there is a problem believing in heaven…truly believing in heaven…i dont personally believe in heaven or hell…
your behavior would then be directed at getting into heaven and/or waiting for this thing…
then you probably are not living in certain ways that might help you and others to have a pleasurable life
here on earth…as much as possible
turtle-----what about believing in hell…
Nietzsche has his Zarathustra say that he wished all those who long for a hereafter heaven would simply go there and leave the business of this world to those who care about it.
Pie in the sky, by and by? No way. Eternity is here and now.