The Reckoning

The MSM will lie for them through Summer but that’s when the big losses will occur.

The invisible enemy [virus] or the economy is the lynch pin, they’ll use either one and quite possibly a combination of both simultaneously. :sunglasses:

You see, that’s how they’re going to lockdown the entire nation or world permanently. :laughing: They have plans and need to reach their overall 2030 target. [Deadline] They have nine more years or less to implement their international plans, time is running out, hence why 2020 was their mad rush.

They’re fucked because the economy is set to implode. When it does, they stand to lose the House, Senate, and next Presidency.

In 4 years, Republicans could very well win the entire thing back, and then exact their toll onto these Commucrats.

The economy is the only thing everything together right now, and it’s going to collapse soon.

No, no, and no. They plan on destroying the United States and the dollar, it’s all a part of their plan, it’s quite intentional. This nation is the only thing standing in the way of world governance and an economic reset for the far east. Sure, their plan is going to backfire tremendously especially when you understand the domestic resistance here, but it still falls into one of their main objectives.

There will never be a republican presidency for the foreseeable future, their goal is to transform the United States into a democratic single political party state forever. The republican political party is dead and never coming back, what’s left of it they will now control. [It has already been compromised.] Sorry, I know it’s the kind of answer you don’t want to hear.

Well, I was more on urwrong’s side… But apparently, he refuses READ what people actually say, preferring to engage in hyperbole (which what WWIII does as well )… They both share a similar flair for being melodramatic.

Do you consider both Trump and Hillary to be effeminate masters?

Could a tyrant be useful in accelerating the barbarian’s craving for the wilderness?

If the Holocene doesn’t have time to wait for this transformation, then what will “have to do” as the saying goes?

I’m reminded of this famous passage from Twilight of the Idols… Of course, Caesar can’t be considered an effeminate master.

You are neither beyond good and evil nor a Batman ( :laughing: ), but just ridiculous, insane and as dreamy as the few of your kind.

Note to the sane: For him philosophy is only strategy, but he only shows again and again that he is the worst strategist and has to learn a lot, but can’t (you can see that quite clearly).

He is always looking for allies, so that they support him and he can screw them afterwards. This has nothing at all to do with politics, e.g. right or left, but only with his extreme delusion that forces him to want to be like a Superman (or Batman :laughing: ), a Godwannabe. It really doesn’t get any more ridiculous than this.

He will never grow up. Poor guy.

And Zeroeth will be the first to welcome the completed 2030 target. He hates humans. He is an insane cretin, megalomaniac and persecution maniac.

I’ll keep all replies in the Reckoning thread now… I was thinking the “WW_III_ANGRY” thread was going to become the main thread for all things WWIII.

If we’re going by the democrat’s extremely low threshold for what qualifies as a threat, then it is really more of a threat (If Trump had used similar language the left would be even more hysterical than they are now)… Of course a threat coming from the President is greater if it’s actually a threat…But what’s it say about a population when nearly anything can be read into as a threat, can be sensed as a threat… The point is moot because neither were actually threats.

WWIII’s second threat was an actual threat in the way most normal people understand what constitutes a threat… despite being a real threat, it was nevertheless “full of sound and fury,/ Signifying nothing.” …To which urwrong responded hysterically as if he was in mortal danger, finding in the commotion his vindication at long last! lol

Anyways, IF all that were true (that he was implicitly inciting people to violence) then his real failure was not inciting truly dangerous people ( i.e. not laughing stocks like Proud Boys). In actuality, his real failure was handing the reigns back to the corporo-fascism (if that can be considered a failure… i.e. does corporo-fascism help accelerate things better than angry mob fascism ?). Also, you can just as easily make the argument that democrats have been implicitly inciting their base to violence and covering up for it. All this “violence” has been nothing more than street theater.

What seems to be happening is both sides trying to rage-bait the other into doing something stupid (while never actually doing anything truly paradigm shifting)…Meanwhile the last man gains a more permanent foothold in the earth, and the herd-animalization continues unabated despite all this hysterical clamor around “fascism” and “communism” and “tyrants.”

At this point, the word “insurrection” begins to lose its meaning. It’s hard to call something an “insurrection” when the police literally let you in like you’re on a high school field trip…and then proceed to shoot the shit with you as you wander aimlessly around…Spinning the event as some paradigm shifting “terrorist” attack does further the agenda of Hillary’s corporo-fascism though.

I also feel like all this talk of “terrorism” is giving terror a bad name… I mean, he is a beloved son of Ares.

I assume you mean the crazed woman? Anyways, urwong has proved to be quite fanatical… But I still find WWIII repulsive.

The mental hula hoops are amusing at least.

Yep, it’s “all my fault”. You got me. I’m the one threatening others with violence. I’m the desperate one.

Here’s the thing. These far-left Terrorists, and they are, are so desperate for Scapegoats, because they are the Victimizers.

They can no longer hold onto their precious “Victim Status”. The Left are not the Victims. They are the perpetrators, the criminals, the thugs, the rioters, the looters, the domestic terrorists, the traitors to this country.

They need threats of violence, because they have no Philosophy, no reasonable recourse. They have nothing left ideologically. They have lost the war of ideas.

Furthermore, those who support them, like perpetualburn, are hypocrites.

Imagine throwing your lot in with these types. Perpetualburn defends death threats and threats of violence, but what does he do, like a typical leftist?

Not his fault, it’s my fault.

Yep, got it, predictable.

Yikes, imagine defending your leftist brethren and then they show you just how honest they are.

perpetual: “No, he wasn’t making death threats!”
WWIII: “Yes I was”
perpetual: “This is all urwrong’s fault!

Typical of your kind.

Just admit you were wrong perpetual. Say it with me, “I was wrong”.

Now the interesting thing here, is how open and honest everybody is being.

I appreciate that. I appreciate the honesty. See, when you don’t need to hide what you think and feel, you can see where everybody here really stands.


All defended this domestic terrorism. And that’s what it is. It’s the Left who started this mess, it’s the Left who continue it, it’s the Left who started the violence.

These are actual-Nazis. They are so busy accusing everybody else of Nazis, that when they got done with their rage, it becomes too obvious who the Fascists are.

And yes, by the way, I am Vindicated.

You all proved me Right.

You need to stop watching Tucker Carlson kiddo, look up the term controlled opposition, that’s all that today’s republicans are. They’re fluff, spineless, or lame duck conservatives. The mainstream media is not your friend, even today’s so called conservative mainstream media, none of it can be trusted. :wink: Trust no-one other than family and a small group of close friends, that’s where we’re at now.

I was right.

Would is the operative word. “I would love to put a bullet in your head but I am restrained by law, or I’m just too chickenshit to do so” are possible interpretations… That technically is not a direct threat.

However, like I already addressed if you bothered to read thoroughly enough, this is an actual threat that can’t be misinterpreted:

Even the actual second threat isn’t “domestic terrorism.” It’s just a threat from one dude to another…the question is…do you actually feel threatened? Because it doesn’t seem like you do. It seems like you’re just trolling… If you are truly upset about all the lying and cheating surrounding the election (and it seems like you are or were) then don’t diminish your message with hysterical over-reactions and getting into a childish back and forth over who the real Nazi is.

Maybe relatively speaking, but I consider Trump to be much closer to the new barbarians than Hillary.


Certainly: see GM I 11—and compare the end of BGE 260: love as a passion was a kind of wilderness, a welcome vacation from the strict discipline of everyday courtly life!


Text and translation:


Well, I have a moderate and an extreme political philosophy. The moderate one is that the small steps of failing and thereby succeeding democracy will have to do for the time being.

“We do not measure with such care:
Woman in thousand steps is there.
But howsoe’er she hasten may,
Man in one leap has cleared the way.”
(Goethe, Faust, I, 3982-85.)

My aim, of course, is to have my extreme political philosophy be carried out as soon as possible: my “panhuman pleistocaust”, that is to say the eco-friendly disposal of most of mankind.


Well, yes and no: see BGE 200. I’m reminded:

“‘Have your own way,’ [Sulla] said, ‘but beware of this young man. He wears his belt like a girl, but there is more than one Marius in his heart.’” (Rex Warner, The Young Caesar.)


Right, but I in turn am reminded of the following passage, which I already happened to look up earlier today.

“We can easily imagine that a historian living in a totalitarian country, a generally respected and unsuspected member of the only party in existence, might be led by his investigations to doubt the soundness of the government-sponsored interpretation of the history of religion. Nobody would prevent him from publishing a passionate attack on what he would call the liberal view. He would of course have to state the liberal view before attacking it; he would make that statement in the quiet, unspectacular and somewhat boring manner which would seem to be but natural; he would use many technical terms, give many quotations and attach undue importance to insignificant details; he would seem to forget the holy war of mankind in the petty squabbles of pedants. Only when he reached the core of the argument would he write three or four sentences in that terse and lively style which is apt to arrest the attention of young men who love to think. That central passage would state the case of the adversaries more clearly, compellingly and mercilessly than it had ever been stated in the heyday of liberalism, for he would silently drop all the foolish excrescences of the liberal creed which were allowed to grow up during the time when liberalism had succeeded and therefore was approaching dormancy. His reasonable young reader would for the first time catch a glimpse of the forbidden fruit. The attack, the bulk of the work, would consist of virulent expansions of the most virulent utterances in the holy book or books of the ruling party. The intelligent young man who, being young, had until then been somehow attracted by those immoderate utterances, would now be merely disgusted and, after having tasted the forbidden fruit, even bored by them.” (Strauss, Persecution and the Art of Writing, pp. 24-25, emphasis mine.)

Now ironically, the reason for this art of writing, the threat of persecution, is an example of the passage you quote. Compare:

“[A]ll the world bewails today the evil situation of the philosopher in earlier times, hemmed in between the stake, bad conscience, and the arrogant wisdom of the Church Fathers: the truth, however, is that precisely this was a much more favorable condition for the education of a powerful, comprehensive, cunning and audaciously daring spirituality than the conditions of life at present. […] But things are so much the worse even for superior artists: for are they not, almost all of them, perishing from a lack of inner discipline? They are no longer tyrannized over from without by a church’s tables of absolute values or those of a court; thus they also no longer learn to develop their ‘inner tyrants’, their will. And what is true of artists is true in a higher and more fateful sense of philosophers.” (WP 464.)

But lastly, consider this:

“The wisdom of the Greeks has either no fruit at all or else a pernicious fruit, viz., the doctrine of the eternity of the world—therefore it is extremely dangerous—; but it has blossoms (and evidently beautiful ones)—therefore it is extremely tempting.” (Strauss, Persecution and the Art of Writing, p109n39.)

Never forget that the core value of Western civilisation is the liberal leap to wisdom, philosophy!

Yep, it’s all my fault, got it.

Attack me, not the one issuing death threats, threats of violence. What a peach.

I’m pissed off because these domestic terrorists need to be stopped, AND, this philosophy forum is now invalidated. He, you, and the rest of the posse reduced to the lowest level.

When you need violence to back your ideas, then you have lost the plot. You defending WWIII right here, and attacking me, proves all I need to know about you.

People don’t know what fascism is.
They think like any kind of nationalism is fascism.
Civic nationalism, economic nationalism…
…protectionism, protecting your borders, your economy…
…asking others to defend themselves or pay for their defense, unilateralism…

DJT is the 1st president since Jimmy Carter not to start a new war.
Biden is much more likely to.
Obama, together with Biden and the Clintons started many new wars.
And domestically, on the economy and society, Trump didn’t govern much differently than a conventional republican, it was his foreign policy and policy regarding foreigners, noncitizens, that set him apart a bit.

Research the difference between paleoconservatism, neoconservatism and fascism.
Paleoconservatism is not fascism, and that’s what Trump did, took the country in a more paleoconservative direction, as opposed to a neoconservative.
Conservatives were sick of neoconservatism, they wanted to get back to their paleoconservative roots in some ways, the conservatism you had from America’s beginning to the mid 20th century, back to the constitution, small government, America minding its own business, not trying to Americanize the world or fight Israel’s battles, a bit more sociocultural conservatism, less sociocultural progressivism/hyper-politically correct.

Neocons slowly took over the republican party during the latter half of the 20th century, and they had a tremendous impact on the democratic party too.
By Bush W’s administration, paleocons had been completely purged from the republican party, and Obama’s admin differed little from Bush’s admin.
The MSM, which pushes a neocon agenda, has bamboozled like a 3rd of Americans into equating any other form of conservatism with fascism.
The reality is, neoconservatism is far closer to fascism than paleoconservatism, but it’s a globalist fascism.
As long as a 3rd of America equates paleoconservatism with fascism, there’ll never be peace.
America won’t give up those values anytime soon, at the very least not for the foreseeable future, not without a fight.

Some paleocons, and libertarians, like Rand Paul, would like to get rid of crony capitalism too, get rid of corporatism, and federalize the private ‘federal reserve’, the banksters and oligopolists wouldn’t like that.
Part of the reason why they have to demonize paleocons and libertarians.
The funny thing is, if Sanders or Tulsi had’ve gotten in there, and stuck to their guns, brought troops home, ended regime change wars and redistributed more wealth from the top tier to the bottom tiers, the MSM would’ve demonized them too, America would be on the lookout for ‘commies’ instead of ‘fascists’.

Libertarians and paleo conservatives are just a bunch of upper middle class bourgeois or wealthy people, they’re not going to do anything other than vent their frustrations because they have too much to lose, they’re always concerned about protecting their financial bottom line because they’re unable to see the bigger picture of things, I don’t really care for them either because of their utter disregard for us working poor.

These republican conservatives can be imbeciles at times, what they can’t see is that us national fascists are the only friends they have at the moment, it’s not the nazis or fascists who are their enemies, it’s the Marxist communists imbeciles!

There’s nothing more stupid, hopeless, or useless than that of a modern neoconservative, but it looks like we fascists will have to show them the light all over again. It’s funny, the modern neoconservative cries out nazi or fascist, yet when the time comes it will be us fascists that will end up saving them from the communist hordes. When that happens they will fall in line kicking, protesting, or screaming of course, but fall in line they will eventually.

Neoliberals and neoconservatives are centrists in an era where political centrism is nonexistent, your real choice and options is either national fascism or international communism, choose wisely. :sunglasses:

There will be a time in the future these ‘nazi’ hating neoconservatives will be paying for a black reparations income tax.

The communists will be like, “Pay up bigots or racists!”, and us national fascists will smirk and grin looking at the neoconservatives saying, “We told you this would happen!” That will be an amusing or very funny day for neoconservatives and national fascists alike, by then neoconservatives won’t even care who is nazi, who isn’t. The absurd charade or facade will be dropped, they’ll join our collective ranks against the communists immediately.

Well, I don’t see eye to eye with them on everything, but I’d rather have national capitalists (paleocons) or global capitalists (libertarians) running things than global corporatists (neocons).
A lot of people are familiar with libertarians and neocons but not with paleocons.
Paleocons and libertarians are similar, in that they’re both constitutionalists (unlike neocons with their patriot act, which undermines the constitution), capitalists and noninterventionists, where they differ is paleocons are nationalists, protectionists, in favor of immigration reduction, and moderately socioculturally conservative, whereas libertarians are globalists and socioculturally libertarian, not conservative, nor progressive.
I agree with paleocons on most things, the main thing I disagree with them on is the economy.
Still, I agree with them a hell of a lot more than with neocons, and paleocons’ hardline stance on the economy could be balanced by the left, just as it was in the mid 20th century.

Well, national fascists would be preferable to the international fascists we have now, altho I’m not a national fascist.

Yea, the neocons at the top are antichristian Zionists, international fascists bordering on Marxists, the ones at the bottom really have no idea what they’re supporting, they’re fools, but some are coming to their senses, hence a resurgence of paleoconservatism and populism.

The neoconservatives and neoprogressives at the top aren’t really centrists, they will keep pushing till the west, and the rest, looks more like China does today.