I quit everything now writes: “I don’t believe in any god anymore…”
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V writes:
This is a classic example of the path people take when they become a reactionary atheist. Such atheism is based in hate, distrust, vengeance, pain and despair. Not a good foundation to base atheism on if you plan to be an atheist.
First let me offer my compassion for the pain that ‘I quit everything now’ has suffered. Unfortunately my compassion offers little in the area of a real and lasting healing from that pain. Such a recovery has to come from within us. The sooner you can release the control and expectations ‘I quit everything now’, the sooner you can let go of the pain.
See:
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Realize ‘I quit everything now’ that there are many flavors of atheists…natural atheists, personal atheists, explicit atheists, implicit atheists weak atheists, strong atheists, discovery atheists, reactionary atheists, indoctrinated atheists and of course the bad ass atheists with attitude aka BAAWA varieties.
But the defining characteristic that leads an atheist to peace is whether they are a ‘spiritual and truth based atheist’ or 'defiance ego based atheist.
See my opening post at"
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If you wish to be an atheist, then be a ‘strong atheist’ one that can express themselves in detail as to why there in so God ‘I quit everything now’ .
If I was an atheist, I’d be in the strong atheist classification, since I can expound on such thoughts at lengths and can back them up with facts and reason
A ‘weak atheist’ on the other hand uses the reason they don’t believe in God is the same reason they don’t believe in the Easter bunny or leprechauns for example. Or in your case, your ego gets bruised and you get mad at God.
In any case, many theists think God is Santa Claus and must come through with their demands, just as we did as greedy children making up a long, impossible list for Santa to fill. They think it is Christmas day every day of the year! Well, if God does exist God does not work in that fashion where the egotistic demands of billions of people get granted every millisecond of the day and night.
Can you imagine if everyone’s prayers were answered according to our self centered and conflicting demands? Everyone would be billionaires, some would sprout wings and fly or grow gills and live underwater and no one would grow old.
Death…no one would ever die…except ones “enemies” that the misguided might prayer for to die. Furthermore we would be the Gods as the real God would not know better than us. This is not how the world and spiritual laws work ‘I quit everything now’ .
In the bible it reminds us that God’s way is not man’s way, and we can all be very grateful for that, as we can see what has happened when demigods take power on earth.
Many women say they can’t understand men, just as many men say they can’t understand women. Well, to further distill this we can say that God’s way is not man’s way and man’s way is not woman’s way.
Every creature has it’s way and when you can come to peace with this you will have an easier time digesting enlightenment. To start on your peace journey look for insight into the other creatures suffering and problems ‘I quit everything now’ .
This technique comes from my Buddhist practice. This is easier to do with men or women than with God. But it can still be done non the same with your higher power, as I mentioned above with the impossibility of satisfying all the demands of a selfish and conflicting world.
I would caution you to not become an atheist and only go so far as being a freethinking agnostic.
The reason for this recommendation is this. I’ve been around thousands of atheists over the last 10 years and I must say that on average, the atheist is the sickest, most hate filled haggard shell of a human I’ve ever come across…and I’ve been on over 300 forums over the last decade to support my statement ‘I quit everything now’ .
If you follow my posts you know I only speak the truth. You may not like to hear the truth, but that still does not change the truth into fiction.
So, I offer this recommendation to you in the hopes that despite your loss of faith in God, you do not become a hate filled atheist and in the process know all their is about everything under the sun ‘I quit everything now’ .
See - The Self Deified Atheist
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See - What the hell would we need “spiritual values” for when we can have real values?
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See - The Toxic Atheist
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My own journey leaving theism was a long one and had nothing to do with the reactionary brand of atheism driving me away from God.
What did drive me away was from an earnest and hard pressed search to get closer to God.
I was Catholic for 50 years and am now a freethinking agnostic. I don’t think there is a God, but I may be wrong. I am about 85% atheistic in my views.
It all started for me many years ago when an ex-Krishna / Wicca massage lady told me that Jesus was not born on December 25 and the Christians adopted that day to steal it away from the pagans holiday. Then she told be it was the same with Halloween.
A few years later I found out that the gospels were not written by the apostles or men that even knew Jesus.
Then I came across Freke’s book ‘The Jesus Mysteries.’ I started to study the beginnings of Christianity and how the Nicene council was nothing more than a political convention to find out who had the best spin on Jesus.
I wrote to a few professors such Bart D. Ehrman and others asking about The Jesus Mysteries. Their reply was it wasn’t worth reading or just nonsense.
Relieved that such talk was hogwash, I drifted back to religion for some time until the next crack showed up at my door.
I was on a Buddhist forum eSangha (where I was eventually banned) and the discussion turned to Jesus. Someone mentioned the ‘Jesus Never Existed’ website and then this forum came about so I joined.
Then talked with an ex-rabbi dizax that guided me into more detailed biblical study.
Meeting that ex-rabbi was a major turning point in my life of religious beliefs, as I had never bothered to ‘really’ study what the foundation of monotheism was based on. I only bought the religious hype and did not know the facts.
Then one day read in the news that the church abolishes limbo. This did not go well with the concept of the truth is that which does not change.
Then watched some shows on the History Channel about religion that gave me more insight by exposing the lies.
I talked with some Christian members at the forums.
Sometimes their argument’s were really insane. One Christian argued that the ancient coal and fossils were planted by the devil to trick us so we would not believe in God and go to hell.
Other were smarter and less extreme. One in particular was most knowledgeable. He said the bible was the perfect word of God EXCEPT the creation story which he viewed as myth.
Well, if we start to pick and choose what is real or lies in the bible…where does it end?
I started to talk with many atheists and listened to their stories. All good questions they proposed and the theists could never begin to answer them.
I started listening to some of Ken Humphrey’s programs:
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As I continued to study religion and the bible in particular, I could see very clearly now that all religion is man made and flavored with the ego’s of men.
And after about 7 years of developing cracks in my Catholic foundations, I decided that I would make a change in my way of life, sided on the path of truth and left the church evolving into a truth based Agnostic Freethinker.
I still use many tools from spiritual as well as religious sources.
If the tool can be tested for truth and does not require faith, then I make use of it if it promotes inner peace. (I should say it does take ‘faith to test’ sometimes, but once you start the test, the need for faith evaporates.)
See True Freethinking
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Also See: Peace tools for atheists, agnostics and theists
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Good luck with finding peace with this topic ‘I quit everything now’
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
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