes” looks like a sanitised, uninformed, christianized version of experience, in this case the immediacy of the experience of gods.[/quote]
you must be kind of stupid fuck…i’ve never heard of a christian using psychology. there are no gods
Science created superstition. There is no superstition outside of science. Superstition is a universal straw man, a conceptual inadequacy, created as a tool of mockery.
Superstition was a proto-religion and magic was the “enhanced” version of the same. Both were and still are, a metaphysical explanation of the unknown. Neither has anything to do with science, rather, the opposite.
I have no idea where you are coming from, but your claims are poorly constructed. Try again, only fill in some of the blanks.
